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Title: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on January 21, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
So I walk into my favorite beer store yesterday evening to try some new stuff, and lo and behold a bottle of Pliny the Elder is sitting there. I pick it up immediately but as soon as I do the owner comes over and says, "I'm sorry but it's my private collection, I just left it here temporarily."

OH the HUMANITY! But at least I got to hold a bottle.*

*Yes, this is silly because it's overhyped all the time, but still I'd love to try some.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: alikocho on January 21, 2011, 12:44:29 PM
Sorry that happened  >:(

It is a great beer, and really worth trying as an archetype of the IIPA.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 21, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
You know you could make something that tastes pretty close.
http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/1Pliny%20the%20Elder%20clone%20PDF.pdf
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: tumarkin on January 21, 2011, 01:22:29 PM
if it's your favorite beer store, I'm assuming you're in there regularly & know the owner. if so, you should have said - ok, I understand.... you can have it back, but you have to share it with me.  :D

most of us love to share great beer (ours or commercial) with like-minded friends, he very well might have said yes.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on January 21, 2011, 02:06:09 PM
You know you could make something that tastes pretty close.
http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/1Pliny%20the%20Elder%20clone%20PDF.pdf

That's the plan, eventually, but the lag time between brewing and drinking is SO HIGH! Instant gratification fail.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on January 21, 2011, 02:07:01 PM
if it's your favorite beer store, I'm assuming you're in there regularly & know the owner. if so, you should have said - ok, I understand.... you can have it back, but you have to share it with me.  :D

most of us love to share great beer (ours or commercial) with like-minded friends, he very well might have said yes.

I got the impression that he had a bunch of friends he had already promised to share it with. Plus he hooked me up with a freaking awesome french IIPA, so I was satisfied.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: blatz on January 21, 2011, 02:08:39 PM
You know you could make something that tastes pretty close.
http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/1Pliny%20the%20Elder%20clone%20PDF.pdf

That's the plan, eventually, but the lag time between brewing and drinking is SO HIGH! Instant gratification fail.


but that is only for the first pint  ;)
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: deepsouth on January 21, 2011, 03:05:21 PM
@ paul blatz....  haven't brewed that big red ale yet, but i'm sending you some when i do.



and pliny is a great beer, recommended to be drank very fresh.  i wonder how long he plans on collecting it? 
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on January 21, 2011, 04:06:11 PM
@ paul blatz....  haven't brewed that big red ale yet, but i'm sending you some when i do.



and pliny is a great beer, recommended to be drank very fresh.  i wonder how long he plans on collecting it? 

It was for this weekend. By being the best beer shop owner in Paris it means he gets a lot of business from ex-pats who travel, apparently people get him beer gifts when they go to the states. That's the life.

Anybody wanna come to Paris? You can stay at our guest room for free (it's across from a chateau/modern art museum) if you bring me some bottles from Russian River.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: rbclay on January 21, 2011, 07:29:03 PM
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he hooked me up with a freaking awesome french IIPA

Sorry, is this a joke? I'm sure it isn't, it just struck me funny. Didn't know Frenchies were getting known for their beers. Kind of like hearing "I just had this wonderful Canadian pineapple!"

Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: punatic on January 24, 2011, 10:38:05 AM

Sorry, is this a joke? I'm sure it isn't, it just struck me funny. Didn't know Frenchies were getting known for their beers. Kind of like hearing "I just had this wonderful Canadian pineapple!"


Are you saying they don't grow pineapples in Canada?!  Wow, I figured you can grow them anywhere.  Da buggahs are EVERYWHERE around here.  They are weeds.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on January 24, 2011, 12:07:55 PM
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he hooked me up with a freaking awesome french IIPA

Sorry, is this a joke? I'm sure it isn't, it just struck me funny. Didn't know Frenchies were getting known for their beers. Kind of like hearing "I just had this wonderful Canadian pineapple!"



Nope, no joke.

If there's one thing I've learned from living abroad it's that great beer can be found almost anywhere. Although I'd recommend against "banana beer." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_beer I've tried some, they carry it because apparently there's a lot of demand for it, but it's not really suited for my palate. Like an explosion of Isoamyl acetate on the tongue!

http://www.brasseriedesgarrigues.fr/index.htm
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: tschmidlin on January 24, 2011, 04:33:15 PM
If there's one thing I've learned from living abroad it's that great beer can be found almost anywhere. Although I'd recommend against "banana beer." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_beer I've tried some, they carry it because apparently there's a lot of demand for it, but it's not really suited for my palate. Like an explosion of Isoamyl acetate on the tongue!

http://www.brasseriedesgarrigues.fr/index.htm
They list Wells Banana Bread Beer as an example - I've had that, it's pretty good for a banana flavored beer.  I'd be surprised if it is actually an example of what they describe though, I'm pretty sure it is a malt based beer with banana added.  I wonder if I can find any of the other ones. . .
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: uthristy on January 24, 2011, 05:47:32 PM
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he hooked me up with a freaking awesome french IIPA

Sorry, is this a joke? I'm sure it isn't, it just struck me funny. Didn't know Frenchies were getting known for their beers. Kind of like hearing "I just had this wonderful Canadian pineapple!"



I've come across a few damn fine French beers while in the south of Belgium but never a IPA style beer, blonds,saisons,BDG

Brasserie Thiriez
Brasserie Duyck
Brasserie De Saint-Sylvestre
Les Brasseurs de Gayant
Brasserie Castelain à Bénifontaine
Brasserie La Choulette
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: rabid_dingo on January 24, 2011, 11:09:44 PM
@ paul blatz....  haven't brewed that big red ale yet, but i'm sending you some when i do.



and pliny is a great beer, recommended to be drank very fresh.  i wonder how long he plans on collecting it? 

It was for this weekend. By being the best beer shop owner in Paris it means he gets a lot of business from ex-pats who travel, apparently people get him beer gifts when they go to the states. That's the life.

Anybody wanna come to Paris? You can stay at our guest room for free (it's across from a chateau/modern art museum) if you bring me some bottles from Russian River.

I may take you up on that offer...Don't know when but when the mood strikes...  I've discoverd the ease of
going to Belgium for beer. France ain't too far away...
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on April 07, 2011, 09:24:09 AM
Update! Crackedkettle.com in the Netherlands had them and I got -TWO- along with 4 bottles of Bell's Hopslam. Shoudl be here this weekend! Hooray!
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: dbeechum on April 08, 2011, 03:39:09 PM
Well, now what am I going to pay you?
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on April 08, 2011, 03:50:05 PM
Well, now what am I going to pay you?

MOR PLINY PLEEZ

J/k. Anything interesting is fun.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: Beer Monger on April 08, 2011, 03:53:00 PM
We've been fortunate w/ Pliny around here lately (Seattle).

I've had it on tap twice and in the bottle once (well, 4 bottles worth) in just the past month or so.  Good stuff.  :) 
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: uthristy on April 09, 2011, 11:28:55 AM
Update! Crackedkettle.com in the Netherlands had them and I got -TWO- along with 4 bottles of Bell's Hopslam.

I hate to think what they cost, CrackedKettle is very expensive compared to the De Bierkoning.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on April 09, 2011, 11:51:03 AM
Update! Crackedkettle.com in the Netherlands had them and I got -TWO- along with 4 bottles of Bell's Hopslam.

I hate to think what they cost, CrackedKettle is very expensive compared to the De Bierkoning.

€16 per bottle, but the shipping is really reasonable. De Bierkoning, I've never heard of them, they seem interesting but they don't have online ordering and I can't open their spreadsheet with the beer inventory. I'll keep them in mind though.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: alikocho on April 09, 2011, 12:08:50 PM
Update! Crackedkettle.com in the Netherlands had them and I got -TWO- along with 4 bottles of Bell's Hopslam.

I hate to think what they cost, CrackedKettle is very expensive compared to the De Bierkoning.

€16 per bottle, but the shipping is really reasonable. De Bierkoning, I've never heard of them, they seem interesting but they don't have online ordering and I can't open their spreadsheet with the beer inventory. I'll keep them in mind though.

De Beer Konig are just of Spuistrasse. Out of Cafe Golem, turn left, walk up to the square, turn left. Much cheaper.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: phillamb168 on April 11, 2011, 09:08:43 AM
I'll check it out next time I go.

FWIW, I opened a bottle Saturday. I know I'll probably get lynched for this, but my first thoughts were, 'meh, I've had better.' And the bottle was fresh, too - bottled Feb 2011. I think I Hardcore You from Brew Dog/Mikkeller is my favorite as far as hop bombs go.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: Beer Monger on April 11, 2011, 01:19:45 PM
For those in the Seattle area.  Coopers Alehouse will have some on again sometime in the next few days.  They're currently into their IPA Fest (April 8-29), and they're doing it alphabetically (for the most part). 

Currently, theyre on "F" (Firestone Walker Double Jack was the last one they put on tap - and possibly Eel River). 

So check their facebook or twitter - they usually post each time they change out a keg (tag #IPAFest). 
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: hermsman on April 11, 2011, 01:47:32 PM
Don't pass on the Firestone DoubleJack. I think it is a great beer and I do prefer it to Pliny. I keep both in-stock at my house, But the Doublejack gets consumed quite often. ;D
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: Beer Monger on April 11, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
Don't pass on the Firestone DoubleJack. I think it is a great beer and I do prefer it to Pliny. I keep both in-stock at my house, But the Doublejack gets consumed quite often. ;D

Oh by NO means pass on Double Jack.  It is absolutely one of my favorite beers!  Lukcy you can keep it 'in stock' at your house.  We only get it sporadically (and it won't last 'stored' at my house!  lol) 

I was at Coopers yesterday when they tapped it.  They were gonna tap Eel River first (y'know, alphabetical), but I bugged 'em to skip ahead to Firestone.  Love that stuff.

I was just pointing out the Pliny, since that was the main focus of this thread.  I like both beers, but also think I enjoy DJ more than Pliny. 
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: tschmidlin on April 11, 2011, 06:08:19 PM
Don't pass on the Firestone DoubleJack. I think it is a great beer and I do prefer it to Pliny. I keep both in-stock at my house, But the Doublejack gets consumed quite often. ;D

Oh by NO means pass on Double Jack.  It is absolutely one of my favorite beers!  Lukcy you can keep it 'in stock' at your house.  We only get it sporadically (and it won't last 'stored' at my house!  lol) 

I was at Coopers yesterday when they tapped it.  They were gonna tap Eel River first (y'know, alphabetical), but I bugged 'em to skip ahead to Firestone.  Love that stuff.

I was just pointing out the Pliny, since that was the main focus of this thread.  I like both beers, but also think I enjoy DJ more than Pliny. 
Beer Monger, if you can get to Malt and Vine, they have Black Raven's Wisdom Seeker on tap as of Saturday - that beer easily rivals Pliny.  If they don't have it there, you might try Black Raven itself.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: Beer Monger on April 11, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
Don't pass on the Firestone DoubleJack. I think it is a great beer and I do prefer it to Pliny. I keep both in-stock at my house, But the Doublejack gets consumed quite often. ;D

Oh by NO means pass on Double Jack.  It is absolutely one of my favorite beers!  Lukcy you can keep it 'in stock' at your house.  We only get it sporadically (and it won't last 'stored' at my house!  lol) 

I was at Coopers yesterday when they tapped it.  They were gonna tap Eel River first (y'know, alphabetical), but I bugged 'em to skip ahead to Firestone.  Love that stuff.

I was just pointing out the Pliny, since that was the main focus of this thread.  I like both beers, but also think I enjoy DJ more than Pliny. 
Beer Monger, if you can get to Malt and Vine, they have Black Raven's Wisdom Seeker on tap as of Saturday - that beer easily rivals Pliny.  If they don't have it there, you might try Black Raven itself.
I had some of that at Cooper's on Friday.  Excellent stuff!  It was probably my favorite of the evening.  They were out by 1/2 way through Saturday.  ;) 


I actually reviewed the ones I had on my blog (trying to stick to BJCP judging style - though I didn't assign a 1-50 score on the blog).  You can read it here:

http://beermonger.blogspot.com/2011/04/coopers-alehouse-ipa-fest-is-happening.html


Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: tschmidlin on April 11, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
I had some of that at Cooper's on Friday.  Excellent stuff!  It was probably my favorite of the evening.  They were out by 1/2 way through Saturday.  ;) 
Cool.  8)

I usually miss it, so I was happy to get some this time around.
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: punatic on April 11, 2011, 06:51:53 PM
Shut up!

You Seattle guys with all your fancy-schmancy beers...

(he says while being grrreeeeeeeen with envy)   ;)
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: Beer Monger on April 11, 2011, 06:54:14 PM
Shut up!

You Seattle guys with all your fancy-schmancy beers...

(he says while being grrreeeeeeeen with envy)   ;)

Yeah, but, but... You're in HAWAII!!!!  (And we're still waiting for Spring to actually arrive!  lol)

Take a flight out sometime.  I'm sure a few of us would be happy to show you around. 
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: Beer Monger on April 11, 2011, 08:58:47 PM
Pliny is in (bottles) now at Brouwer's Cafe in Seattle!  Just FYI. 
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: Beer Monger on April 29, 2011, 04:53:50 PM
Pliny The Elder on tap today at Cooper's Alehouse in Seattle at 2:00PM - just FYI.

Actually, Cooper's whole lineup today is pretty damn good:

Pliny the Elder
Stone Ruination
Southern Tier Unearthly
Rogue XS IPA
Ninkasi Tricerahops
Snoqualmie Powerhouse
Laurelwood Workhorse
Victory Hop Wallop
Widmer X-114
ZZ Hop
Silver City Whoop Ass
Three Skulls Imperial


And don't worry, punatic, you're still in Hawaii and we're STILL waiting for Spring to arrive!  It was 37 degrees at my house this morning.  lol  
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: brandon on April 29, 2011, 06:28:52 PM
Pliny is not that hard to find, its probably the easiest of all the RR to get. Google is your friend
Title: Re: Pliny the Elder :-(
Post by: Beer Monger on April 29, 2011, 06:31:24 PM
Pliny is not that hard to find, its probably the easiest of all the RR to get. Google is your friend

Finding it in the bottle is actually pretty easy when I want it.  However, how often do you find it on tap?  Usually, when it shows up somewhere on tap, the keg doesn't last the night. 

I have plenty of other beers I enjoy just as much as Pliny the Elder, but when it just happens to show up near me, I'll enjoy a few pints.