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Title: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: dano14041 on January 29, 2011, 11:42:50 PM
This looks interesting.

http://www.brewbound.com/News/2011-1-27-How_Beer_Saved_the_World_debuts_Sunday
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: jaybeerman on January 30, 2011, 03:26:57 AM
...starring Sam Calagione?  Just kidding, this one does look interesting.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: SiameseMoose on January 31, 2011, 05:42:26 PM
If you have a Kindle, the companion book by Charlie Bamforth is free today on Amazon.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: dbeechum on January 31, 2011, 06:39:18 PM
This one?

http://www.amazon.com/Beer-Proof-God-Loves-ebook/dp/B00403MNSK/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1296499081&sr=8-6

Don't forget.. if you don't have a kindle, you can download the kindle reader to your computer too.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: tschmidlin on January 31, 2011, 06:49:02 PM
Sweet!  I really wanted this book, despite the perpetuation of the misquote in the title.  Downloading now . . . ;D

<edit>Anyone know of any other good free beer books for the kindle?
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: blatz on January 31, 2011, 06:49:28 PM
damn - I started watching it last night at 11PM, but I made it all of 10 minutes or so into it and crashed.  It was good (what I saw of it).

I'm sure they will re-air it.

Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 31, 2011, 06:54:48 PM
My wife called it mildly entertaining with some facts thrown in.  Some of the facts were true.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: tschmidlin on January 31, 2011, 06:56:05 PM
i haven't watched it yet, I have it on the DVR.  Thanks for the warning that it's not that accurate, my wife won't want to watch it with me since I'll be complaining at the TV. :)
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 31, 2011, 07:01:15 PM
i haven't watched it yet, I have it on the DVR.  Thanks for the warning that it's not that accurate, my wife won't want to watch it with me since I'll be complaining at the TV. :)

I called it an hour long MillerCoors infomercial/PR show.  Plenty of product placement in there.

Drew - thanks for the heads up on the Kindle version of Bamforth's book and the reader.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: tschmidlin on January 31, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
Good to know.  But it's still a show about beer on TV, I like that :)
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: Slowbrew on January 31, 2011, 07:10:18 PM
i haven't watched it yet, I have it on the DVR.  Thanks for the warning that it's not that accurate, my wife won't want to watch it with me since I'll be complaining at the TV. :)

I called it an hour long MillerCoors infomercial/PR show.  Plenty of product placement in there.

I watched some of it and thought the same thing.  I guess somebody had to pay for the production.

Paul
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: bluesman on January 31, 2011, 07:35:47 PM
I missed it...  :(

Will they show it again?
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: Slowbrew on January 31, 2011, 07:45:24 PM
The discovery Channel web site only lists it on 1/30/2011.

We'll have to wait and see if they show it again.

Paul
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: alikocho on January 31, 2011, 07:50:29 PM
This one?

http://www.amazon.com/Beer-Proof-God-Loves-ebook/dp/B00403MNSK/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1296499081&sr=8-6

Don't forget.. if you don't have a kindle, you can download the kindle reader to your computer too.

Argh. Can't get this in the UK for free.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: SiameseMoose on January 31, 2011, 08:05:51 PM
Don't forget.. if you don't have a kindle, you can download the kindle reader to your computer too.

I have a Kindle, so I'd forgotten about that. Thanks for adding it.

And a reminder, it's free today only (1/31). In addition, Amazon usually ends free offers when a certain number are gone, so don't wait!
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: dirk_mclargehuge on January 31, 2011, 09:07:38 PM
I didn't really think of it as an hour long commercial for MillerCoors.  Yes, they advertised on it, and yes they showed a lot of their breweries.  No one here seemed to complain that Brew Masters was a DogFish Head infomercial.

I thought the was quite accurate. Micheal Jackson made the same points about Beer leading to the beginning of civilization. "Bread, Beer and the Seeds of Change" by Thomas and Carol Sinclair described the diet of pre-Industrial peoples as being mainly beer and bread, with the thesis that Civilization owes its existence to beer. Gregg Smith's book "Beer in America: The Early Years" said some of the same things the show did.  I didn't find anything factually incorrect.  Yes, they presented it in a humorous way, but if that makes thing inaccurate. . .
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: jeffy on January 31, 2011, 09:22:23 PM
I didn't really think of it as an hour long commercial for MillerCoors.  Yes, they advertised on it, and yes they showed a lot of their breweries.  No one here seemed to complain that Brew Masters was a DogFish Head infomercial.

I thought the was quite accurate. Micheal Jackson made the same points about Beer leading to the beginning of civilization. "Bread, Beer and the Seeds of Change" by Thomas and Carol Sinclair described the diet of pre-Industrial peoples as being mainly beer and bread, with the thesis that Civilization owes its existence to beer. Gregg Smith's book "Beer in America: The Early Years" said some of the same things the show did.  I didn't find anything factually incorrect.  Yes, they presented it in a humorous way, but if that makes thing inaccurate. . .

All that is true.  I doubt there are many people on this forum who wouldn't already know most of the stuff and it was certainly presented with a sensationalist tone that seemed to be marketing to the Joe Sixpack crowd.  Beer may sell stuff as well as or better than sharks seems to be the thinking.
I couldn't stay tuned to it, other than to say, "hey I know that guy!" a couple times.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 31, 2011, 11:53:35 PM
I didn't really think of it as an hour long commercial for MillerCoors.  Yes, they advertised on it, and yes they showed a lot of their breweries.  No one here seemed to complain that Brew Masters was a DogFish Head infomercial.

I thought the was quite accurate. Micheal Jackson made the same points about Beer leading to the beginning of civilization. "Bread, Beer and the Seeds of Change" by Thomas and Carol Sinclair described the diet of pre-Industrial peoples as being mainly beer and bread, with the thesis that Civilization owes its existence to beer. Gregg Smith's book "Beer in America: The Early Years" said some of the same things the show did.  I didn't find anything factually incorrect.  Yes, they presented it in a humorous way, but if that makes thing inaccurate. . .
The product placement, shots of the breweries, and some interviews of the head brewer all made me think that, along with the actual commercials being Miller Coors.  But I watched it all, and enjoyed it for the most part.

The Ben Franklin quote about beer has been proven erroneous.  The Pilgrims did not run out of beer, but the ships crew would have on the way back if they had gone to Virginia, so the pilgrims were put off early.  Johns Hopkins was John Hopkins, Emory was Emery, nitpics, I know.

Sam C. is the star of Brewmasters, so I expect lots of DFH.  For a show with no star and more of a documentary premise, I expected something different.


Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on February 01, 2011, 04:34:35 AM
I watched it.
It was entertaining.

One quote was "Lager beer has to be brewed cold"
And how true is that.

Next time I brew lager I will make sure that my boil is cold 212F instead if hot 212F.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: madscientist on February 01, 2011, 04:47:09 AM
I enjoyed it.  Some of the stuff is a stretch to believe, but some other stuff, not so much.  It just goes to show what some companies will say to market their product, and what some consumers will believe.  I laugh every time I hear "Triple Hops Brewed Miller"... OR "Frost Brewed Coors."   
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: phillamb168 on February 01, 2011, 11:11:43 AM
If you missed it (or can't get it) you can download it here:
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/270017201/How+beer+saved+the+world?tab=summary
You'll need bittorrent. I have no qualms downloading this sort of thing as I have no other option available to me to pay for it.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: lazydog79 on February 01, 2011, 04:47:16 PM
Not sure if I'll like the book, but shoot, it's free.  Gotta love free Kindle books!
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: dirk_mclargehuge on February 01, 2011, 06:01:52 PM
I didn't really think of it as an hour long commercial for MillerCoors.  Yes, they advertised on it, and yes they showed a lot of their breweries.  No one here seemed to complain that Brew Masters was a DogFish Head infomercial.

I thought the was quite accurate. Micheal Jackson made the same points about Beer leading to the beginning of civilization. "Bread, Beer and the Seeds of Change" by Thomas and Carol Sinclair described the diet of pre-Industrial peoples as being mainly beer and bread, with the thesis that Civilization owes its existence to beer. Gregg Smith's book "Beer in America: The Early Years" said some of the same things the show did.  I didn't find anything factually incorrect.  Yes, they presented it in a humorous way, but if that makes thing inaccurate. . .
The product placement, shots of the breweries, and some interviews of the head brewer all made me think that, along with the actual commercials being Miller Coors.  But I watched it all, and enjoyed it for the most part.

The Ben Franklin quote about beer has been proven erroneous.  The Pilgrims did not run out of beer, but the ships crew would have on the way back if they had gone to Virginia, so the pilgrims were put off early.  Johns Hopkins was John Hopkins, Emory was Emery, nitpics, I know.

Sam C. is the star of Brewmasters, so I expect lots of DFH.  For a show with no star and more of a documentary premise, I expected something different.




I know the Ben Franklin quote is not correct, but I still see them on t-shirts everywhere.  No biggie for me, since it's part of Pop Culture, like "Beam Me Up, Scotty" which was never said on the show.  I think by saying the crew would have run out of beer on the way home so the pilgrims were dropped off early means they didn't go to Virginia because they were running low on beer.  Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.  They didn't have enough beer, therefore.....

I expected more of Sammy C than the crew at the brewery, that's why I was so disappointed by Brew Masters.  I wanted more than Ace of Cakes in a Brewery. 

I thought the shots of the Miller Brewery to highlight how industrial beer production is was perfectly valid.  Yes, every shot in a store featured MillerCoors, but I spotted a lot of Sierra Nevada taps, too.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 01, 2011, 06:44:51 PM
The corallary to "It must be true, I was it on the inernet."  is "It must be true, I've seen it on a t-shirt."

I have used this, really, I have.   ;)

Like I said, I watched it all.  The part about the historic tatracycline was pretty cool.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: euge on February 01, 2011, 07:56:05 PM
If you missed it (or can't get it) you can download it here:
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/270017201/How+beer+saved+the+world?tab=summary
You'll need bittorrent. I have no qualms downloading this sort of thing as I have no other option available to me to pay for it.

"Torrent has been censored as required by US court." Still there's always the piratebay...
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: Bret on February 01, 2011, 09:42:02 PM
How much do you buy the thesis?  That beer really drove the agricultural revolution, etc.?
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: Tim McManus on February 02, 2011, 02:36:20 AM
How much do you buy the thesis?  That beer really drove the agricultural revolution, etc.?

How often do you look at something and then say to yourself, "I wonder if I can brew beer with that?"
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: phillamb168 on February 02, 2011, 07:35:31 AM
If you missed it (or can't get it) you can download it here:
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/270017201/How+beer+saved+the+world?tab=summary
You'll need bittorrent. I have no qualms downloading this sort of thing as I have no other option available to me to pay for it.

"Torrent has been censored as required by US court." Still there's always the piratebay...

Ah, I forgot that isohunt was blocked in the US. Sorry guys - but alikocho and others in Europe it should work for you.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: uthristy on February 02, 2011, 11:36:18 PM
Ah, I forgot that isohunt was blocked in the US. Sorry guys - but alikocho and others in Europe it should work for you.

Where did you hear that? I'm in Fla and isohunt has never been blocked.
DLoading now at 721kBs

direct torrent link>
http://ca.isohunt.com/download/270017201/How+beer+saved+the+world.torrent

Fast DL and its a good copy.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: dano14041 on February 03, 2011, 03:05:09 AM
If you have a Kindle, the companion book by Charlie Bamforth is free today on Amazon.

Glad you posted this. I was able to get it free today (2/2/11).
I DVR'ed the show, but still haven't watched it.

Not sure if I'll like the book, but shoot, it's free.  Gotta love free Kindle books!

Yay! Free Kindle books! I think around 80% of the books I have on my Kindle are of the Free variety.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: mrbowenz on February 09, 2011, 03:31:57 AM
I think this show was excellent and provided plenty of experts in the field from basic beer bloggers/writers, historians, to scientists , the producers made the show "for the standard idiot to understand" but most of it was solid stuff. Dr. Gregg Smith, Dr. Pat McGovern and Moreen Ogle are no slackers , yes there are assumptions as to the progressions of how people acted and thought about beer, but I wager 90% of what they presented was fact, the human condition is repeated throughout history without a doubt, look what we are doing today, yes, technology is advanced , but the human spirit almost unchanged in thousands of years.

You can watch the whole episode for free on Youtube, just search it , it's in 3 parts commercial free.
Title: Re: How Beer Saved the World
Post by: jamminbrew on February 09, 2011, 03:53:48 AM
I just finished reading Charlie Bamforth's book on kindle.  I fund it entertaining, and fairly informative.  Not a lot on the history of beer, but more on the history of the modern breweries, and how it affects our modern society.  It's not a how to on brewing, no recipes, and it's not an infomercial for any one company. (Although Mr. Bamforth did work for Bass, and was endowed by Anheuser/Busch) I enjoyed the book.  Take it for what its worth.