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Title: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: phillamb168 on March 18, 2011, 01:21:53 PM
Not necessarily going to stay that way, but it's good enough for now... Maybe Ghadaffi got a glimpse of some of those shiny brand-new F-22s on the tarmac in Turkey...
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: nicneufeld on March 18, 2011, 01:27:19 PM
That tiger blood ran cold I guess!  This is a nice, and somewhat unexpected bit of news.  Everybody over there RDWHAHB (tea I imagine...).  :D
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: euge on March 18, 2011, 05:34:28 PM
But reports are that it's just lip service on Ghadaffi's part. The fighting continues...

Maybe we can get his tent this time.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on March 20, 2011, 02:34:29 AM
And who pays for it?
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: nicneufeld on March 20, 2011, 12:47:36 PM
And who pays for it?

122 cruise missiles at 750K apiece...ah well, we bought em to use em I guess!   :o   ;D
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 20, 2011, 12:57:02 PM
And who pays for it?

122 cruise missiles at 750K apiece...ah well, we bought em to use em I guess!   :o   ;D

They just used the ones that were past their expiration date anyway.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: corkybstewart on March 20, 2011, 05:40:52 PM
Today I heard that some of the Gulf states will be paying for a lot of it.  We'll see.
I bet now that there is some pushback most of Quadaffi's mercenaries will be headed home.  They signed on to attack peasants armed with pitchforks, not NATO ships and planes.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 21, 2011, 02:07:23 AM
Operation Odyssey Dawn

"Well, isn't that special?"
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: euge on March 21, 2011, 02:55:42 AM
Is it just me or is there something seriously wrong with Ghadaffi's face? Like a face-lift gone bad. Or some weird bloating or overdone botox-collagen procedure. Yes Doctor. I want you to make me look like I'm about to go into anaphyletic shock.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 21, 2011, 03:09:00 AM
Is it just me or is there something seriously wrong with Ghadaffi's face? Like a face-lift gone bad. Or some weird bloating or overdone botox-collagen procedure. Yes Doctor. I want you to make me look like I'm about to go into anaphyletic shock.

Mutations from using the dark-side of The Force.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: euge on March 21, 2011, 03:17:29 AM
Yes young Muammar, only with the dark side of the Force can you realize true power...
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: beersk on March 21, 2011, 06:50:44 PM
Durka durka, bakala...
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: pinnah on March 21, 2011, 08:11:19 PM
Some pretty amazing photos out there, like this one from Goran Tomasevic.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/ceasefire.jpg)


"Vehicles belonging to forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi explode after an air strike by coalition forces, along a road between Benghazi and Ajdabiyah March 20. (Goran Tomasevic/Reuters) "

Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: oscarvan on March 21, 2011, 08:58:17 PM
I bet now that there is some pushback most of Quadaffi's mercenaries will be headed home.  They signed on to attack peasants armed with pitchforks, not NATO ships and planes.

I was thinking the same thing. Mercenary rule # 1 Do NOT eff with the Americans.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: Slowbrew on March 21, 2011, 09:57:00 PM
These things never seem to stay air only operations for very long.  

Maybe the rest of the world will put the boots on the ground this time.  Instead of gladly signing contracts for mineral rights and industrial sales while stating they don't have the support of their people to be able to contribute troops.

Paul

Edit:  Sorry, I let my political opinion slip.  I formally apologize for the comment (although I don't withdraw it). 
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: nicneufeld on March 22, 2011, 12:31:59 PM
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/ceasefire.jpg)
Vehicles belonging to forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi explode after an air strike by coalition forces

Ah man, it looks like we struck Achmed's No-Money-Down Used Car Lot or something.  Are we sure this isn't a variant spin-off of Cash for Clunkers?
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: majorvices on March 22, 2011, 01:10:16 PM


Ah man, it looks like we struck Achmed's No-Money-Down Used Car Lot or something.  Are we sure this isn't a variant spin-off of Cash for Clunkers?

ROTF!  :D
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 01:26:08 PM


Ah man, it looks like we struck Achmed's No-Money-Down Used Car Lot or something.  Are we sure this isn't a variant spin-off of Cash for Clunkers?

ROTF!  :D

+1. Too funny!

I'll bet Mitch Rapp approves!  Hell, I'll bet he's the point-man on Operation Odyssey Dawn.  I'll also bet that he didn't come up with that name.  Wots up widdat?!  Sounds like a spin-off group from Tony Orlando or summat...
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: phillamb168 on March 22, 2011, 01:35:50 PM
F15 had 'mechanical problems,' pilot & weapons tech ejected, safely in coalition hands now.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
F15 had 'mechanical problems,' pilot & weapons tech ejected, safely in coalition hands now.

Naval Aviators... ::)
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: nicneufeld on March 22, 2011, 02:22:19 PM
F-15 is AFAIK USAF only.  Sounds like there was a "sea eagle" variant at some point, but I imagine most carrier strikes are FA-18s now, right?
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: phillamb168 on March 22, 2011, 02:35:05 PM
F-15 is AFAIK USAF only.  Sounds like there was a "sea eagle" variant at some point, but I imagine most carrier strikes are FA-18s now, right?

Do you mean strike eagle? The downed plane was an F15 Strike Eagle. Dunno about Sea Eagles.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: nicneufeld on March 22, 2011, 05:44:46 PM
Yeah, the Sea Eagle was apparently a USN variant but I'm not sure how widely it was used or if it remains in service.  The Strike Eagle is USAF.  Just vindicating the honor of our naval pilots!   ;D
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 22, 2011, 06:36:42 PM
Yeah, the Sea Eagle was apparently a USN variant but I'm not sure how widely it was used or if it remains in service.  The Strike Eagle is USAF.  Just vindicating the honor of our naval pilots!   ;D
I had to look this one up.  The F-15N was a variant proposed for the Navy when the F-14 Tomcat was having development problems.  None were ever built from what I can see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-15_Eagle
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 22, 2011, 10:09:03 PM
Yeah, the Sea Eagle was apparently a USN variant but I'm not sure how widely it was used or if it remains in service.  The Strike Eagle is USAF.  Just vindicating the honor of our naval pilots!   ;D

Hey, F14 Tomcat - F15 Eagle... sounds so much alike it's an easy mistake to make (if you've been drinking Bigfoot).  They're both nose-heavy, twin-engine, two-seaters...

It's hard to resist taking a dig at those guys who spend all of their time practicing short takeoffs and landings.   ;D
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 23, 2011, 12:16:23 AM
A buddy in college was a RIO in an F4 after graduation.  He only did the 4 years.  By the time he was 2 years or so in half of the guys in his flight school class were dead from various crashes.  He decided an engineering career would be better for long term survival.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: weazletoe on March 23, 2011, 06:04:26 AM
I'll bet Mitch Rapp approves!  Hell, I'll bet he's the point-man on Operation Odyssey Dawn. 

Two years ago, I never even cracked a book. Today, I seem to be the only guy on the board who gets the Vince Flynn reference. I owe it all to a bunch of drunken homebrewers. And most of all, to Major, for suggesting I read Lonesome Dove. That was the book that got me into books. Thanks Major!  ;D

  (and now back to your regularly scheduled topic)
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: phillamb168 on March 23, 2011, 07:14:35 AM
I'll bet Mitch Rapp approves!  Hell, I'll bet he's the point-man on Operation Odyssey Dawn. 

Two years ago, I never even cracked a book. Today, I seem to be the only guy on the board who gets the Vince Flynn reference. I owe it all to a bunch of drunken homebrewers. And most of all, to Major, for suggesting I read Lonesome Dove. That was the book that got me into books. Thanks Major!  ;D

  (and now back to your regularly scheduled topic)

Eh? Lonesome Dove?
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 23, 2011, 07:30:27 AM
I'll bet Mitch Rapp approves!  Hell, I'll bet he's the point-man on Operation Odyssey Dawn. 

Two years ago, I never even cracked a book. Today, I seem to be the only guy on the board who gets the Vince Flynn reference. I owe it all to a bunch of drunken homebrewers. And most of all, to Major, for suggesting I read Lonesome Dove. That was the book that got me into books. Thanks Major!  ;D

  (and now back to your regularly scheduled topic)

Vince Flynn wrote Lonesome Dove?
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: weazletoe on March 23, 2011, 07:13:10 PM
  Dude, the whole Lonesome Dove series still has to be some of the best books I've read. Hands down. Love them. Just getting into Vince Flynn. Reading Extreme Measures right now. Along the same lines is Whitley Strieber. Critical Mass was great! Also really into Nelson DeMille. If you have not read The Lion's Game, and The Lion, you are really missing out.
  But, it was Major, and his suggestion to read Lonesome Dove that got me into reading books at all. I read that, and never realized how cool reading could be. Read the other three books in the series, and just kept finding new authors from there.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 23, 2011, 07:41:49 PM
I am fortunate to come from a family of readers.  I started reading books in the first grade.  I wanted to learn ASAP cause i wanted to see what my older sister was always so facinated with.

I married into a family of readers too.  My 11 year old son has a double whammy reading gene.  He reads all the time.  He wants to be a writer too.  You should have seen his face light up when I told him that the best way to learn how to write is to read as much as possible; see how it's done by those who are successful at it.

I mentioned Mitch Rapp because, as I'm sure you know, he was recruited into the covert services after his girlfriend died aboard Pan Am 103.

I am a big fan of the series.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: weazletoe on March 23, 2011, 10:47:38 PM
 This is actually my first Mitch Rapp book, or Vince Flynn for that matter. what book starts the series? Mitch is a pretty cool charecter. No John Corey, but I still like the dude.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 23, 2011, 11:28:29 PM
This is actually my first Mitch Rapp book, or Vince Flynn for that matter. what book starts the series? Mitch is a pretty cool charecter. No John Corey, but I still like the dude.

Transfer of Power

Should read them in the order they were published if you can.  They make more sense that way.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: weazletoe on March 24, 2011, 01:47:09 AM
I'm on it right now. My apologies to the OP for the derail .  8)
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on March 24, 2011, 07:08:32 AM
I'm on it right now. My apologies to the OP for the derail .  8)

No derail.  Moamar Gadafi brought down Pan Am 103.  Mitch Rapp is gettin' some payback...
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: euge on May 14, 2011, 06:32:11 AM
Maybe the dude's hurt now. The news suspects he is.

Anyway, I think I've figured out what has been bothering me about Qaddafi's face. It doesn't look normal. Expressionless. Is this guy botoxed to the gills or what?
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: gordonstrong on May 14, 2011, 12:41:10 PM
Anyway, I think I've figured out what has been bothering me about Qaddafi's face. It doesn't look normal. Expressionless. Is this guy botoxed to the gills or what?

I think he's had more work done than Joan Rivers.  Botox?  I prefer to think of him as pre-embalmed.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: ccarlson on May 14, 2011, 01:01:58 PM
Maybe he looks that way from smelling all of the hair dye he uses.
Title: Re: Cease-fire in Libya
Post by: punatic on May 14, 2011, 07:18:12 PM
Reagan killed the real Gaddafi back in the 80s.  The current Gaddafi was made by The Jim Henson Company.