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Title: Lunar Perigee
Post by: pinnah on March 17, 2011, 06:47:29 PM
"On March 19th, a full Moon of rare size and beauty will rise in the east at sunset.
It's a super "perigee moon"--the biggest in almost 20 years".

Check this LINK (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/16mar_supermoon/) from NASA.


I love me a fat full moon just rising.  Sounds like a good reason to hoist one. 8)

Cheers to clear weather.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: euge on March 17, 2011, 07:01:32 PM
"On March 19th, a full Moon of rare size and beauty will rise in the east at sunset.
It's a super "perigee moon"--the biggest in almost 20 years".

Check this LINK (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/16mar_supermoon/) from NASA.


I love me a fat full moon just rising.  Sounds like a good reason to hoist one. 8)

Cheers to clear weather.

And I will! Unfortunately the forecast is cloudy cloudy cloudy. :(
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 17, 2011, 07:21:42 PM
"On March 19th, a full Moon of rare size and beauty will rise in the east at sunset.
It's a super "perigee moon"--the biggest in almost 20 years".

Check this LINK (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/16mar_supermoon/) from NASA.


I love me a fat full moon just rising.  Sounds like a good reason to hoist one. 8)

Cheers to clear weather.

And I will! Unfortunately the forecast is cloudy cloudy cloudy. :(
Bah . . . forecast is rainy here, looks like I'll miss it too.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: phillamb168 on March 17, 2011, 07:36:56 PM
Hey, neat! Thanks for the heads-up, I'll break out the binocs.

Speaking of binoculars, did you know the word for female twins and binoculars is the same in French? Jumelles.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: pinnah on March 17, 2011, 08:19:35 PM
Bi Noculars is so much more descriptive, although Jumelles just sounds like female twins... :)



(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/Moon.jpg)


Sweet.  Maybe a10t2 can tell us why it looks bigger, and the vertical1 can tell us why the world might end. ;D ;)

Prost.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 17, 2011, 08:20:11 PM
Isn't that the word for double trouble?

You know, Stevie Ray Vaughn and the Jumelles...  :D
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: a10t2 on March 17, 2011, 08:23:05 PM
Sweet.  Maybe a10t2 can tell us why it looks bigger, and the vertical1 can tell us why the world might end. ;D ;)

I was going to, but now I think my feelings are too hurt. :'(
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: Hokerer on March 17, 2011, 08:41:10 PM
Speaking of binoculars, did you know the word for female twins and binoculars is the same in French? Jumelles.

Does that mean "a female's twins" or "two females that are twins" ?  :)
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: beersk on March 17, 2011, 09:34:55 PM
Well raise my rent...
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: BrewingRover on March 17, 2011, 09:48:52 PM
Bah . . . forecast is rainy here, looks like I'll miss it too.

Rain in the PNW in March? Get out  :P

Looks like we'll have a good view here in Chicagoland. Should be cool.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 18, 2011, 12:15:14 AM
Bah . . . forecast is rainy here, looks like I'll miss it too.

Rain in the PNW in March? Get out  :P

Looks like we'll have a good view here in Chicagoland. Should be cool.
Hey, it's not raining right now!  It's been dry since this morning! ;D
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: bluesman on March 18, 2011, 02:09:31 AM
There's a 40% chance of rain on the mid-atlantic coast but I'll be looking for it in any event.

Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tubercle on March 18, 2011, 02:49:27 AM
Speaking of binoculars, did you know the word for female twins and binoculars is the same in French? Jumelles.

Does that mean "a female's twins" or "two females that are twins" ?  :)

 It has to be "two" females that are twins.

 If it was three they would be triplets. :D
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: rbclay on March 18, 2011, 03:33:38 AM
Brewing during a full moon has always been a great excuse for me. And I start a weeks vacation after work tomorrow! Fire up the kettles!
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: 1vertical on March 18, 2011, 04:51:02 AM
Bi Noculars is so much more descriptive, although Jumelles just sounds like female twins... :)
Sweet.  Maybe a10t2 can tell us why it looks bigger, and the vertical1 can tell us why the world might end. ;D ;)

Prost.

Because.....Everything seems finite except the infinite....

8 days till I go on Vacation as well.  Speed you gonna be home???...headin thru NE
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: euge on March 20, 2011, 01:45:36 AM
Stupendous orange and very large moon rose above the horizon as the sun was setting. My phone proves inadequate to capture the image. No clouds at all.

I hope to see it again sometime.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: a10t2 on March 20, 2011, 03:19:36 AM
Clear blue skies all day, then the clouds rolled in about 6:00. They're bringing snow though, so I don't want to complain too much.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 20, 2011, 07:18:52 AM
Awesome full moon here tonight, the skies were clear and bright, just a slight halo around the moon.  Not the biggest it's ever appeared, but it's got to be pretty high here to be visible above the trees.  Fantastic though!
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tygo on March 20, 2011, 11:21:42 AM
It was bright and clear but not much bigger than it usually appears here.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: uthristy on March 20, 2011, 11:44:03 AM
Stupendous orange and very large moon rose above the horizon as the sun was setting.

Those quite simply, descriptive words are just what I saw lastnite
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 20, 2011, 12:55:29 PM
(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1103/LunarParthenon_ayiomamitis.jpg)
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: Mark G on March 20, 2011, 01:24:39 PM
Nice picture. It was cloudy here, so I didn't see anything. What building is that?
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: bluesman on March 20, 2011, 02:55:55 PM
Absolutely beautiful moon last night. It was really clear so the moon was super bright and lit up the sky.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: a10t2 on March 20, 2011, 03:03:54 PM
What building is that?

Looks like the Acropolis at Athens.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 20, 2011, 03:23:43 PM
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from Shaquile O'Neal:

A reporter was interviewing Shaq on his return from a visit to Greece,
"Shaq, did you get to go to the Parthenon while you were in Athens?"
" I don't know. I can't really remember the names of the clubs that we went to."
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 21, 2011, 04:47:13 PM
Well, the world survived another epic solunar opposition with no ill effects (unless you count Operation Odyssey Dawn).

Yawn...
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: beersk on March 21, 2011, 06:48:49 PM
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from Shaquile O'Neal:

A reporter was interviewing Shaq on his return from a visit to Greece,
"Shaq, did you get to go to the Parthenon while you were in Athens?"
" I don't know. I can't really remember the names of the clubs that we went to."

hahaha, what a doofus!
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 21, 2011, 07:12:52 PM
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from Shaquile O'Neal:

A reporter was interviewing Shaq on his return from a visit to Greece,
"Shaq, did you get to go to the Parthenon while you were in Athens?"
" I don't know. I can't really remember the names of the clubs that we went to."

hahaha, what a doofus!

Yeah, you've got his number.   I lived in Orlando when Shaq played for the Magic.  He was a regular font of wisdom.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: pinnah on March 21, 2011, 07:56:27 PM
Well, the world survived another epic solunar opposition with no ill effects.

Yawn...

yep, just on to a waning gibbous now.

All this moonlanguage makes me sleepy :P
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 21, 2011, 08:54:16 PM
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from Shaquile O'Neal:

A reporter was interviewing Shaq on his return from a visit to Greece,
"Shaq, did you get to go to the Parthenon while you were in Athens?"
" I don't know. I can't really remember the names of the clubs that we went to."

hahaha, what a doofus!

Yeah, you've got his number.   I lived in Orlando when Shaq played for the Magic.  He was a regular font of wisdom.
I wish I could remember the interview where he was making for of some other player and then tried to spell a word and spelled it wrong.  It wasn't exactly a tough word to spell either.  Hilarious, from the look on his face he knew he shouldn't have tried to spell.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 21, 2011, 09:57:20 PM
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from Shaquile O'Neal:

A reporter was interviewing Shaq on his return from a visit to Greece,
"Shaq, did you get to go to the Parthenon while you were in Athens?"
" I don't know. I can't really remember the names of the clubs that we went to."

hahaha, what a doofus!

Yeah, you've got his number.   I lived in Orlando when Shaq played for the Magic.  He was a regular font of wisdom.
I wish I could remember the interview where he was making for of some other player and then tried to spell a word and spelled it wrong.  It wasn't exactly a tough word to spell either.  Hilarious, from the look on his face he knew he shouldn't have tried to spell.

I saw that.  Shaq had just announced he was going to Miami to play for the Heat.
"The people that know me they know what time it is and what the Diesel is coming to do, period, P-U-R-E-U-D, period."
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 21, 2011, 10:05:31 PM
I saw that.  Shaq had just announced he was going to Miami to play for the Heat.
"The people that know me they know what time it is and what the Diesel is coming to do, period, P-U-R-E-U-D, period."
That's it!  Fantastic, I misremembered the context but it is still awesome.  ;D

No wonder I had trouble googling it. ::)
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 12:25:18 AM
Don't you know he makes the academic types at LSU proud that he is an alum.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tubercle on March 22, 2011, 04:15:25 AM
What is the correct way to pronounce Perigee?

And what's the opposite, Apogee?

 How is that pronounced?

Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 04:22:44 AM
You can listen to pronunciations at m-w.com
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perigee

I say PEHR-uh-jee and APP-uh-jee, I think it's right.

Yes, perigee and apogee are opposites, the point in the orbit that is closest (perigee) or furthest (apogee) from the Earth.  I knew that orbital mechanics class I took in college would come in handy.*


*I never knew it would come in handy.

<edit> fixed typo, both are soft gee (jee) sounds
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tubercle on March 22, 2011, 04:43:41 AM
Thanks, I was saying it right. (Ms. Tubercle and I were discussing this).

 I had the accents in the right place but didn't know if it was a soft G - jee - or a hard GEE sound.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 04:46:06 AM
You can listen to pronunciations at m-w.com
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perigee

I say PEHR-uh-jee and APP-uh-gee, I think it's right.

Yes, perigee and apogee are opposites, the point in the orbit that is closest (perigee) or furthest (apogee) from the Earth.  I knew that orbital mechanics class I took in college would come in handy.*


*I never knew it would come in handy.

peri (near) ge (gaia [earth])

+1 on OM,  and my dynamics class too (the triple integrals and linear equations were brutal)
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tubercle on March 22, 2011, 04:57:59 AM
Wasn't it that Kepler feller that came up with that stuff? Seems like I remember a little about it. Ellipses and foci and such.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 05:12:56 AM
I believe Newton and Liebniz invented it simultaneously, and independantly.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: 1vertical on March 22, 2011, 05:19:23 AM
Can anyone demonstrate what One Newton of force is? I mean
since we are talking about ole Isaac....
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 05:27:26 AM
1N = force required to accelerate a mass of one kilogram at a rate of one meter per second squared.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 05:29:26 AM
1N = force required to accelerate a mass of one kilogram at a rate of one meter per second squared.
But he asked for a demonstration . . . ;D
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 05:31:08 AM
Wasn't it that Kepler feller that came up with that stuff? Seems like I remember a little about it. Ellipses and foci and such.

Kepler determined the laws of planetary motion, based largely on Tycho Brahe's meticulous observational data if I remember it right.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 05:38:38 AM
1N = force required to accelerate a mass of one kilogram at a rate of one meter per second squared.
But he asked for a demonstration . . . ;D

OK mister smarty pants; what does this equal:

Newton-meters per second squared?

And how many are now missing in Fukushima?
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 05:59:00 AM
OK mister smarty pants; what does this equal:

Newton-meters per second squared?

And how many are now missing in Fukushima?
Crap, it's been too long.  Newton meter is a unit of torque . . . per second makes it work . . . per second makes it power.  So it's a power measurement.  Maybe. :)

Fukushima . . . I don't know, I haven't been keeping up with the story.  A lot.

<edit>Torque is work, so I'm off for sure.  So it's power per second . . . that's weird.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: 1vertical on March 22, 2011, 05:59:24 AM
1N = force required to accelerate a mass of one kilogram at a rate of one meter per second squared.
But he asked for a demonstration . . . ;D

OK mister smarty pants; what does this equal:

Newton-meters per second squared?

And how many are now missing in Fukushima?
<<<<Guessing the rate of acceleration of a body under the pull of gravity???
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 06:03:05 AM
Watts

4.7 GWe

nanny, nanny, boo boo!   ;)

(says the guy with 15 years of power plant experience)

Oops, divided by one too many seconds.  
Watts are Joules per second or kg-meters squared per second cubed, which makes it Newton-meters per second.
So nanny nanny it's my boo boo. :-[
My engineering physics professor would be disappointed.  He pummeled us mercilessly with derived units and units conversions.

Guess I was having a Shaq moment...  (does Shaq drink Bigfoot?)
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: jeffy on March 22, 2011, 11:52:15 AM
Watts

4.7 GWe

nanny, nanny, boo boo!   ;)

(says the guy with 15 years of power plant experience)

Oops, divided by one too many seconds.  
Watts are Joules per second or kg-meters squared per second cubed, which makes it Newton-meters per second.
So nanny nanny it's my boo boo. :-[
My engineering physics professor would be disappointed.  He pummeled us mercilessly with derived units and units conversions.

Guess I was having a Shaq moment...  (does Shaq drink Bigfoot?)
Shaq IS Bigfoot.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 12:00:25 PM
Hah!  Good one Jeff!
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: 1vertical on March 22, 2011, 02:12:17 PM
Ok in laymans terms I still need a demonstration to understand
1vertical<<<<<dense

Edit: 22000 missing or dead in the Fukushima events
Edit again: This number is probably for all of Japan...sorry for the confusion
me<<<<dense
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: a10t2 on March 22, 2011, 02:52:56 PM
Edit: 22000 missing or dead in the Fukushima events

Wait, what? What happened? I can't find this story anywhere.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: 1vertical on March 22, 2011, 04:05:53 PM
Edit: 22000 missing or dead in the Fukushima events

Wait, what? What happened? I can't find this story anywhere.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/03/21/japan-quake-leaves-22000-dead-missing/  (http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/03/21/japan-quake-leaves-22000-dead-missing/)
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 04:19:48 PM
Oops, divided by one too many seconds.  
So what is a W/s, and what is it used for?

Edit: 22000 missing or dead in the Fukushima events
Is that for Japan or just Fukushima?

Ok in laymans terms I still need a demonstration to understand
Do you need someone to push you? ;D  What kind of demonstration are you looking for?  It's more confusing in English units when you start talking about lbs-force.

1 N = 1 kg m/s^2

The acceleration due to gravity is G = 9.81 m/s^2, so 1 N/G  = 1/9.81 kg, or ~102 grams, which is ~3.6 ounces.  This means 1 Newton is the force required for you to keep 3.6 ounces from falling, and ~3 Newtons might have been needed for Isaac to hold the apple that hit his head (assuming it was an average eating apple, there's a lot of slop there ;D ).
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: 1vertical on March 22, 2011, 04:25:46 PM
You are right Tom I think that is for all of Japan....
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: uthristy on March 22, 2011, 04:27:09 PM
1 N = 1 kg m/s^2

The acceleration due to gravity is G = 9.81 m/s^2, so 1 N/G  = 1/9.81 kg, or ~102 grams, which is ~3.6 ounces.  This means 1 Newton is the force required for you to keep 3.6 ounces from falling, and ~3 Newtons might have been needed for Isaac to hold the apple that hit his head (assuming it was an average eating apple, there's a lot of slop there ;D ).

Bunch of nerds in here :D
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
Bunch of nerds in here :D
Guilty :)
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: a10t2 on March 22, 2011, 05:12:28 PM
You are right Tom I think that is for all of Japan....

OK, I hadn't had my coffee yet and you scared the crap out of me. :o
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 05:14:51 PM
Bunch of nerds in here :D
Guilty :)

I had a friend named Julia.  Everybody called her Jules, so I called her Newton Meters.  Everyone that was nerdy, but Julia liked it.

The missing I was asking about is the lost generation capacity at the Dai-ichi facility.

4.7 GW. =  4,700,000,000 Watts
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: tschmidlin on March 22, 2011, 05:44:09 PM
I had a friend named Julia.  Everybody called her Jules, so I called her Newton Meters.  Everyone that was nerdy, but Julia liked it.
I like it too :)

The missing I was asking about is the lost generation capacity at the Dai-ichi facility.

4.7 GW. =  4,700,000,000 Watts
That's almost enough power for 4 flux capacitors!
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: Hokerer on March 22, 2011, 05:45:55 PM
That's almost enough power for 4 flux capacitors!

Yeah, what's that in Jigawatts?

Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: a10t2 on March 22, 2011, 06:09:59 PM
That's what always bothered me about those movies. Doc Brown figured out how to get a power plant's worth of energy from a chunk of plutonium the size of a crayon, and instead of solving the world's energy problems, he just builds a time machine that he only lets one other person use? Selfish SOB.
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: denny on March 22, 2011, 06:31:32 PM
  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lunar Perigee
Post by: punatic on March 24, 2011, 08:02:20 AM
(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1103/Moonrise2DdiC.jpg)