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Title: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: rabid_dingo on February 01, 2011, 10:03:04 AM
A little back story. I have been to Australia twice and since, I own two Digderidoos. I can play them but have
yet to master the circular breathing. Are they any brewers out there that own instruments that they
own and have mastered or are in the process of mastering?

Please to share.
 :)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: oscarvan on February 01, 2011, 10:11:56 AM
Actually very traditional, but not common, anymore.

(http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Oscar/Hurdy_Gurdy_files/IMG_0399.jpg)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: jaybeerman on February 01, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
Last night I played (with) a very, very, nice concertina.  Damn it was a beautiful instrument, unbelievable sound and capable of much more volume than I would have expected.  Unfortunately I can't afford a concertina that nice.  Currently the only instrument I've mastered is my stereo.  I do own a classical guitar and parts of two steel string acoustics.  Didgeridoos are cool.  
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: phillamb168 on February 01, 2011, 11:07:27 AM
Mouth harp! Which is apparently called a "jew harp" in other parts of the country.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: akr71 on February 01, 2011, 01:25:28 PM
A little back story. I have been to Australia twice and since, I own two Digderidoos. I can play them but have
yet to master the circular breathing. Are they any brewers out there that own instruments that they
own and have mastered or are in the process of mastering?

Please to share.
 :)


I own a digeridoo as well, but can only make it sound like a sick elephant.

I also have a mouth harp made from bamboo that sounds pretty neat.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: corkybstewart on February 01, 2011, 01:27:33 PM
I've been playing the "stereo" for years now and have become quite good at it. ;D
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: nicneufeld on February 01, 2011, 01:29:27 PM
If non-traditional means not-traditional-to-western-cultures, then the one I've come close to would be sitar.  I've so far taken one "lesson" (a workshop with Sandip Berman, fantastic tabla/sitar/voice player who has toured with Bela Fleck among others) and the gentleman was nice enough to offer to let me use his sitar to practice on.  

I'm not sure I'm cut out for sitar though, they are quite challenging to play, even physically.

Maybe Hawaiian lap steel?
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tumarkin on February 01, 2011, 01:31:44 PM
I play the dulcimer (mountain dulcimer), though 'play' is an exageration since I haven't picked it up in several years. should oughta maybe do that. I always enjoy it when I play, though I'm not very good.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: phillamb168 on February 01, 2011, 02:27:07 PM
I play the dulcimer (mountain dulcimer), though 'play' is an exageration since I haven't picked it up in several years. should oughta maybe do that. I always enjoy it when I play, though I'm not very good.

My dad is big into Dulcimer playing, and I love it too. It's one of those instruments that, because of open-chord tuning, sounds good no matter how bad you happen to be - Kinda like a harmonica, where if you haven't been trained you can still do some nice stuff.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: HydraulicSammich on February 01, 2011, 02:54:53 PM
I have on occasion played a blues harp in a band!
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: denny on February 01, 2011, 04:18:34 PM
Actually very traditional, but not common, anymore.

(http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Oscar/Hurdy_Gurdy_files/IMG_0399.jpg)

Is that a psaltry?
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: morticaixavier on February 01, 2011, 05:16:01 PM
nose flute. but not in years. I had a friend who was quite good with a musical saw and I used to play around with that.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: EHall on February 01, 2011, 05:54:45 PM
pink violin
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: euge on February 01, 2011, 07:01:33 PM
Actually very traditional, but not common, anymore.

(http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Oscar/Hurdy_Gurdy_files/IMG_0399.jpg)

Is that a psaltry?

Looks like a Hurdy Gurdy to me.

Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tschmidlin on February 01, 2011, 07:09:34 PM
Looks like a Hurdy Gurdy to me.
That matches what google images finds.  I've never seen one and don't know what they sound like.  The name is vaguely familiar for some reason though - I think from a Beastie Boys song :)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: nicneufeld on February 01, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Well, I've just been educated.  An expensive wheel-bowed folk instrument.  Think bagpipe crossed with a fiddle and harmonium!  Yeah, there's part of me that wants one...but a bit too pricey for me.  I could probably get a sitar plus a sarangi, sarod, or dilruba...   ;D
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: denny on February 01, 2011, 07:33:39 PM
Looks like a Hurdy Gurdy to me.



Ah, yes!
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tumarkin on February 01, 2011, 07:35:26 PM
Looks like a Hurdy Gurdy to me.
That matches what google images finds.  I've never seen one and don't know what they sound like.  The name is vaguely familiar for some reason though - I think from a Beastie Boys song :)
being older, different frame of reference.... it brought to mind an old song by Donovan called Hurdy Gurdy Man
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: denny on February 01, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
being older, different frame of reference.... it brought to mind an old song by Donovan called Hurdy Gurdy Man

You and me both, man!  ACID FLASHBACK!!!!
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: oscarvan on February 01, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
Hurdy Gurdy it is..... and although a good chunk of money, this one was not as expensive as most of them out there. It was built for me by a gentleman in Oregon, in a workshop in his back yard with a wood stove and a solar panel on the roof....

The hg Donovan sings of is actually a barrel organ. (Crank it, it plays a tune, think player piano).

First seen in depictions found in the Iberian peninsula (what is now Spain and Portugal) dating back to 1100 the hg was the street instrument for many centuries. They were also used in churches as the drones are quite good at keeping the congregation in tune. The Notre Dame in Paris has several depicted on the sculpting it has on it's exterior. Louis XIV was a music freak and had them all over the palace cranking at all times....think "rave". Then there was the dark chapter of the Hessian Hurdy Gurdy Girls....read here:

http://www.economypoint.org/h/hurdy-gurdy-girls.html

A piece of American History which is conveniently left out of the books.....

The instrument is still in use in folk music, although in a more modern iteration, in Eastern Europe. And the Swedes have a derivative known as the Nyckelharpa, also still in use in folk music.

I use mine at SCA events and play medieval-ish and later traditional tunes for general entertainment. For those of you that are familiar with the SCA, I particularly have a lot of fun joining the drum circles....the dancers LOVE any melody instrument, and I have sort of mastered a few middle eastern-ish scales that I can vamp for hours. I call it:Drive by taksim.... However, my friends and family have made me promise never to tune it in their presence again. ;D

It can be heard here in a recording/video I threw together and posted to youtube in a camper in about 45 minutes, as a demonstration for my kids, using the hurdy, a dumbek, a macbook running on an inverter and a Sprint wireless card.......it's not as tight as I would like it to be, but it was fun to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzgrK4xjgAg
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: jeffy on February 01, 2011, 09:55:55 PM
being older, different frame of reference.... it brought to mind an old song by Donovan called Hurdy Gurdy Man

You and me both, man!  ACID FLASHBACK!!!!

A bit late, but here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqhxK_g9mrA
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tschmidlin on February 02, 2011, 07:57:18 AM
being older, different frame of reference.... it brought to mind an old song by Donovan called Hurdy Gurdy Man

You and me both, man!  ACID FLASHBACK!!!!

A bit late, but here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqhxK_g9mrA
That song sounded vaguely familiar, so I did some googling.  It turns out that the Beastie Boys song "Car Thief" samples Donovan's Hurdy Gurdy Man, and the lyric that was familiar is

"Space cake cookies I discover who I am
I'm a dusted old bummy Hurdy Gurdy Man"

Listening to it, the sample is very short and comes right after the lyric.

I also found out that the Butthole Surfers covered that song.  It's a good version IMO, but you guys might not like it.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: nicneufeld on February 02, 2011, 01:56:47 PM
Want to some cool non-traditional instruments used in interesting applications?  Go see Steve Howe in concert.  Besides being a phenomenal guitar player, he has a collector's heart and is always using beautiful, interesting old instruments.  The man even has a book out!

http://www.amazon.com/Steve-Howe-Guitar-Collection/dp/0879302909
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: akr71 on February 02, 2011, 02:38:17 PM
I also found out that the Butthole Surfers covered that song.  It's a good version IMO, but you guys might not like it.

You beat me to it.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tubercle on February 02, 2011, 05:27:39 PM
Got a mouth harp but can't play it very well.  My lovely wife bought me a dulcimer for christmas. Its coming along ok, been playing guitar, mandolin & banjo for a while and its simular, just different.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tonyp on February 02, 2011, 05:38:14 PM
Want to some cool non-traditional instruments used in interesting applications?  Go see Steve Howe in concert.  Besides being a phenomenal guitar player, he has a collector's heart and is always using beautiful, interesting old instruments.  The man even has a book out!

http://www.amazon.com/Steve-Howe-Guitar-Collection/dp/0879302909

Steve Howe rocks, I had the pleasure of seeing Asia open for Yes at Six Flags Great Adventure on my birthday in July 2010 and it was one of the most memorable events I've ever witnessed until the lightning and rain started :(  When I was about 8yrs old my best friend's older brother used to play Yes and all of the 60's/70's stuff for us and we got hooked, been a Yes freak every since.

Recently I saw that Jon Anderson was playing this neat little guitar in a video of one of his new songs, its called a Strum Stick (http://www.strumstick.com/), check it out:

Jon Anderson - Under Heaven's Door (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HObQBGKtd6o)

Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tonyp on February 02, 2011, 06:19:32 PM
Oh I forgot, I also play the Doumbek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doumbek), a traditional middle-eastern drum.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/3/6/0/257360.jpg)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: nicneufeld on February 02, 2011, 06:41:43 PM
Steve Howe rocks, I had the pleasure of seeing Asia open for Yes at Six Flags Great Adventure on my birthday in July 2010 and it was one of the most memorable events I've ever witnessed until the lightning and rain started :( 

I saw that tour myself, Benoit David and Rick Wakeman's son Oliver did a surprisingly good job standing in as vocalist and keyboardist, respectively.  Definitely a Howe-centered show, with ASIA and all.  Before that I saw them in 2002, and in 2000.  I'm only 29, so not much before that, sadly.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: theoman on February 02, 2011, 07:46:36 PM
I saw the title of this thread and wondered if didgeridoo was going to be mentioned. I have 6 didges, but really only play 3. I'm not great, but somehow picked up circular breathing pretty quickly. If you ever get into it enough, go see my friend Ben:
http://hickssticks.com/

He made 2 of my sticks and they're awesome.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: alikocho on February 02, 2011, 09:00:11 PM
I played orchestral percussion in high school. Once played on mugs, and once on an anvil.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: oscarvan on February 02, 2011, 10:02:41 PM
Oh I forgot, I also play the Doumbek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doumbek), a traditional middle-eastern drum.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/3/6/0/257360.jpg)



The dumbek is very popular in the SCA....Bang on mine on a semi regular basis....
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: kerneldustjacket on February 02, 2011, 10:16:10 PM
Oh I forgot, I also play the Doumbek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doumbek), a traditional middle-eastern drum.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/3/6/0/257360.jpg)



The dumbek is very popular in the SCA....Bang on mine on a semi regular basis....


Nice! Looks like if you remove the top it can function as a cool chalice for beer! (But I'll bet you'll tell me bottom is open...so bummer  :'()
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tubercle on February 02, 2011, 11:29:57 PM
All these instruments are "traditional" to somebody.

Here's real innovation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOL8-qIYemg
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: corkybstewart on February 03, 2011, 12:46:32 AM
I dona't play anything but my wife can pretty much pick up any stringed instrument and play it well within minutes.  I bought a banjo and starting playing in high school, but dropped it after I moved to NM.  I showed it to her and she was able to play a version of Dueling Banjos with my guitar playing roommate almost effortlessly.  She picked up my great, great , great grandfather's fiddle and layed the Star Spangled Banner at the start of a football game.  Then in a dulcimer shop in Fredricksburg TX she jammed with the store owner even though she had never even heard of the instrument before.
I wish she would get more serious about it(we have the banjo, fiddle, a dulcimer we built, 2 acoustic guitars and an electric one)but she's working on her 2nd consecutive Masters and hasn't had any time for the past 6 years.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: oscarvan on February 03, 2011, 02:27:05 AM
All these instruments are "traditional" to somebody.

Here's real innovation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOL8-qIYemg

As much as I agree that that is very cool, there is a LOT more to the BMG story.... First of all it's a franchise, there are more than 50 blue men these days, and the original three are now management only....

Secondly, the corporation (cause that's what it unfortunately is now) has a long and sordid history of union busting, which at the risk of turning this thread political I won't get in to.

But yes, it is innovative.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: rabid_dingo on February 03, 2011, 04:03:44 AM
If non-traditional means not-traditional-to-western-cultures...

It seems everyone got the gist of the question, what I meant by Non traditional, I meant uncommon, I guess. I am not
sure by what you mean by not-traditional-to-western-cultures. It used to be that not very many instruments were
invented in the USA, most arrived by boat, forced or otherwise then adapted locally. Many instruments "invented"
in the USA for example have precursors across the Atlantic. The piano, for example, is probably not traditional in some
Amazonian villages and their answer to my question could possibly be, "The Piano, It was a @#$% to get it here..."

I did not mean to be vague.

What prompted my question was the Hang Drum
Seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNJswfXKJ3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNJswfXKJ3s)

It's like an inverted steel drum played by hand. Now there are several adaptations slit steel drums, hapi drums and so on.

Or this one The Theremin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJYho56INKU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJYho56INKU)

Recently featured on The Big Bang Theory (TV show for those that don't watch)

I have wanted to get an ocarina too.

Edit:

By the way, I was introduced to the Hurdy Gurdy  Here:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/caroline_phillips_hurdy_gurdy_for_beginners.html (http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/caroline_phillips_hurdy_gurdy_for_beginners.html)






Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tonyp on February 03, 2011, 04:11:34 AM

The dumbek is very popular in the SCA....Bang on mine on a semi regular basis....

heh, I was in the SCA for years before i quit cold-turkey, I think I bought mine at pennsic 12 or whatever one was in 91 or 92...good times...

Tony
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: rabid_dingo on February 03, 2011, 04:16:59 AM
This one is for Denny,

http://www.ted.com/talks/jake_shimabukuro_plays_bohemian_rhapsody.html (http://www.ted.com/talks/jake_shimabukuro_plays_bohemian_rhapsody.html)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: 1vertical on February 03, 2011, 06:18:51 AM
I can mimic songs using a Lilac Leaf....just sayin....  :P
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tschmidlin on February 03, 2011, 06:34:31 AM
This one is for Denny,

http://www.ted.com/talks/jake_shimabukuro_plays_bohemian_rhapsody.html (http://www.ted.com/talks/jake_shimabukuro_plays_bohemian_rhapsody.html)
Is it ok if I listen to it to? :)

That was awesome.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: jaybeerman on February 03, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
Here's real innovation:
this is a pretty good show too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITLYW2WHcwI&feature=related
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: euge on February 03, 2011, 06:24:44 PM
This one is for Denny,

http://www.ted.com/talks/jake_shimabukuro_plays_bohemian_rhapsody.html (http://www.ted.com/talks/jake_shimabukuro_plays_bohemian_rhapsody.html)
Is it ok if I listen to it to? :)

That was awesome.

I've always been partial to his George Harrison rendition of "while my guitar gently weeps": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: tschmidlin on February 03, 2011, 06:41:59 PM
I've always been partial to his George Harrison rendition of "while my guitar gently weeps": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k)
Another good one, thanks euge. :)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: weazletoe on February 03, 2011, 11:45:14 PM
Not very non-traditional, but I am using this a inspirtion to play guitar.  Seems easy enough I could handle it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RmO6fc-FdE
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: oscarvan on February 04, 2011, 03:20:01 AM
This one is for Denny,

http://www.ted.com/talks/jake_shimabukuro_plays_bohemian_rhapsody.html (http://www.ted.com/talks/jake_shimabukuro_plays_bohemian_rhapsody.html)
Is it ok if I listen to it to? :)

That was awesome.

We do that song.... I love it.

Who we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucZXNm4sfHk

Your's truly on keys and vocals....

Scuuuse the plug.... (not a commercial operation.... I mean, we gave up.... we're in it for the fun now.)

I've always been partial to his George Harrison rendition of "while my guitar gently weeps": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: 1vertical on February 05, 2011, 06:17:01 AM
I can mimic songs using a Lilac Leaf....just sayin....  :P
This is not me, but it is unique and well just check it out...kind of the same thing I was trying to convey
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=rjJjF2lBltI&feature=related (http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=rjJjF2lBltI&feature=related)
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on February 05, 2011, 02:19:46 PM
I don't play any non-traditional instruments, but I know people who do.   ;D :P  My cousin's girlfriend is actually a remarkably good didgeridoo player.

I saw one of the (several) members of Arcade Fire playing a hurdy gurdy on stage once.  Very cool instrument.
Title: Re: What "Non Traditional" Instrument do you play?
Post by: dean on February 05, 2011, 07:50:22 PM
I can mimic songs using a Lilac Leaf....just sayin....  :P

I read this and thought ... thats gotta be Tubercle... so you suprised me 1vertical!   :D