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Title: Mystery Box?????
Post by: svha1 on February 06, 2011, 05:40:36 PM
I have a weird situation here.  To set the stage I am fairly new to brewing, have done several extract batches that turned out well, and assisted in a few all grain.  I have been preparing myself for stepping into all grain for a little while now.  This is where things get funny.  I ordered a carboy, cap and airlock from a major online site and when I recieved my packages I had 2 boxes on my door.  One had the correct order for me, the other was full of different all grain bags.  Now, here I faced a situation, and me being a honest guy, decided to call the distributor.  Well since it was considered a perishable item, they could not take it back and told me to brew it.  The problem is, no recipe.  Here is were I need help, if anyone can come up with what to brew from here it would help out alot.  Would hate to see this go to waste.  I know there is at least an oatmeal stout in here, but not sure what else I can come up with.  Anyway here it is..........

1 White Labs California Ale Yeast WL001
1 Private Collection- West York Ale Yeast Wyeast 1469-PC Activator
1lbs Cara Malt (crisp) Crushed
10 lbs. Marris Otter (crisp) crushed
1 lbs. Victory (Briess) crushed
1 lbs. British Chocolate (Simpson's) crushed
.5 lbs. Roasted Barley (Simpson's)
.5 lbs. Dark Crystal (Simpson's) crushed
1 lbs. Flaked Oats crushed
3ea Palisade - Gourmet Hop plug 2oz.
.5 lbs. Flaked Barley crushed
.5 lbs. Rice hulls crushed
.5 lbs. Crystal 50-60L (Simpson's) crushed
10lbs. Halcyon (Thomas Fawcett & Sons) crushed
1 lbs. Golden Promise crushed
2ea. Kent Golding Pellet hops 1oz.


Ok, there it is, can anyone give me a hand and figure out how to utilize all this grain?
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: Slowbrew on February 06, 2011, 05:54:38 PM
I think you have 2 different 5 gallon recipes there.

I'd try to put together an oatmeal stout and and Engilsh bitter.

Off the top of my head, at least.

Paul
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: rabid_dingo on February 06, 2011, 05:58:16 PM
Can you search the website from where it came from? Maybe they list the recipes.
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: tom on February 06, 2011, 06:05:14 PM
I have a weird situation here.  To set the stage I am fairly new to brewing, have done several extract batches that turned out well, and assisted in a few all grain.  I have been preparing myself for stepping into all grain for a little while now.  This is where things get funny.  I ordered a carboy, cap and airlock from a major online site and when I recieved my packages I had 2 boxes on my door.  One had the correct order for me, the other was full of different all grain bags.  Now, here I faced a situation, and me being a honest guy, decided to call the distributor.  Well since it was considered a perishable item, they could not take it back and told me to brew it.  The problem is, no recipe.  Here is were I need help, if anyone can come up with what to brew from here it would help out alot.  Would hate to see this go to waste.  I know there is at least an oatmeal stout in here, but not sure what else I can come up with.  Anyway here it is..........
These are all from the 2nd box, or both?
Looks like 2 recipes, one with Califronia yeast and the other with West York. Of course you could make your own recipe. Anything you've got a hankering to brew?


Oatmeal stout - 5 gallons of 1.086 with 75% efficiency
1 White Labs California Ale Yeast WL001
1lbs Cara Malt (crisp) Crushed
10 lbs. Marris Otter (crisp) crushed
1 lbs. Victory (Briess) crushed
1 lbs. British Chocolate (Simpson's) crushed
.5 lbs. Roasted Barley (Simpson's)
.5 lbs. Dark Crystal (Simpson's) crushed
1 lbs. Flaked Oats crushed
3ea Palisade - Gourmet Hop plug 2oz.
.5 lbs. Flaked Barley crushed
.5 lbs. Rice hulls crushed

British Bitter - 5.5 gallons of 1.055 at 75% efficiency
1 Private Collection- West York Ale Yeast Wyeast 1469-PC Activator
.5 lbs. Crystal 50-60L (Simpson's) crushed
10lbs. Halcyon (Thomas Fawcett & Sons) crushed
1 lbs. Golden Promise crushed
2ea. Kent Golding Pellet hops 1oz.


Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: BrewArk on February 06, 2011, 06:09:52 PM
It's definitely time to step up to all grain or make a friend in a local club.
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: tomsawyer on February 06, 2011, 06:10:59 PM
Score!
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: alikocho on February 06, 2011, 06:14:43 PM
Take this as a sign of fate. You are destined to go all grain with this.
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: svha1 on February 06, 2011, 06:19:06 PM
Yeah, figured it was two batchs.  Tom, looks like you may have hit it there.  Thanks for the help.  And yes it is a score.
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: punatic on February 06, 2011, 06:21:55 PM
Good for you for being honest!  This is the Universe's way of telling you it's time for you to brew all grain beer.  Things happen for a reason.

Be sure to continue giving that homebrew supply store more business!
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: tubercle on February 06, 2011, 06:26:07 PM
Yeah, figured it was two batchs.  Tom, looks like you may have hit it there.  Thanks for the help.  And yes it is a score.

 Or 1 ten gallon batch 8)
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: maxieboy on February 06, 2011, 06:33:25 PM
Maybe the shop can contact the party the ingredients were for, who can then email you the recipes? Worth a shot IMO.
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: oscarvan on February 07, 2011, 07:50:36 AM
So that's where my stuff ended up! No really, honestly....... ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: maxieboy on February 07, 2011, 03:50:19 PM
If it was APA stuff we might believe you... ;)
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: oscarvan on February 08, 2011, 01:08:16 AM
If it was APA stuff we might believe you... ;)

You funny......

OK, so I am doing the Suzuki method of brewing beer..... that doesn't make me a bad person does it?  ;D
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: punatic on February 08, 2011, 01:20:43 AM
If it was APA stuff we might believe you... ;)

You funny......

OK, so I am doing the Suzuki method of brewing beer..... that doesn't make me a bad person does it?  ;D

Rice?
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: oscarvan on February 08, 2011, 01:33:03 AM
No.... the Suzuki method of learning the violin, or cello for that matter, is where you learn ONE tune.... (twinkle twinkle little star) and you play it FIFTY THOUSAND TIMES..... UNTIL YOU GET IT RIGHT.... with variations, and rhythm  changes. With lots of fellow students...

My son played TTLS in Carnegie Hall, with 1259 other violins...... I listened to TTLS a lot.....WAAAAAY too much. But he had fun, and he was proud. So in the end that's what matters.

So, it was a metaphor. I am brewing the same beer over and over for two reasons. 1: I like it, a lot. 2: I want to learn the effects of subtle changes in process and ingredients, all else remaining the same.

I brew other beers too, but this is the main training event.
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: maxieboy on February 08, 2011, 01:51:21 AM
Ah, just havin' fun. It's why we're here. The methodology is sound...
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: gsandel on February 09, 2011, 05:39:42 AM
+1 on Suzuki methods applied to brewing and brewing....and then to drinking, and drinking, and drinking.

I am told it aids with brain development....and makes me better looking.
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: tom on February 09, 2011, 05:42:54 AM
beer goggles are a well proven technology!
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: euge on February 09, 2011, 05:50:22 AM
So, it was a metaphor. I am brewing the same beer over and over for two reasons. 1: I like it, a lot. 2: I want to learn the effects of subtle changes in process and ingredients, all else remaining the same.

I brew other beers too, but this is the main training event.

I'm doing something very similar except I'm switching hops out. Oscar have you noticed any variation- especially since your transition to AG?
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: punatic on February 09, 2011, 08:47:18 AM
When you do the same thing over and over you begin to notice the small stuff that you miss when you change everything each time.  I brewed my all-grain Munich Helles recipe a gozillion times in a row early on in my brewing.  That's when I was able to figure out when starch conversion was complete just by the consistancy of the mash.  It would have taken a lot longer to figure that out if I had brewed a different recipe each time. 

(I prefer to call it the Harley Davidson Method though)   ;)
Title: Re: Mystery Box?????
Post by: oscarvan on February 09, 2011, 12:19:21 PM
So, it was a metaphor. I am brewing the same beer over and over for two reasons. 1: I like it, a lot. 2: I want to learn the effects of subtle changes in process and ingredients, all else remaining the same.

I brew other beers too, but this is the main training event.

I'm doing something very similar except I'm switching hops out. Oscar have you noticed any variation- especially since your transition to AG?

Yes I have noticed variation. But the process has not stabilized yet. I'm all over the road. (Temps, volumes, trub separation) First goal is to do it exactly the same every time. Then start making small changes. Today or tomorrow I'll be doing the fourth AG batch.