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Title: Gap in the BJCP Weizens?
Post by: tomsawyer on January 27, 2011, 11:44:33 pm

I was checking out the BJCP style guidelines  The weizen has a color range of 2-8 SRM, the dunkelweizen has a color range of 14-23.  I hadn't noticed this before.  Where does a German wheat beer that has a color of 10-12 SRM fall?  Is it "take your pick"?  What other characteristics can I use to decide what category to enter a beer? 

Title: Re: Gap in the BJCP Weizens?
Post by: euge on January 28, 2011, 03:14:13 am

Quote from: tomsawyer on January 27, 2011, 11:44:33 pm

I was checking out the BJCP style guidelines  The weizen has a color range of 2-8 SRM, the dunkelweizen has a color range of 14-23.  I hadn't noticed this before.  Where does a German wheat beer that has a color of 10-12 SRM fall?  Is it "take your pick"?  What other characteristics can I use to decide what category to enter a beer? 

I looked on my BJCPdroid and you're right. Hadn't noticed the discrepancy if that's appropriate. Then again I miss alot of things...

To me its going to be flavor and beer strength that'll guide you in your decision. And make a note of it for the judges.

Title: Re: Gap in the BJCP Weizens?
Post by: jaybeerman on January 28, 2011, 05:00:04 am

Quote from: tomsawyer on January 27, 2011, 11:44:33 pm

I was checking out the BJCP style guidelines  The weizen has a color range of 2-8 SRM, the dunkelweizen has a color range of 14-23.  I hadn't noticed this before.  Where does a German wheat beer that has a color of 10-12 SRM fall?  Is it "take your pick"?  What other characteristics can I use to decide what category to enter a beer? 

No one has ever made a wheat that fell in-between the two groups  ;)  How would you characterize the beer?  Would you say it sits closer to one or the other?  It is a german wheat right?

Title: Re: Gap in the BJCP Weizens?
Post by: MDixon on January 28, 2011, 12:45:32 pm

There just aren't wheats which fall in the crack. Have a gander at an SRM scale and then name several (10-20) readily available commercial examples which are 9-13...if you could, then it might be valid for a revision.

I have made a pale Weizenbock before, but even it wasn't darker than an 8 SRM.

Title: Re: Gap in the BJCP Weizens?
Post by: tomsawyer on January 28, 2011, 01:14:28 pm

What is the SRM of Ayinger Ur-Weisse?  Its supposed to be a dunkelweizen, I was surprised it was as light as it was.

Title: Re: Gap in the BJCP Weizens?
Post by: MDixon on January 28, 2011, 01:50:56 pm

(http://en.ayinger-bier.de/usr/usr_images/cont_122.jpg)

This is back lit with sunlight so it certainly couldn't appear much lighter.

(note: I have no idea if this is 100% accurate, just a quick one I found on the web)
(http://www.franklinbrew.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/srm.jpg)


The glass will make a difference and how much beer you are looking through. I'd guess if we stuck it in a pint glass it would appear to be more than a 13.

Title: Re: Gap in the BJCP Weizens?
Post by: tomsawyer on January 28, 2011, 04:41:09 pm

I was thinking 11 or 12 but its tough to tell.  Thanks for postin the pics and guide.

I understand now why there isn't overlap.  I was just surprised because there seems to be a lot of overlap in similar styles in general.

Title: Re: Gap in the BJCP Weizens?
Post by: euge on January 28, 2011, 07:01:42 pm

I was thinking 13 SRM. And that Ayinger looks mighty tempting!