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Title: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: brewdog86 on February 23, 2011, 04:31:02 AM
im relativly new to brewing and made a recipie that was a mini mash with 2 pounds or rye and 2 pounds of honey plus amber and dark DME.  just moved it in to the secondary after 14 days and gave it a taste.
at first you could taste the rye and it was pretty strong, then the next taste the honey certainly came through and every taste i took gave me somthing new.
ive never brewed with rye before but im hoping that it tones down a bit and the honey malt comes through more after it chills out in the secondary for 2 weeks.
ANY THOUGHT OR INSIGHT? thanks
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: dmtaylor on February 23, 2011, 11:38:09 AM
Ha ha... it is what it is, and all I can say is... YUM!!
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: brewdog86 on February 23, 2011, 06:33:27 PM
You don't think it's gonna change at all from secondary to bottle?
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: dmtaylor on February 23, 2011, 07:00:55 PM
Probably not much.  I take it you don't like rye.  I guess it's not for everyone.  But a lot of people, like me, do like it.  I don't think it is a very strong flavor, but I haven't used it all that much yet.  Just a couple of times so far.  But both brews were some of the best I've ever made.
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: denny on February 23, 2011, 07:05:59 PM
Are you certain it's the rye you;re tasting that you don't like?
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Post by: euge on February 23, 2011, 08:42:45 PM
Rye is f'ing awesome in beer! Taste tests vs carbonated finished product can be quite different. That's why I advocate force-carbing samples even if only 14 days old.
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: brewdog86 on February 24, 2011, 12:21:12 AM
not that i didnt like the rye, ive never used it before and i cant really remember ever drinking it but i wanted to make somehting with the honey taste and make it kinda spicey thats why i added rye.
the beer has rye, honey malt, 3 lbs amber dme 1 lb dark dme and paradise seeds.  the only thing i can think im drinking is either the rye or paradise seeds.
once again not that i didnt like it , just new and kind of a punch in the face, and i dont wanna guess which flavor im gonna get out of my beer every time i drink it.
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: denny on February 24, 2011, 12:28:40 AM
How much grains of paradise did you use?  That stuff can be pretty intense if you overdo it.
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: brewdog86 on February 24, 2011, 01:06:11 AM
i did a teaspoon the last 5 min of boil for 5 gallons of paradise seeds
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Post by: denny on February 24, 2011, 01:08:06 AM
That seems like quite a bit.  I'll have to check to be sure, though.
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Post by: bluesman on February 24, 2011, 02:44:46 AM
I judged the "War of the Worts" comp last weekend and Dock Street Brewing Co from Philly was there serving their Rye IPA. It had a twang or spicy flavor from the rye with a generous amount of hops and finished kind of dry. I liked it.
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: brewdog86 on February 24, 2011, 03:55:26 AM
ya it defs finishes dry, the rye made up about 25% of my malt which from what i read most beers have about 5-20% rye, from what i found  from my other brews is that it will change from secondary to bottle.
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Post by: dmtaylor on February 24, 2011, 04:06:22 AM
A teaspoon of grains of paradise?  Oh my gosh.  Next time skip the grains of paradise -- that is most likely the slap in the face that you are tasting, NOT the rye.
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: brewdog86 on February 24, 2011, 04:27:51 AM
CORRECTION  it was 1/2 teaspoon. when i saw what you said i knew that couldnt be right cause i followed what i had read on directions for it, so i got off my ass and check my notes and it was 1/2 tsp MY BAD.  could it possibly be the combo of the rye and paradise?
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: euge on February 24, 2011, 05:31:00 AM
My package states 1/2 tsp for 5 gallons of Belgian specialty ale. Since buying I've read elsewhere that only a few grains are sufficient. Is this true? I'm planning on putting them in a wit. Maybe a rye Wit. ;)
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: brewdog86 on February 24, 2011, 05:54:47 PM
 feel like if only a few grains were enough then they wouldnt sell it in 1G or 2G packages
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: brewdog86 on March 02, 2011, 11:14:04 PM
Just bottled the honey rye, final taste before it was bottled was actually really good, smells like honey and starts out sweet then the rye comes in, im pretty happy with it , could be a little fuller. thank you all for your help!!!!
Title: Re: RYE / beer FLAVOR MATURITY
Post by: denny on March 02, 2011, 11:31:11 PM
Good on ya!