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Title: H**lth Food
Post by: nicneufeld on December 04, 2009, 12:58:45 PM
So, I figure I could stand to lose a few (the definition of "few" being rather elastic), and I'm starting to edge myself away from the excesses of my recent cooking which tends to be less than healthy (for instance, oktoberfest?  its like a carb and fat festival!).

What is stranger is that I've almost started to develop a strange (and novel, for me) affinity for certain healthy foods...last night my dinner was a salad of spinach, thinly sliced cucumber, paper-thin sliced celery, and faint drizzle of olive oil and pepper.  Also a fresh thai birdseye chili minced up, which put some serious heat in it.  I really liked it!  Maybe I had one too many racks of pork ribs?  :D  My homemade pizzas have stopped including meat as a topping and now generally are topped with pineapple, mushrooms, olives, jalapenos, etc.  Oh, and I've at least temporarily retired my 20oz beer mug...last night a 9oz pull was equally satisfying, if savored a bit slower.

Any of you guys have any specialties that you would consider particularly exemplary in health/nutrition?
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: denny on December 04, 2009, 01:08:21 PM
I make a big batch of chicken/veg/orzo soup every week or so.  Very healthy, very tasty, and you can freeze leftovers for a quick meal.  And keep in mind that portion control and exercise are equally important to diet in terms of weight loss.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: nicneufeld on December 04, 2009, 01:21:57 PM
Of course...those two things have been added as well.  Simple little things like using small salad plates instead of larger plates can help in small ways get you adapted to not filling (and emptying) a full dinner plate, and as mentioned, smaller glassware helps moderate calorically rich homebrew, too.

When I do smoke things like chicken or other meats I usually end up with a lot of it stored in the freezer, so a vegetable soup might be a good thing to use with the leftover roast chicken.  The backbone and trimmings (from before the roast was cooked) makes a great stock to use as a base for a soup, so I may try that.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: redbeerman on December 04, 2009, 02:16:45 PM
Nic, You're pretty big into asian food, right?  We have a stir fry at least once a week.  Lots of veggies is key, with little chix or beef.  Make the sauce yourself,  I use fish sauce, rice wine, a little sesame oil, and thicken with corn starch.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: nicneufeld on December 04, 2009, 02:52:40 PM
Oh, yeah, totally agree there.  I'll pass on the fish sauce, just can't get over the aroma and even when cooked in food and somewhat muted...it adds little to me, other than the faintly detectable aroma of....well I'll leave my opinions of fish sauce there.

But some ginger, veggies, good soy, lots of chili peppers or chili sauce can make a great stir fry.  If I'm going to add a starch, rice noodles are my favorite by far.  I don't know how they stack up but rice noodles seem a bit lighter and less starchy/carby than more normal wheat noodles.  I also like jasmine rice, but rice noodles are easier to whip up.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: bluesman on December 04, 2009, 03:19:34 PM
I have to agree on the aroma of fish sauce. It is not very pleasant however it's flavor contributions are very nice. I love asian sauces. I am a big schezuan fan. Big bold flavors with some heat. I could eat asian every week.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: capozzoli on December 04, 2009, 07:12:38 PM
Hey Nic, try some of the Indian Veg dishes. Lots are very easy and fast and keep well. Te use of such things as spices, hot peppers, lentils and rice combined with quick pan breads make it both healthy and hearty.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: majorvices on December 08, 2009, 07:36:01 PM
An easy and healthy recipe for a nice honey-mustard dressing: Mix up a couple Tblspoons Honey into a 1/3-1/2 cup Spicy Brown mustard, add a touch of Olive oil and a splash of Balsamic Vinegar. Mix well and serve over a simple salad of Spinach and Sliced Portabello Mushrooms. A little crumbled up bacon makes it perfect - half a pice of bacon won't hurt you any.  ;)

I have a bunch of healthy recipes I will try to post over the next few days. You can start by looking at page 2 for my Spicy Basil Chicken.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: beerocd on December 09, 2009, 08:13:28 AM
You can start by looking at page 2 for my Spicy Basil Chicken.

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Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: denny on December 09, 2009, 09:44:51 AM
You can start by looking at page 2 for my Spicy Basil Chicken.

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http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=39.0
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: euge on April 09, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
I've lost 20+ pounds since last year just by cutting my portions down considerably. I rarely take seconds. It is possible to drink beer and lose weight, but the calories have to get cut somewhere.

Love veggies- in fact if it wasn't for my BBQ addiction I'd return to strict vegitarianism in a heartbeat. :)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: rabid_dingo on April 09, 2010, 09:52:27 PM
As far as health food goes, would you consider sushi as healthy? I really wish I could make it at home. Love the stuff.

I am no health nut by any means. But I have made it a point to have much less red meat than I am used to. I have taken a liking to many asian meals that are mostly salads, fish, and what not. I wanted to get into making sushi at home but then I saw Bobby Flay throw down against a sushi joint...I wonder how I would do.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: euge on April 09, 2010, 10:13:48 PM
LOL I just had nigiri from the market. Not too bad. Filling.


Bought one of those rolling mats and have made maki (rolls). I've also made nigiri. The rice is easy to make and should be left out overnight to ferment a bit with the sugar and vinegar.

Kinda messy and sticky but fun and healthy to make.


Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: brewmichigan on April 12, 2010, 08:12:08 AM
As far as health food goes, would you consider sushi as healthy? I really wish I could make it at home. Love the stuff.

I am no health nut by any means. But I have made it a point to have much less red meat than I am used to. I have taken a liking to many asian meals that are mostly salads, fish, and what not. I wanted to get into making sushi at home but then I saw Bobby Flay throw down against a sushi joint...I wonder how I would do.

Alton Brown had a Good Eats episode on making sushi. It wasn't nigiri but rolls. Didn't look too hard but it seemed you need some specialized equipment, like the mats, that I didn't want to buy because I wouldn't make it very often. Looked good though.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: mikeypedersen on April 12, 2010, 08:30:52 AM
Sushi is pretty easy and much cheaper than eating it out.  All you need are some bamboo mats and I have found a rice cooker to also be very helpful.  Get a book or just search on-line and you'll be making regular rolls and inside out rolls in no time.  I make vegetarian rolls all the time to bring in for lunch at work.  I think you could probably dip just about anything in Soy Sauce and Wasabi and it would taste good!
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: nicneufeld on April 12, 2010, 10:30:56 AM
The challenge for us is buying sushi-grade fish in the landlocked midwest.  Kansas City is big enough I'm sure it could be had but probably at a steep premium.  Fish in general is quite costly.  The cheapest fish around is either local catfish or frozen bags of tilapia filets.

Sushi rolls aren't hard to make at all, I think, from my one experience doing so.  However, if I did them again, I would leave out the nori...helps with rolling but if you aren't doing fish sushi it leaves a wretched fishy stink.  And wasabi isn't much to my liking...I like my heat more in a birdseye chili sort of way than in a horseradish, mustardy sort of way.  Here was my attempt, a korean bulgogi roll and a spam and pineapple roll!

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/nicneufeld/Spamushi.jpg)

Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: mikeypedersen on April 12, 2010, 10:48:23 AM
The challenge for us is buying sushi-grade fish in the landlocked midwest.  Kansas City is big enough I'm sure it could be had but probably at a steep premium.  Fish in general is quite costly. 
Whole Foods normally has a good selection, but it is pricey.  The good news is that in rolls, it tends to go further than with the nigiri rolls.  Sometimes to spread the costs out, we'll have roll your own sushi parties at our house.  Just get a bunch of ingredients, veggies, sushi-grade fish, and shrimp.  Do up some tempura with the shrimp and some of the veggies and make some Spicy Sauce so that people can put some on their fish if they want and let everyone go to town.  When everyone pitches in for fish, it's normally not too bad.

We have a couple of slabs of marble that we lay the rolls out on, then with a wax pen on the marble you can "label" what each roll is and let everyone take what they want.  It's a pretty fun way to do it!

Those rolls look and sound pretty tasty!  Good work on the Pearl Sake too, good stuff!
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: euge on April 12, 2010, 11:34:39 AM
Since I don't trust the raw stuff behind the counter usually the option is for cooked stuff like imitation crab-meat or smoked salmon.

Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: EHall on June 08, 2010, 02:50:16 PM
Something I'm trying to do too... Couple of things I've come across recently that I think will help me along with others...

http://www.cleaneatingmag.com/minisite/ce_index.htm - pretty simple concept.

http://www.ted.com/talks/graham_hill_weekday_vegetarian.html -overall this is a pretty cool site.

But the hardest part for me is I'm a carnivore, I love meat! Reducing it has been difficult, but to counter that lately I've add
a ton more veges to my meals, trying to eat more seafood too. Today I just made some hummus, never been a big fan of it, but decided, hey, I need a healthier snack... turned out pretty good with the flatbread I got. next time I'll change it up a bit and try a different version of it.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: weithman5 on June 08, 2010, 06:23:01 PM
i hear this all the time "doc, i would love to lose weight but i dont have the time"  i dont care.  exercise for fitness. not weight loss.  any weight loss from exercise can be considered a bonus.  then i get what foods should i eat.  again.  i dont care.  fix the portion control first.  control the appetite. eat the kind of foods you like. just less.  as far as meat goes. it has gotten a bad rap.  true, beef/fat will raise your cholesterol but it raises hdl more than ldl and your ratio actually gets better.  fix the weight first by appetite control.  soon, your body will let you know what to eat.  i had a patient who had borderline cholesterol.  he became a vegan without weight change and his lipid profile is actually a little worse. his ldl dropped by a point or two and his hdl plummeted. bottom line, you drink what you enjoy in moderation (hopefully), eat in moderation.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: uthristy on June 09, 2010, 06:23:04 AM
I have a couple of these every week during the growing season, a cool,crisp cuccumber,tomato,onion sandwich ;D
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/Beer_Tour2/whats4lunch.jpg)

Oh yeah almost forgot:

03-30-2010
Cholesterol 120 - triglycerides 47 - HDL 56 - LDL 55

12- 21, 2007
Cholesterol 266 with the bad being 185

I eat the same as before and just take some niacin, dr said my diet was always good.

Mostly chicken --> fish  - - -> red meat, with lots of veggies. Pizza or whatever junkfood 1-2 times a month and 3 beers per day max.

Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: nicneufeld on June 09, 2010, 08:50:54 AM
I just like plain old cucumber sandwiches, buttered bread and cucumber, and some coarse salt.  However, not very filling at all, but a great snack.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: uthristy on June 09, 2010, 09:06:32 AM
Heres a simple but good meal:

2 chicken breast resting on a bed of chopped green peppers & onions, some fresh basil,garlic, tomatoe slices, add a couple shavings of pecorino romano & chevrion goat cheese, bit of butter and drizzle with olive oil.

Grill for 20 min high , serve on a bed of angle hair with a glass of Doenkerbloend ale.

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/UknowWho2u/My%20brew%20pics/bottle%20beer/picture%20of%20my%20pint/brewstuff/randomstuff/whast4dinner.jpg)

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A fast n simple southwest chipotle spiced chicken dinner that will sit on a bed of spinach. Make  3 layers with onion/spice between each and top with more onion/spice with a little southwest sauce. wrap & bake 45min 325f, lay on bed of  spinach with more sauce.


(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/Beer_Tour2/sthwestchkin1layer.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/Beer_Tour2/southwestchkin2.jpg)


(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/Beer_Tour2/southwestchkin3.jpg)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: richardt on June 09, 2010, 10:23:18 AM
Gawd, that looks good!  And easy to make!
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: weithman5 on June 09, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
now i am just damn hungry, and i already overate at lunch, like i said portion control. but that is the hard part with so many wonderful, tasty, delicious, readily available options....
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: bluesman on June 09, 2010, 02:04:55 PM
mmm...mmm...good!

My mouth is watering.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: uthristy on June 14, 2010, 11:23:28 AM
Bigass Zucchini boats
serves two:
2 very large zucchinis hollowed out ---> Bush Baby (F1) grown out
1 green pepper ----> Lantern (F1)
2 onions (Texas white & red),
2 cloves of garlic ----- > Ajo Rojo
1 mid sized chicken breast

stir fry together with pat of butter,olive oil and 1/2cup Sockarooni sauce (http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/paul-newman/sockarooni-sauce)
grate some parmesan  & lay inside boat, fill with cooked chicken and add more parmesan  ;D

Cook at 325f for 30min


(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/Beer_Tour2/zucchiniboats.jpg)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: weazletoe on June 18, 2010, 03:31:36 PM
 Would one of you mederators please lock and/or delete this thread? It's making me uncomfortable.  :-\
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: uthristy on June 25, 2010, 08:17:50 AM
Ginger Chicken

1 chicken breast covered with ginger dressing,  wrap and bake 30min @ 325 and serve on a bed of spinach.

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/UknowWho2u/My%20brew%20pics/bottle%20beer/picture%20of%20my%20pint/brewstuff/randomstuff/gingerchicken.jpg)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: denny on June 25, 2010, 10:40:04 AM
Would one of you mederators please lock and/or delete this thread? It's making me uncomfortable.  :-\

How about if I sign you up for an RSS feed of it instead?  ;)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: uthristy on July 06, 2010, 08:59:46 AM
Tex Mex Chicken:

2 breast
1 Jalapeno
1 green pepper
1 mid sized onion
1 can of Rotel diced tomatoes/green chile (drained)
1 bottle of Old El Paso chunky salsa
1 can of black beans (drained)

chipotle sauce to taste

Place all into the crockpot, cook on low 2-3hrs
Serve with lettuce and a nice hoppy beer.--Serves 2

Very damn good for you too!

without Cheese>
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/Beer_Tour2/withoutCheese.jpg)

With Cheese>
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/Beer_Tour2/w_cheese.jpg)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: EHall on July 09, 2010, 01:38:09 PM
All your recipes look good, sound good... but man, you gotta work on your plating techinques! Gordon Ramsey would have a s***fit if he saw these!
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: uthristy on July 11, 2010, 07:37:52 AM
you gotta work on your plating techinques! Gordon Ramsey would have a s***fit if he saw these!
:D
You gotta know I just take a pic before eatting without planning the presentation, lets try this>

albacore -soy sauce & chili oil = 36grams protein  2g total fat


(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/Beer_Tour2/albacore.jpg)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: EHall on July 12, 2010, 09:37:36 AM
Yer on the right track! know that I wasn't picking on you directly!  :)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: uthristy on July 12, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
know that I wasn't picking on you directly!  :)

I knew and just for fun was going have a cat eatting the food :o :D
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: EHall on July 12, 2010, 06:17:53 PM
I'd like to see that pic of the cat licking the hotsauce then making whatever funny face... do it!
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: beerocd on July 12, 2010, 06:29:38 PM
Cats can't make faces - they're like Joan Rivers.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: a10t2 on July 12, 2010, 10:46:38 PM
In terms of filling calories, chicken breast meat is your best friend. It's actually terrible from a calorie/carbon standpoint, but I buy it at the local farmer's market to assuage my liberal guilt. One of my favorite lunches is a chicken reuben.

4 oz of chicken breast meat
as much sauerkraut (homemade) and fat-free thousand island dressing as you want
1 oz slice of swiss cheese (I use the real, 100% fat stuff, because otherwise what's the point?)
two slices of homemade rye IPA bread with whole wheat flour

Works out to about 600 calories, and I don't think I could eat more than one a day, it's so filling.

I make my own sushi/nigiri too, and I'll post on that as soon as I can take some pictures to show y'all up. ;)
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: beerocd on July 13, 2010, 06:52:18 AM

two slices of homemade rye IPA bread with whole wheat flour


basic rye, sub beer for water?
and what's with the Al Gore chicken? I don't think I've heard that one, I though everyone was angry at cows.
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: EHall on July 13, 2010, 04:38:49 PM
I only get angry with cows and chickens when I accidently overcook them...
Title: Re: H**lth Food
Post by: a10t2 on July 22, 2010, 10:39:26 PM
basic rye, sub beer for water?

Pretty much. I just make a basic bread recipe with whole wheat flour, but replace about 15% of it with pulverized spent grains, Rye IPA being my favorite. Oatmeal stout grist is pretty incredible too. Using the spent grains adds a ton of fiber, so it makes for very filling bread, but since you've mashed all the carbohydrates (hopefully) there isn't much left in it, nutritionally speaking.

and what's with the Al Gore chicken? I don't think I've heard that one, I though everyone was angry at cows.

I'm trying to remember where I heard that; I think it was in a TED Talk. The reasoning is that cattle (that are free range) provide incredibly rich fertilizer, and the massive growth in grasses that occurs when they have adequate pasture land does a lot to offset their own carbon emissions. Chicken feces, by contrast, are highly acidic and nitrogenous and will "burn out" the soil if they're kept on grassland too long. In a CAFO, I'm sure chicken would be better.