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Title: Raging b!tch
Post by: euge on March 29, 2011, 08:03:14 AM
Belgian-style India Pale Ale that is. ;)

Crystal-clear deep copper. Juicy hop flavor countered by that signature Belgian phenolic character. I'm only just slowly warming to this beer. Not sure I'm a big fan of the hoppy Belgian IPA from Flying Dog.

Paired with spicy texmex it's a winner though.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: tygo on March 29, 2011, 10:51:44 AM
The jury is still out for me on this beer as well. I had it for the first time at a beer fest and liked it.  Had another one awhile later and wasn't sure.  It's interesting and pairing it with some spicy food might be a good idea.  More tasting is necessary.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: Hokerer on March 29, 2011, 05:03:54 PM
Interesting you bring that beer up now.  Looks like it's been banned in Michigan because some of the congresscritters don't like the name/artwork.  Flying Dog is suing them on 1st amendment grounds...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42306622 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/42306622)
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: gordonstrong on March 29, 2011, 05:05:12 PM
They could age it in oak and call it Raging Woody.  Bet the politicians would like that even better.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: denny on March 29, 2011, 05:06:50 PM
They could age it in oak and call it Raging Woody.  Bet the politicians would like that even better.

Leave it to you....;)
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: richardt on March 29, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
I've tried it and was rather disappointed.  IIRC, it was a moderately bodied beer that was too sweet and phenolic, and did not have enough hop flavor/aroma.  I couldn't drink more than one at a time--it did not seem like a Belgian IPA--which in my mind is an IPA with Belgian yeast notes.   Catchy title though.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: gmac on March 29, 2011, 06:21:27 PM
I tried this once alongside some DFH 90.  Neither were really to my tastes but if you want a higher alcohol, heavily hopped beer, I'd take the 90 over this one.  Not sure I can put my finger on the faults, and it was a while ago I had it, but I think it's an example of the name being more important to the marketing plan than the beer.  Not that it was bad, just wasn't great.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: euge on March 29, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
I tried this once alongside some DFH 90.  Neither were really to my tastes but if you want a higher alcohol, heavily hopped beer, I'd take the 90 over this one.  Not sure I can put my finger on the faults, and it was a while ago I had it, but I think it's an example of the name being more important to the marketing plan than the beer.  Not that it was bad, just wasn't great.

I gave some to my friend with the uber-sensitive palate and he didn't like it except with some habenero salsa I force-fed him. Actually he went like a pig at the trough but I digress.

He also commented that if they payed Ralph Steadman to do the artwork then marketing was more important than the actual beer itself. I've never had any of their other beers but they are always available. The busy illustration has always turned me off for some reason, though I like the artist. Must try a more traditional style from them...
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: punatic on March 30, 2011, 07:36:44 AM
They could age it in oak and call it Raging Woody.  Bet the politicians would like that even better.

If you aged it long enough it might even become a Poppa Raging Woody...  ;)
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: MDixon on March 30, 2011, 11:31:38 AM
Great beer, must have drank a couple of cases of it last year when it came out. I think it is now gonna be a year-round...
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: majorvices on March 30, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
I don't really care for it. Not a huge fan of any of the Flying Dog beers.

 Not sure I can put my finger on the faults, and it was a while ago I had it, but I think it's an example of the name being more important to the marketing plan than the beer.  Not that it was bad, just wasn't great.

^^^My feelings exactly.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: blatz on March 30, 2011, 02:05:09 PM
Its better than Stone's Cali-belgique, but I don't know if that's a compliment or not  ::)
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: euge on March 30, 2011, 05:13:29 PM
Drank the last one during the night. Well in the AM, probably when some of you were getting up. ;) Got somewhat used to it. I really love the malt and hop profile this beer has. The phenolicky character still seems a bit over the top, so while I won't refuse one, another purchase seems unlikely.

Onward and upward. There's hundreds of beers to try...
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: bluesman on March 30, 2011, 05:20:27 PM
I had this beer for the first time a few weeks back and thought it was good. I would give it a 29 out of 50 without going into detail. There's no BJCP style guidelines for this beer yet.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: Pinski on March 30, 2011, 05:25:16 PM
I gave some to my friend with the uber-sensitive palate and he didn't like it except with some habenero salsa I force-fed him. Actually he went like a pig at the trough but I digress.

Ha... it also feels really good when you stop smashing your fingers with a hammer.  I can't taste anything after habanero salsa so if that's what it takes to make this stuff palateable... think I'll pass.  Love the name though.  Maybe it just needs to be paired with Arrogant Bastard.  
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: euge on March 30, 2011, 05:30:10 PM
I gave some to my friend with the uber-sensitive palate and he didn't like it except with some habenero salsa I force-fed him. Actually he went like a pig at the trough but I digress.

Ha... it also feels really good when you stop smashing your fingers with a hammer.  I can't taste anything after habanero salsa so if that's what it takes to make this stuff palateable... think I'll pass.  Love the name though.  Maybe it just needs to be paired with Arrogant Bastard.  

Of course we're used to the heat! Anyway, the interesting thing was the capsaicin canceled out the phenol flavor but left the hops and malt shining. Plus the sweetness cooled the palate somewhat.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: blatz on March 30, 2011, 05:34:17 PM
The name is fun at least - we went out to dinner with some friends last year and my buddy went to the bar to get some beers - got me, him and my wife pints of some local stuff, but got his wife a bottle the Raging b**** IPA.  When he handed her the bottle he said "look, they made a beer just for you".

Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: bluesman on March 30, 2011, 05:36:22 PM
The name is fun at least - we went out to dinner with some friends last year and my buddy went to the bar to get some beers - got me, him and my wife pints of some local stuff, but got his wife a bottle the Raging b**** IPA.  When he handed her the bottle he said "look, they made a beer just for you".

Was he wearing the beer after that comment.  :D
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: Pinski on March 30, 2011, 05:37:36 PM
Of course we're used to the heat! Anyway, the interesting thing was the capsaicin canceled out the phenol flavor but left the hops and malt shining. Plus the sweetness cooled the palate somewhat.

Well, that is interesting. Maybe I should give it a try a it's usually the phenols in Belgians that can be a bit much for my liking and in truth I do enjoy pushing the capsaicin envelope.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: punatic on March 30, 2011, 05:46:07 PM
The name is fun at least - we went out to dinner with some friends last year and my buddy went to the bar to get some beers - got me, him and my wife pints of some local stuff, but got his wife a bottle the Raging b**** IPA.  When he handed her the bottle he said "look, they made a beer just for you".



What a smooth-talking ladies' man.   :o
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: blatz on March 30, 2011, 05:56:55 PM
What a smooth-talking ladies' man.   :o

hehe - both he and his wife are some of the most fiery personalities I've ever met.  they're perfect for each other.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: phillamb168 on March 30, 2011, 06:11:52 PM
Having this beer right now actually - there's an importer in the Netherlands, after finishing this going to try a Mikkeller GIPA.

Wife and I like it, but once you mentioned phenols, yeah, they're definitely there. We're having it with some split pea soup with sausage and a turkish salad of some kind. Lots of things going on in my mouth right now
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: majorvices on March 30, 2011, 08:54:48 PM
The name is fun at least - we went out to dinner with some friends last year and my buddy went to the bar to get some beers - got me, him and my wife pints of some local stuff, but got his wife a bottle the Raging b**** IPA.  When he handed her the bottle he said "look, they made a beer just for you".



ROTF - I like your friend. Sounds like something I would do to my wife. Playfully, of course.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: Hokerer on March 31, 2011, 01:45:37 AM
The name is fun at least - we went out to dinner with some friends last year and my buddy went to the bar to get some beers - got me, him and my wife pints of some local stuff, but got his wife a bottle the Raging b**** IPA.  When he handed her the bottle he said "look, they made a beer just for you".


...and that's when the fight started.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: rbclay on March 31, 2011, 02:58:48 AM
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He also commented that if they payed Ralph Steadman to do the artwork then marketing was more important than the actual beer itself.
This may seem to be the case, however this is not true with Flying Dog. I used to live in Colorado. I may have some of the details wrong, but the jist of my story is correct. Flying Dogs roots go back to Aspen, Colorado. George Stranahan was one of the founders. He is good friends with Hunter S. Thompson. The good doctor has always been close with Ralph Steadman. Steadman has done the artwork for flying Dog from the get-go. Remember the Road Dog Porter "No s***" label? They won that First Amendment case too.
Their beers have always been solid. The nice labels by a famous artist are a bonus, not a marketing ploy.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: majorvices on March 31, 2011, 11:37:56 AM
I honestly dislike their labels and am turned off by them. I guess its marketed for the 18-24 year crowd.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: MDixon on March 31, 2011, 11:41:43 AM
I've said it before and will probably have to say it again...it ain't the label, it's what's in the bottle... ;D

And you non-phenol drinking sods can go pound sand.  :D

Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: jeffy on March 31, 2011, 12:02:07 PM
I honestly dislike their labels and am turned off by them. I guess its marketed for the 18-24 year crowd.
Me, too.  I actually find myself NOT buying the beer because of the labels.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: kgs on March 31, 2011, 12:16:36 PM
I'm mildly amused by the name (Raging B!tch) but leave it to politicians to fixate on that name versus the one I really can't bring myself to buy, Doggy Style. It's just too idiotic.

I think Raging B!itch's take on style is interesting, and where I can buy singles I will buy one or two bottles once in a while. My favorite "American Belgian" is still Matilda (we'll see if that's still true in a year or two, now that Goose Island has been bought by The Man).
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: majorvices on March 31, 2011, 02:12:56 PM
I've said it before and will probably have to say it again...it ain't the label, it's what's in the bottle... ;D

And you non-phenol drinking sods can go pound sand.  :D



Yeah, I agree with you. But I will offer this: A local brewery in town have done a "second runnigs" beer and called it "Sloppy Seconds"... funny? Maybe (I didn't think so). One thing is for sure, I would never order a beer called "sloppy seconds" ever, no matter how great the beer tasted.

Should note I know the brewer personally and he makes fine beers.

As far as FD goes, I have given them a fair shake. And I admire the head brewer greatly. Just don't care for their beers and that, along with their branding, doesn't sit well with me. I respect others who have a different take.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: gordonstrong on March 31, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
I almost never call their beers by their name, just the style.  I like the APA, I guess.  But yeah, like wine, I wish people wouldn't rely on goofy names or labels to sell their products.  But then again, those are exactly the products that win people's choice awards at festivals.

I guess that's why I always liked Westvleteren beers.  No label.  Just look for the color of the cap.  Badass monks.  Like the ninjas of Belgium.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: blatz on March 31, 2011, 02:24:14 PM
Yeah - the APA is a great beer when fresh,  - BTW, I thought they dropped the "Doggie Style" part of the label a while back.  The IPA is pretty decent too, as is the Imperial Porter.  The rest is 'meh'

Funny you say that about Westy, Gordon - just this morning, one of my clients mentioned he is going to Belgium next week and asked what beers should he try - I told him almost anything he can get there will be worth it, but do not leave without trying some of the Westvleterens, to which he asked what the labels look like - and I chuckled and told him 'no label'.  He said, then they must be really good.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: MDixon on July 28, 2011, 10:53:29 AM
So I'm at the store and spot a few cases of RB. I think to myself, self, that was a tasty beverage last year, maybe I should get a sixer. As I reach forward I spot the price, $12.99 per six...WHAT!!!

I know I was purchasing RB when it first came out for around $8 or it wouldn't have filled my fridge so often. I even went to another location of the same store in a city 3 hours away and the price was $12.99 so it wasn't a mislabeling issue unless they have screwed up the entire chain.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: phillamb168 on July 28, 2011, 11:54:29 AM
So I'm at the store and spot a few cases of RB. I think to myself, self, that was a tasty beverage last year, maybe I should get a sixer. As I reach forward I spot the price, $12.99 per six...WHAT!!!

I know I was purchasing RB when it first came out for around $8 or it wouldn't have filled my fridge so often. I even went to another location of the same store in a city 3 hours away and the price was $12.99 so it wasn't a mislabeling issue unless they have screwed up the entire chain.

I dunno, $12,99 for a sixer sounds like a deal to me. Then again, RB costs me 5 eur a bottle here... Only bought it once, didn't really like it.
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: MDixon on July 28, 2011, 01:02:07 PM
Wowser, 5 euro a bottle is a rip. Too often people bring out beers and charge what equates to an exorbitant price and fail to realize if it ain't all that and a bag of chips most folks will be one and done. We have a local "organic" brewery which has a price point $2-$3 a six more than anyone else. There beers are good, solid, but not better than less expensive alternatives, so I purchase other products...YMMV
Title: Re: Raging b!tch
Post by: alikocho on July 28, 2011, 04:22:37 PM
Wowser, 5 euro a bottle is a rip.

I can pick it up for £2.50. 5 Euro's a bit steep for France given that the importer is in Belgium.