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Title: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: gmac on March 13, 2011, 01:30:45 PM
Is there any good brewing software for a Mac?  I checked out Beersmith and ProMash and neither are available for a Mac as far as I can tell.
Please let me know if there's something else I should be looking at.
Thanks
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: a10t2 on March 13, 2011, 03:58:07 PM
There have been quite a few threads about software:
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=406.0
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=4825.0
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=5730.0

Including at least one specifically about Mac software:
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=4855.0
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: The Professor on March 13, 2011, 07:31:02 PM
Refer to the above quoted threads by all means, but in a nutshell,  just look for BEER ALCHEMY.
Reasonably priced, very editable/customizable and very Mac.  
Written from the ground up by a Mac user for Mac users.

I don't rely on software too much to tell me what I should be doing (my tastebuds do that better than the software can) but the software can be useful for sharing recipes, scaling them, and doing rough calculations.

Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: Kirk on March 13, 2011, 08:02:20 PM
I've been using Homebrew Formulator for two years now, like it a lot.
Here's a link:  http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/20249/homebrew-formulator
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: dzlater on March 14, 2011, 04:02:02 AM
I have been using this
http://sourceforge.net/projects/brewtarget/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/brewtarget/)
It works fairly well once you figure it out.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: oscarvan on March 14, 2011, 06:08:59 AM
I have been using this
http://sourceforge.net/projects/brewtarget/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/brewtarget/)
It works fairly well once you figure it out.


Got Beer Alchemy all set up including the link to the iphone..... and don't use it. I have a ring binder and make "numbers" spreadsheets for each batch. It's just handier to have paper to look at or jot a time down than it is a laptop. What I do have and use all the time is an iPhone app called BrewMath.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: gmac on March 14, 2011, 08:33:54 AM
Thanks everyone.
What I'm really after is a method for figuring out my strike temperature for the water that will be added to my grain.  I sort of "winged it" last time and it didn't go as well as I would have hoped.  I know ProMash is supposed to help calculate this.  Besides that, I don't think I'd be using a calculator for too much.  I have used BeerTools on-line before to get a sense of how an idea compares to the standards for that style but I'm not really looking to re-create styles yet as much as perfect a plain pale ale.
I'll check all of these out.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: jeffy on March 14, 2011, 08:40:08 AM
I always use this:
http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml

Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: gmac on March 14, 2011, 09:01:22 AM
Thanks Jeffy.  That's what I was needing.  
I just played around with it for a few minutes (I really have to stop thinking about beer when I should be working) and it is interesting to see that the volume of water has much more impact than the temp of the grains.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: Hokerer on March 14, 2011, 09:50:22 AM
it is interesting to see that the volume of water has much more impact than the temp of the grains.

The impact is based on weight (mass, actually) and the weight of the water far exceeds the weight of the grain.  In addition, the specific heat (or heat capacity, can never keep them straight) of water is 1.00 so you get 100% of the benefit of it's heat.  The same value for grain is around .38-.40 so you only get about 40% of the benefit of it's heat.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: maxieboy on March 14, 2011, 10:05:31 AM
Easy ROT w/ room temp grains and preheated mashtun: strike temp = desired mash temp + 13. Units in *F.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: jeffy on March 14, 2011, 10:20:00 AM
Easy ROT w/ room temp grains and preheated mashtun: strike temp = desired mash temp + 13. Units in *F.

Yeah, but what about the mash thickness?  I would change quite a bit from 1 Qt/# to 2 Qt/#.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: narvin on March 14, 2011, 11:18:56 AM
Can't you install Wine and run ProMash on Mac?  I do it on Linux.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: gmac on March 14, 2011, 11:44:54 AM
Can't you install Wine and run ProMash on Mac?  I do it on Linux.
I can barely turn the thing on.  Not much of a computer person so unless it's easy and straightforward, I'm at a loss.  I'm sure it's good advice but I have no idea what Wine is.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: saintpierre on March 14, 2011, 11:55:15 AM
I ran into the same issue about a year or so ago. I went with beer tools and am happy with it. I still do hand calcs but that may be the engineer in me... ;D
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: tumarkin on March 14, 2011, 12:12:14 PM
Can't you install Wine and run ProMash on Mac?  I do it on Linux.
I can barely turn the thing on.  Not much of a computer person so unless it's easy and straightforward, I'm at a loss.  I'm sure it's good advice but I have no idea what Wine is.
Wine is a windows emulator, allowing you to run windows apps on your mac. dosn't require you to actually load windows on the mac.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: dzlater on March 14, 2011, 12:37:11 PM
Easy ROT w/ room temp grains and preheated mashtun: strike temp = desired mash temp + 13. Units in *F.

Yeah, but what about the mash thickness?  I would change quite a bit from 1 Qt/# to 2 Qt/#.

Try this

[ ( 0.2 / QRTS PER LB ) * ( MASH TEMP - GRAIN TEMP ) + MASH TEMP  ] = STRIKE WATER TEMP

THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HEAT LOSS DUE TO MASH TUN THERMAL MASS
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: colinhayes on March 14, 2011, 05:07:12 PM
Look for a program called WineBottler.  It'll make a bootable app out of beersmith that requires no knowledge of wine. http://www.wells-inc.com/howto-beersmith-on-a-mac-with-wine (http://www.wells-inc.com/howto-beersmith-on-a-mac-with-wine) for directions on using winebottler.

or just go with beeralchemy, it works great for me.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: oscarvan on March 14, 2011, 07:55:13 PM
Thanks everyone. What I'm really after is a method for figuring out my strike temperature for the water that will be added to my grain.

The BrewMath app does that....
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: gmac on March 14, 2011, 09:47:32 PM
Thanks everyone. What I'm really after is a method for figuring out my strike temperature for the water that will be added to my grain.

The BrewMath app does that....
Thanks Oscarvan.

Brewmath hs now been downloaded to my iPod.  Now I just have to spend some time checking it out.  Another unproductive day at work I guess...
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: skyler on March 15, 2011, 08:30:25 AM
Beer Tools (beertools.com) runs on a mac, and I know several people who swear by it, though I use beer alchemy.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on March 15, 2011, 06:53:15 PM
Can't you install Wine and run ProMash on Mac?  I do it on Linux.
Way to go!!!
I do it to that way.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: maxieboy on March 15, 2011, 07:09:06 PM
Easy ROT w/ room temp grains and preheated mashtun: strike temp = desired mash temp + 13. Units in *F.

Yeah, but what about the mash thickness?  I would change quite a bit from 1 Qt/# to 2 Qt/#.

Whoops, @ 1.3qts/lb.
Title: Re: Brewing Software for Mac
Post by: pfooti on March 26, 2011, 04:54:25 PM
I use beertools pro on the mac. I'm fairly satisfied with it; it's overly complex and has a few niggly issues, but overall it does a good job at predicting things like strike temp and so on, once you have calibrated everything.

You can also use BeerPal for the iDevice. It costs like $0.99. I bought it and use it to mark down recipes when the inspiration strikes me. It also does a decent job at strike water temp and sparge volume predictions.

Finally, there's also the rackers calculators linked earlier in this thread. They're pretty good, but the formula there just assumes a 3F drop from the thermal mass of your tun. Not that big of a deal, especially once you've brewed a few times, as you'll quickly figure out your own fudge factor.