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Title: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on January 22, 2011, 02:26:34 AM
The bill to change the OR homebrew law is about to go before the Business, Transportation and Economic Development Committee (BTED) as soon as Feb. 2 and then could be in front of the full senate by Feb. 4 or the week after.  It's time for OR homebrewers to swing into action.  This bill was drafted by an OR senator who is a homebrewer with input from the Oregon Homebrewers Alliance.  You can read the bill and the amendments that go with it at http://oregonhomebrewersalliance.org/ .  Contact your legislator to support SB 444 with the "dash-1 amendments."  Do it now!  It's likely this bill will sail through the legislature, but we need your help to make sure.  You can post questions or comments on the OHBA website.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: dbeechum on January 24, 2011, 04:24:13 PM
I think the usual sort of warning applies here as always.

If you don't live in the jurisdiction affected, please don't contact the legislators. It doesn't help and could actually hurt.

So, please only reach out if you live in Oregon.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on January 24, 2011, 04:55:14 PM
Or if you know someone who lives there, ask them to contact their legislators.  My mother-in-law already did. :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on February 02, 2011, 04:12:48 PM
UPDATE:  The committee hearing for SB444 has been set for Thur. Feb. 10.  OREGON HOMEBREWERS, now is the time to contact committee members and your legislators!  Please don't put it off! 
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: Gary Glass on February 03, 2011, 03:15:39 PM
Oregon residents, please contact the members of the Senate Business, Transportation and Economic Development Committee prior to their Thursday, February 10 meeting and urge them to support passage of SB 444.  See the Action Alert the AHA sent to Oregon AHA Members, clubs, homebrew shops and breweries (http://bit.ly/g9lQB3) for details.

The best way for non-Oregon residents to help this cause would be to forward the alert to anyone they know in Oregon that might be interested in supporting homebrewers.

Thanks!
Gary
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on February 09, 2011, 04:48:19 PM
It's likely the hearing will be live online.  It's tomorrow, 2/10 at 3 PM.  If you're interested in watching, go to http://www.leg.state.or.us/listn/ and pick Capitol Hearing Room B.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tygo on February 09, 2011, 04:49:56 PM
What time will the hearing be held?
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on February 09, 2011, 04:50:47 PM
What time will the hearing be held?

Original message edited to include time
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on February 09, 2011, 06:42:48 PM
Now we just need someone to post a reminder at 3PM :)

And that's Pacific Time!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bonjour on February 10, 2011, 08:29:36 PM
Oh,,, 6PM to the rest of us.  ;-)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tygo on February 11, 2011, 04:13:14 AM
How'd the hearing go Denny?  I was driving home at 6:00 so I didn't get the chance to watch.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on February 11, 2011, 07:00:54 AM
I couldn't watch either, come on Denny!

Maybe the silence means Denny was incarcerated for contempt of congress. :o

"What do you corrupt, designer suit wearing, adulterous jackasses know about anything anyway?"

Remember, corrupt politicians make the other 10% look bad ;)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: theDarkSide on February 11, 2011, 03:33:47 PM
http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/news/cityregion/25877477-41/homebrewers-oregon-prozanski-beer-bill.csp
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on February 11, 2011, 04:11:34 PM
The bill breezed through the Senate committee.  Even an OLCC rep was there to testify in favor.  By next Thur. it should pass the Senate and move on to the House, where it should go through easily also.

The video archive is here...

http://www.leg.state.or.us/listn/archive/archive.2011s/SBTED-201102101501.ram
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tumarkin on February 11, 2011, 04:20:37 PM
obviously your golden tounged eloquence & sartorial splendor was key in making this happen. congrats!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on February 11, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
obviously your golden tounged eloquence & sartorial splendor was key in making this happen. congrats!

Yeah, obviously....;)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on February 11, 2011, 04:58:42 PM
Great news Denny, way to go!  It's nice to read Gary flew in to help out too.  :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bluesman on February 11, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
The bill breezed through the Senate committee.  Even an OLCC rep was there to testify in favor.  By next Thur. it should pass the Senate and move on to the House, where it should go through easily also.

The video archive is here...

http://www.leg.state.or.us/listn/archive/archive.2011s/SBTED-201102101501.ram

This is very positive news Denny!  :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bonjour on February 11, 2011, 05:11:29 PM
Now if you could do the same for Mississippi

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 12, 2011, 04:32:08 PM
Good picture of the guys presenting on the AHA main page.  I said, that's Gary Glass!  Great to see the AHA staff helping move this issue along.

Hard to say for sure what color shoes Denny had on.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on February 12, 2011, 05:02:18 PM
I chickened out on the red Converse.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 12, 2011, 05:29:24 PM
Sometimes you have to dress for the occasion.

Otherwise you should have red Converse Chuck Taylors and a blue cooler.   ;)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: punatic on February 12, 2011, 06:45:36 PM
Sometimes you have to dress for the occasion.

Otherwise you should have red Converse Chuck Taylors and a blue cooler.   ;)

If you have a witbier in your glass you would be very patriotic!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on February 22, 2011, 09:52:41 PM
SB444 passed the OR Senate unanimously today with no debate!  On to the House!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on February 22, 2011, 09:53:17 PM
Great news Denny, thanks for keeping us up to date!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bluesman on February 23, 2011, 12:32:09 AM
Awesome news Denny!  8)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: maxieboy on February 23, 2011, 01:25:28 AM
It's a beautiful thing!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: Gary Glass on February 25, 2011, 06:41:29 PM
SB 444 has been assigned to the House Business & Labor Committee.  No date for a hearing yet, but that could come at any time, so now is the time for Oregon residents to start contacting the committee members, as well as the Representatives for their districts asking them to support the bill.  See the Action Alert we just sent to Oregon AHA members: http://bit.ly/hmMJ2E.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 16, 2011, 07:10:39 PM
SB 444 passed the OR House today.  All that's left is for the governor to sign it and OR will have the best homebrew law in the US!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 16, 2011, 07:11:36 PM
Awesome news Denny, congratulations!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 16, 2011, 07:16:54 PM
A big thanks to WAHA for their advice, Tom!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bluesman on March 16, 2011, 07:17:11 PM
This is fabulous news Denny!  8)

Congrats to OR homebrewers!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 16, 2011, 07:26:30 PM
One legislator read a poem he'd written about homebrew.  Another one broke the law and brought a bottle of homebrew to toast with!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 16, 2011, 07:30:53 PM
One legislator read a poem he'd written about homebrew.  Another one broke the law and brought a bottle of homebrew to toast with!
Awesome!  When we got our bill signed the Governor wanted to know why we hadn't brought her any homebrew.  We explained that would have been illegal . . . and then she said "so if someone in the office brought in homemade wine as gifts?" and she glanced at a guy in the corner who had a grin on his face.  :)

Glad we could help.  I was talking to an OR guy this weekend, the bill has an emergency clause so it takes effect right away, right?  Good news for the NHC First Round. :)

He also said it was so liberal you can sell your homebrew if you "need to", and everyone in OR is going to be required to have homebrewing gear in case of emergency. ;D
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 16, 2011, 07:45:33 PM
Glad we could help.  I was talking to an OR guy this weekend, the bill has an emergency clause so it takes effect right away, right?  Good news for the NHC First Round. :)

Yep, it's an emergency!

He also said it was so liberal you can sell your homebrew if you "need to"

I hope he was joking....that particular issue was tough enough to reassure legislators about.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: punatic on March 16, 2011, 08:43:32 PM
Good news and great work Denny!  Congratulations!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 17, 2011, 06:12:43 AM
He also said it was so liberal you can sell your homebrew if you "need to"

I hope he was joking....that particular issue was tough enough to reassure legislators about.
;D  Clearly he was joking.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: Gary Glass on March 17, 2011, 02:16:51 PM
I'd like to recognize Greg Bolt, Chris Hummert, Ted Hausotter, and Denny Conn who created the Oregon Home Brewers Alliance and spearheaded the OHBA's effort to get the Oregon homebrew law changed.  I've been truly impressed by their tireless efforts dedicated to pushing Senate Bill 444 through the legislature.  It's been a real honor for me to work with these guys on this campaign.

Up next: Alabama should have a bill to legalize homebrewing filed in the very near future.  I am optimistic about that bill's chances for success this year.   
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 17, 2011, 03:08:45 PM
We need a "blush" emoticon!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 17, 2011, 05:15:18 PM
We need a "blush" emoticon!
:-[
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: brandonchr on March 17, 2011, 06:00:39 PM
Thanks for your hard work Denny. Cheers
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 17, 2011, 08:03:00 PM
Denny, good work.  Glad to see it is done, well except for the last signature.  Do you get a pen from the signing?

Seriously, this shows that the system can be made to work.  Glad to see the OR homebrewers can enter the Nationals.

I had best go keg those beers I brewed for the Nationals.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 22, 2011, 03:13:07 PM
We have a signing ceremony with the gov on Mon. afternoon.  He even sent along his preferences for after signing libations!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: dbeechum on March 22, 2011, 03:15:50 PM
Here's my question. If the governor asked you for a wheat beer to celebrate, what would you do?
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bluesman on March 22, 2011, 03:20:26 PM
We have a signing ceremony with the gov on Mon. afternoon.  He even sent along his preferences for after signing libations!

That's really cool!

You should give him a sample of your Rye IPA...or your VBIP.  :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 03:43:56 PM
Here's my question. If the governor asked you for a wheat beer to celebrate, what would you do?
Bavarian hefe, wheat wine, lambic, Berliner weisse, anything but what he probably meant. :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 22, 2011, 04:01:41 PM
Here's my question. If the governor asked you for a wheat beer to celebrate, what would you do?

Give him my German pils.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 22, 2011, 04:02:11 PM
We have a signing ceremony with the gov on Mon. afternoon.  He even sent along his preferences for after signing libations!

That's really cool!

You should give him a sample of your Rye IPA...or your VBIP.  :)

The word is that he likes "lighter" styles.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 04:27:57 PM
So are you going for the signing Denny?  Get you picture taken with the governor? ;D

(http://www.wahomebrewers.org/images/Documents/Legal/20090506-sb%205060-9233-very%20small.jpg)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: Hokerer on March 22, 2011, 04:46:55 PM
So are you going for the signing Denny?  Get you picture taken with the governor? ;D

You really think Denny would cave like you did and put on a tie just to get his pic snapped with the guv?
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bluesman on March 22, 2011, 04:47:46 PM
So are you going for the signing Denny?  Get you picture taken with the governor? ;D

You really think Denny would cave like you did and put on a tie just to get his pic snapped with the guv?

Not.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 04:53:05 PM
So are you going for the signing Denny?  Get you picture taken with the governor? ;D

You really think Denny would cave like you did and put on a tie just to get his pic snapped with the guv?
I didn't have to wear a tie, I chose to (note Tim, the guy on the left) ;)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 22, 2011, 04:55:26 PM
So are you going for the signing Denny?  Get you picture taken with the governor? ;D


Yep, just like that...although I probably won't dress up like you guys did.  Our gov wears blue jeans and cowboy boots to work.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 22, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
So are you going for the signing Denny?  Get you picture taken with the governor? ;D

You really think Denny would cave like you did and put on a tie just to get his pic snapped with the guv?

Not.

I may wear my Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote tie....I ain't gettin' my hair cut, though!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bluesman on March 22, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
So are you going for the signing Denny?  Get you picture taken with the governor? ;D

You really think Denny would cave like you did and put on a tie just to get his pic snapped with the guv?

Not.

I may wear my Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote tie....

That would be awesome...can you post the pics?

Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 22, 2011, 04:59:41 PM
That would be awesome...can you post the pics?



Of course!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 04:59:58 PM
Yep, just like that...although I probably won't dress up like you guys did.  Our gov wears blue jeans and cowboy boots to work.
Yeah, post the pic when you get it. :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 10:36:17 PM
So are you going for the signing Denny?  Get you picture taken with the governor? ;D

(http://www.wahomebrewers.org/images/Documents/Legal/20090506-sb%205060-9233-very%20small.jpg)

I see Penn, but where is Teller? ;)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on March 23, 2011, 02:28:45 AM
I just want to say well done.
Congratulations.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 23, 2011, 03:18:14 PM
I just want to say well done.
Congratulations.

Thanks, Leos!
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 29, 2011, 03:16:48 PM
The deed is done...

(http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy221/dennyconn/SB%20444/DSCN0329.jpg)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tygo on March 29, 2011, 03:42:14 PM
Awesome!  Congrats!

Nice tie.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: punatic on March 29, 2011, 04:38:30 PM
Job well done!

Where's the homebrew?

I like a Govenor who goes tieless.  I think you might have overdressed a bit Denny.

Is the guy to your left a homebrewer? (he has no facial hair)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bluesman on March 29, 2011, 04:51:48 PM
This is huge milestone for OR...so glad to see it done.

Denny...you should be very proud of this.
Homebrewers in OR should be very thankful and proud.

Congrats!  :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: jeffy on March 29, 2011, 04:54:38 PM
Is that Ted Hausotter in the tan jacket?
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: gordonstrong on March 29, 2011, 04:55:24 PM
Is that Ted Hausotter in the tan jacket?

Yes
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 29, 2011, 04:59:59 PM
Is that Ted Hausotter in the tan jacket?

Yep.  From L to R, it's State Sen. Floyd Prozanski, sponsor of the bill (and a hell of a homebrewer!), Chris Hummert from the Oregon Home Brewers Alliance, Gov. John Kitzhaber (what you can't see is the faded blue jeans, cowboy boots, and silver belt buckle with a big "K" on it), me, Greg Bolt of the OHBA (who did a lot of the heavy lifting), and Ted.

The guv had another meeting to go to, so we just left homebrew for him.  Then we went back to Floyd's office and partied!

(http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy221/dennyconn/SB%20444/DSCN0342.jpg)

Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 29, 2011, 05:01:07 PM
This is huge milestone for OR...so glad to see it done.

Denny...you should be very proud of this.
Homebrewers in OR should be very thankful and proud.

Congrats!  :)

Thanks, Ron.  It should be a milestone for all homebrewers, I hope.  We now have the most liberal homebrew law in the country according to Gary.  I hope it becomes the model for other states.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: gordonstrong on March 29, 2011, 05:03:17 PM
Nice job, all.  Shows what happens when you mess with homebrewers in the PNW.

So what's the badge-looking thing on several of your lapels?
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 29, 2011, 05:05:57 PM
So what's the badge-looking thing on several of your lapels?

Chris had badges made for "Homebrew Independence Day".  There weren't enough for everybody, so I gave mine to Greg in appreciation of all the work he did.  He was the one who first made contact with Floyd.  His background as newspaper reporter was invaluable to keep abreast of what was going on in the bill.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on March 29, 2011, 05:12:57 PM
That's awesome Denny, more congratulations!  I'm glad to see Ted made the drive too. :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: Hokerer on March 29, 2011, 05:14:13 PM
Yep.  From L to R, it's State Sen. Floyd Prozanski, sponsor of the bill (and a hell of a homebrewer!), Chris Hummert from the Oregon Home Brewers Alliance, Gov. John Kitzhaber (what you can't see is the faded blue jeans, cowboy boots, and silver belt buckle with a big "K" on it), me, Greg Bolt of the OHBA (who did a lot of the heavy lifting), and Ted.

Ah, I get it now.  You're listing the folks in the original pic and not the one in this post.  Was driving me crazy trying to find the sixth guy in that pic :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: theDarkSide on March 29, 2011, 05:53:58 PM
Ah, I get it now.  You're listing the folks in the original pic and not the one in this post.  Was driving me crazy trying to find the sixth guy in that pic :)

I know...it was scary to think that the 3rd guy from the left was their Governor.  ;)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: punatic on March 29, 2011, 06:49:51 PM
Ah, I get it now.  You're listing the folks in the original pic and not the one in this post.  Was driving me crazy trying to find the sixth guy in that pic :)

I know...it was scary to think that the 3rd guy from the left was their Governor.  ;)


Oh, I don't know...  Things would be different.  Different can be a good thing.   ;)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on March 29, 2011, 07:23:20 PM
More info...

http://oregonhomebrewersalliance.org/?p=202
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: maxieboy on March 31, 2011, 02:09:57 PM
Awesome! Kudos to all involved.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: punatic on April 01, 2011, 02:34:08 AM

...Gov. John Kitzhaber (what you can't see is the faded blue jeans, cowboy boots, and silver belt buckle with a big "K" on it),..


Well that explains the Code of the West, "Cowboy Ethics" bill.   :)

1 Live each day with courage
2 Take pride in your work
3 Always finish what you start
4 Do what has to be done
5 Be tough, but fair
6 When you make a promise, keep it
7 Ride for the brand
8 Talk less and say more
9 Remember that some things aren't for sale
10 Know where to draw the line
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on April 01, 2011, 03:25:03 PM

...Gov. John Kitzhaber (what you can't see is the faded blue jeans, cowboy boots, and silver belt buckle with a big "K" on it),..


Well that explains the Code of the West, "Cowboy Ethics" bill.   :)

1 Live each day with courage
2 Take pride in your work
3 Always finish what you start
4 Do what has to be done
5 Be tough, but fair
6 When you make a promise, keep it
7 Ride for the brand
8 Talk less and say more
9 Remember that some things aren't for sale
10 Know where to draw the line


Yeah, because they had nothing more important to do.... ::)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: bluesman on April 01, 2011, 04:26:49 PM
Hey Denny...you made the front page of the AHA website.

Looking good with your Wile E Coyote and Roadrunner tie.  :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: denny on April 01, 2011, 04:49:44 PM
God, that's gonna scare people off....
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: punatic on April 01, 2011, 05:32:17 PM

Yeah, because they had nothing more important to do.... ::)


I think passing symbolic legislation to encourage the constituancy to live a responsible life-style is a good thing.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on April 01, 2011, 06:37:12 PM

Yeah, because they had nothing more important to do.... ::)


I think passing symbolic legislation to encourage the constituancy to live a responsible life-style is a good thing.
I think it's a waste of time because it does nothing and will be largely ignored.  Living a responsible lifestyle has to be taught, and the earlier you start the better.  Emphasis on _I_ think, just my opinion. :)
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: punatic on April 01, 2011, 07:24:43 PM

I think it's a waste of time because it does nothing and will be largely ignored.


Are you talking about the bill, or the legislature itself?   :D


Just goofing around guys... The proof that the legislature gets good things done on behalf, and with the help, of their constituancy is in the subject of this thread.
Title: Re: OR Homebrew law ALERT!
Post by: tschmidlin on April 01, 2011, 08:04:28 PM
I think it's a waste of time because it does nothing and will be largely ignored.
Are you talking about the bill, or the legislature itself?   :D
;D