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Title: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 02:47:35 PM
Superman is sick of it too:
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Why so many 'reboots'?  It's like the studios are admitting their own work is crap/not good enough.

-We've had 2 versions of The Hulk (and I think we'll be having a 3rd - they didn't want Edward Norton as David Banner again).
-They already 'rebooted' Superman but were unhappy with it - so here it comes again as a re-reboot.
-We've had 3 pretty decent Spider-Man movies with Tobey Maguire.  Not good enough.  The reboot is shooting now.
-Today I just read that after "The Dark Knight Rises", they'll be scrapping that series & 'rebooting' Batman YET again.
-X-men First Class & the Wolverine movies.  These are more 'spinoffs' than 'reboots', but still.

And how about remakes?  Here's a long list of ones we've arleady seen - and ones that are on the way:

-Texas Chainsaw Massacre (A classic!  The remake? Sacrelige!)
-The Wizard of Oz (How COULD they?  This is ridiculous.)
-Total Recall (The original came out in 1990 - can't they remake older stuff first?)
-Robocop (Again - 1987.  Too soon!)
-Arthur (Already out - and an insult to the original w/ Dudley Moore & Liza Minelli.)
-The Birds (A classic & should not be f**ked with!)
-Conan The Barbarian (Nobody will top Arnold's role here.)
-Escape From New York (Kurt Russell should be up in arms over this!)
-Fletch (Chevy Chase WAS Fletch.  How the hell do you remake it w/o him?)
-Gremins (Are you f'n kidding me?)

I could go on, but I think you get the idea.  Why SO many reboots/remakes?  It's quite clear by now that NOBODY in Hollywood has any original ideas left.  None. 

Now... remakes of much older movies I'd actually be OK with.  For example, I was OK with the remake of H.G. Wells Time Machine.  I also heard they were working on a remake of Logan's Run.  Agian, the age of the film makes a remake today a better idea than remaking films that came out in the 80's and 90's. 

I think this all came to a head for me today when I read about the reboot, yet again, of Batman.  ENOUGH!
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Pinski on March 30, 2011, 02:59:05 PM
+1
That was funny right there.

this could be a good thread...

a) worst movies re-boots

b) worst classic rock covers (bonus points for cheesy duets)
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: phillamb168 on March 30, 2011, 03:00:40 PM
You know they're doing a sequel to TOP GUN right?
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: theDarkSide on March 30, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
The reboots of the Hulk and Batman were welcome.  The first Hulk sucked and Batman was getting too F$%#$ing ridiculous after the first movie.  Val Kilmer and George Clooney....are you kidding me?
I didn't know they were doing a 3rd Hulk.  Are you sure this isn't part of the Avengers movie they've been building up to ( Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Captain America )?

I'm not sure I'd like a Logan's Run remake...too many fond memories as a kid to have it destroyed by "modern" cinema.

They should make the Superman movie based on the Saturday Night Live skit that asked "what if Superman landed in 1938 Germany?"  Uberman...funny stuff.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: phillamb168 on March 30, 2011, 03:03:24 PM
Here's an article you might be interested in:
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201102/the-day-the-movies-died-mark-harris?currentPage=1
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: gordonstrong on March 30, 2011, 03:10:02 PM
They should make the Superman movie based on the Saturday Night Live skit that asked "what if Superman landed in 1938 Germany?"  Uberman...funny stuff.

Two favorite lines from that skit:

1. "Or should I say, Jimmy Olstein"
2. "Uh, why didn't Superman fight on *our* side?"
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 03:15:34 PM
The reboots of the Hulk and Batman were welcome.  The first Hulk sucked and Batman was getting too F$%#$ing ridiculous after the first movie.  Val Kilmer and George Clooney....are you kidding me?
I didn't know they were doing a 3rd Hulk.  Are you sure this isn't part of the Avengers movie they've been building up to ( Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Captain America )?

I'm not sure I'd like a Logan's Run remake...too many fond memories as a kid to have it destroyed by "modern" cinema.

They should make the Superman movie based on the Saturday Night Live skit that asked "what if Superman landed in 1938 Germany?"  Uberman...funny stuff.

I agree the 80's Tim Burton Batman series was crap.  But why reboot the latest one?  It's been pretty good - though not good enough for the studios, I guess.  The next reboot will begin after 'The Dark Knight Rises'.  

Not 100% sure on the 3rd Hulk.  I know they wanted to make another one before The Avengers - but I think they've run out of time.  Though, as I said, they don't seem to want Edward Norton back, so it'll be someone else.  

I know what you mean about Logan's Run.  It's one of my favorite classic movies.  The main point was, if you must remake stuff - remake the 'older' stuff, not stuff that's barely (or not even) 10 or 20 years old.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: akr71 on March 30, 2011, 03:18:03 PM
-We've had 3 2 pretty decent Spider-Man movies with Tobey Maguire.  Not good enough.  The reboot is shooting now....
I could go on, but I think you get the idea.  Why SO many reboots/remakes?  It's quite clear by now that NOBODY in Hollywood has any original ideas left.  None. 

I corrected that for you - the 3rd stank.  Besides the singing and dancing, they kept the plot moving by introducing more villans.  If you're going to have Venom as a villan, that should be the only villan in the entire movie.  They coulda dragged the whole new goblin/hobgoblin thing out for an extra movie or 2 as well.

But I agree, Hollywood has no original ideas and Spiderman does not need a reboot - even if you do change who plays Spiderman.  The kept going with Batman for 4 movies and 3 actors before rebooting.  Tho IMO the last 2 batman movies were good, and a helluva a lot better than the Val Kilmer & George Clooney movies.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 03:22:45 PM
It's financial fear - especially in today's economy.

Studios are fearful of spending big money on any totally new scripts/ideas, because if they flop, the studio could be out a lot of money instead of making a profit.  Case in point - Sucker Punch. 

Instead, they remake/reboot/retool/etc./etc.  It's sad that even a crappy or only halfway decent remake can make a bigger profit than a totally original idea.  That's why they keep doing it. 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: akr71 on March 30, 2011, 03:23:13 PM
I'm not sure I'd like a Logan's Run remake...too many fond memories as a kid to have it destroyed by "modern" cinema.
+ a kazillion - its a great movie as is and last I heard they had Nicholas Cage pegged as the lead  ::)  At least choose someone who doesn't look like they were up for Carousel a decade ago.  Oh, sorry, it looks like its Ryan Gosling now.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: dbeechum on March 30, 2011, 03:23:26 PM
Batman isn't getting rebooted because the studios feel like it's boring or unsuccessful, but because Christopher Nolan has said the last one is his last Batman film. Let's face it, the series has been the singular vision of his. The reason they haven't bitten is cause tim Burton and Joel Schumacher haven't been allowed near the series!

As for remakes and adaptions, this has been Hollywood's m├ętier since just about out the gate. One of my favorites is the way they shot 3 different versions of the Maltese Falcon in roughly a decade!

 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: beersk on March 30, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
Total Recall?  Really??  Pffff...That movie rocked, why remake it?

Why not remake something like Fahrenheit 451 or something?  Although, I'm not sure about that one either.

They should remake Beerwars and take that stupid chick from Moonshot out of there...

EDIT: 6 new replies while I was typing my post...jesus.  The Tim Burton Batman series was crap?  WTF are you talking about?  I seriously question your taste and judgment in movies...
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: gmac on March 30, 2011, 03:24:45 PM
The problem I have - and I always have one - is that there is so much reliance on CG effects now.  Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.  A movie is a classic, even if it's dated, and just because you can make flashier effects doesn't mean you can make it a better movie (I give you the "last" 3 Star Wars movies and Lucas' upgrades to the originals as examples).  

It's all about money.  You saw it in the theater so maybe your kids will go see it and they can cash in on the idea once again.  

I would never want to see Strange Brew re-done.  Best line - "My brother and I used to think drowning in beer'd be like Heaven.  Now he's not here and I got two soakers...this isn't Heaven, this sucks!"
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 03:27:38 PM
The problem I have - and I always have one - is that there is so much reliance on CG effects now.  Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.  A movie is a classic, even if it's dated, and just because you can make flashier effects doesn't mean you can make it a better movie (I give you the "last" 3 Star Wars movies and Lucas' upgrades to the originals as examples).  

It's all about money.  You saw it in the theater so maybe your kids will go see it and they can cash in on the idea once again.  

I would never want to see Strange Brew re-done.  Best line - "My brother and I used to think drowning in beer'd be like Heaven.  Now he's not here and I got two soakers...this isn't Heaven, this sucks!"


"I gotta take a leak so bad I can taste it!"
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: gordonstrong on March 30, 2011, 03:28:56 PM
Total Recall?  Really??  Pffff...That movie rocked, why remake it?

Right.  As in "I totally recall when Sharon Stone was hot." 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: EHall on March 30, 2011, 03:29:42 PM
If people were really sick of all the remakes they would stop going to the theater.... they keep making them cause people keep going...little sheep who need to be constantly entertained by some kind of electronic device...
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: EHall on March 30, 2011, 03:30:18 PM
If people were really sick of all the remakes they would stop going to the theater.... they keep making them cause people keep going...little sheep who need to be constantly entertained by some kind of electronic device...
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 03:36:35 PM
If people were really sick of all the remakes they would stop going to the theater.... they keep making them cause people keep going...little sheep who need to be constantly entertained by some kind of electronic device...
Agreed.  It's the movie going public's fault just as much. 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: jaybeerman on March 30, 2011, 03:41:34 PM
get netflix, the rest of the world is producing fantastic movies.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: theDarkSide on March 30, 2011, 03:41:45 PM
If people were really sick of all the remakes they would stop going to the theater.... they keep making them cause people keep going...little sheep who need to be constantly entertained by some kind of electronic device...

Like if people would stop drinking s***ty beer, Budweiser ( InBev ) would go out of business and not be able to buy craft breweries.

Just to reiterate my previous post, the 1989 Batman was good...everything after that sucked until they rebooted.  I didn't think another reboot was in order since they left The Dark Knight wide open for another installment.

So when's the reboot of Debbie Does Dallas coming?
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 03:44:11 PM
Like if people would stop drinking s***ty beer, Budweiser ( InBev ) would go out of business and not be able to buy craft breweries.

Exactly!  lol  I still can't believe Bud is the #1 selling beer in the World.  That just says to me that the majority of the beer drinking World hasn't tasted decent beer!  lol

Just to reiterate my previous post, the 1989 Batman was good...everything after that sucked until they rebooted.  I didn't think another reboot was in order since they left The Dark Knight wide open for another installment.

I agree w/ that.  The first one was OK. They got exponentially worse after that. 

So when's the reboot of Debbie Does Dallas coming?

I think your mom will be getting to my house around 11:00AM today.  You bring the camera.  ;) 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: EHall on March 30, 2011, 03:52:34 PM
'So when's the reboot of Debbie Does Dallas coming?'

they already did... it sucked!  ;)

The only reason bud is still #1 is due to marketing... give billions to the small guys to advertise like them and their sales will go up too... but most americans have s***ty palets and love bland things...
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: punatic on March 30, 2011, 05:49:18 PM
You know they're doing a sequel to TOP GUN right?

I don't believe it.  They'll never be able to find anyone with an ego as big as Tom Cruise to play the lead.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 05:52:28 PM
You know they're doing a sequel to TOP GUN right?

I don't believe it.  They'll never be able to find anyone with an ego as big as Tom Cruise to play the lead.
Oh, I dunno.  How about TOM CRUISE!  lol

How do you make Tom Cruise's ego look smaller?  Stand it next to Kanye West's ego!  lol
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: euge on March 30, 2011, 05:59:19 PM
I haven't been to the movies in years. A complete f'ing waste of time. If I really want to see something there's always the web but usually just wait a bit and then it's on video-on-demand in my living room on my 50" HD screen for about $5 less. Though, I have been seeing the prices jump up to $10 recently.

Greedy bastards.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: punatic on March 30, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
I haven't been in a movie theater in years.  Paying to sit in a dark room full of sneezing and coughing strangers does not appeal.

+1 on watching at home on the big screen.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 06:04:56 PM
I haven't been to the movies in years. A complete f'ing waste of time. If I really want to see something there's always the web but usually just wait a bit and then it's on video-on-demand in my living room on my 50" HD screen for about $5 less. Though, I have been seeing the prices jump up to $10 recently.

Greedy bastards.

Agreed.  My wife & I have been married for 10 years now.  I think we've been to the movies 2-3 times at the most.  lol

We have a 52" 1080p big screen and a 7.1 surround system that can rattle the windows out!  We virtually always wait for the rental/DVD/Blu-ray.  You can buy a movie now (even blu-ray) for about the same or less than it costs for 2 people to go to a movie in a theater and share one small popcorn. 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: gordonstrong on March 30, 2011, 06:08:13 PM
An HD Netflix subscription is something like $11.  Go to one movie (matinee) a month with two people and you spend more than that.  And you can drink beer while you watch it.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: weithman5 on March 30, 2011, 06:09:06 PM
i still don't like the bond flick "never say never again"  it was like watching sean connory remaking his thunderball  movie.  nearly turned me off of all his other work.  though barbara carrera was easy on the eye
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: gordonstrong on March 30, 2011, 06:11:35 PM
Like?  It *was* a Thunderball remake.  Or is Domino a common name?

Duck, or you'll get Fatima guts blown all over you...
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: euge on March 30, 2011, 06:16:39 PM
Like?  It *was* a Thunderball remake.  Or is Domino a common name?

Duck, or you'll get Fatima guts blown all over you...

But wasn't it "outside" the traditional Bond/Broccoli franchise?
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: theDarkSide on March 30, 2011, 06:21:05 PM
I still go to the movies frequently, especially to see stuff like the superhero movies with my son ( a little male bonding time ).  And there's no way I'm going to wait months to see Harry Potter on blu ray.

There is a movie theater near me where tickets are $3.50 all the time.  It's a pretty clean theater and the movies are in between new releases and DVD/BluRay release dates.  And of course the IMAX stuff kicks ASS!!!
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 06:24:16 PM
I still go to the movies frequently, especially to see stuff like the superhero movies with my son ( a little male bonding time ).  And there's no way I'm going to wait months to see Harry Potter on blu ray.

There is a movie theater near me where tickets are $3.50 all the time.  It's a pretty clean theater and the movies are in between new releases and DVD/BluRay release dates.  And of course the IMAX stuff kicks ASS!!!

If I had kids, I'd probably attend movies at the teater more often too, but I don't - so I don't.  ;) 

(Wife & I tried to have kids - it just wasn't in the cards for us.  :(  )
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: gordonstrong on March 30, 2011, 06:33:17 PM
Like?  It *was* a Thunderball remake.  Or is Domino a common name?

Duck, or you'll get Fatima guts blown all over you...

But wasn't it "outside" the traditional Bond/Broccoli franchise?

Yes, but at least it didn't have Roger Moore in it.  Remember, Broccoli gave us "Octopussy" and "Moonraker".
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: jeffy on March 30, 2011, 06:36:24 PM
My wife and I like to go to the movies.  Of course having the local brew pub on the first floor under the theater is always a must stop before or after.  We recently saw The King's Speech and The Tourist.  Looking forward to Rango.  We can get beer and wine at our theater, although the choices are pretty slim - can of Guinness does go well with popcorn.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: euge on March 30, 2011, 06:40:01 PM
Like?  It *was* a Thunderball remake.  Or is Domino a common name?

Duck, or you'll get Fatima guts blown all over you...

But wasn't it "outside" the traditional Bond/Broccoli franchise?

Yes, but at least it didn't have Roger Moore in it.  Remember, Broccoli gave us "Octopussy" and "Moonraker".

They should have made more with George Lazenby and passed on Moore's shtick.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 06:42:40 PM
Like?  It *was* a Thunderball remake.  Or is Domino a common name?

Duck, or you'll get Fatima guts blown all over you...

But wasn't it "outside" the traditional Bond/Broccoli franchise?

Yes, but at least it didn't have Roger Moore in it.  Remember, Broccoli gave us "Octopussy" and "Moonraker".

They should have made more with George Lazenby and passed on Moore's shtick.
While a bit on the cheesy side, I could handle Moore.  It was Timothy Dalton I could never accept as Bond.  I walked out halfway through his first Bond role (Living Daylilghts) and refused to see another Bond file starring him. 

I should give Daniel Craig a go, but I haven't seen Casino Royale yet.  Nobody will ever beat Connery. 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: gordonstrong on March 30, 2011, 06:43:38 PM
Watching late-era Moore as Bond was like watching Batman from the '60s (or worse, the original Batman "shark repellant" movie).  Campy parody of itself.  Painful.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 06:43:54 PM
See what this thread is doing to Superman?
(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1238408638_superman_drinking_.gif)

lol
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: weithman5 on March 30, 2011, 06:48:17 PM
okay so it was really a remake of thunderball
i agree george lazenby was very good but at that time no one wanted the "tortured soul" bond.  now it plays very well and i think craig has been very good.
oh and broccoli/ian fleming also gave us chitty chitty bang bang.  (of which i am a huge fan)
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: theDarkSide on March 30, 2011, 06:58:46 PM
Of course having the local brew pub on the first floor under the theater is always a must stop before or after.  

We have Chunky's theaters around us where you watch the movie from a table, order dinner and of course, have a few beverages.  I'm not too sure on the beer selection at these places...may have to have a grown-ups night to check it out.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: nicneufeld on March 30, 2011, 06:59:38 PM
You know they're doing a sequel to TOP GUN right?

I don't believe it.  They'll never be able to find anyone with an ego as big as Tom Cruise to play the lead.

They already did, I think in the early 90s...he has tiger blood and he's BIWINNING!
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: jeffy on March 30, 2011, 07:01:57 PM
Of course having the local brew pub on the first floor under the theater is always a must stop before or after.  

We have Chunky's theaters around us where you watch the movie from a table, order dinner and of course, have a few beverages.  I'm not too sure on the beer selection at these places...may have to have a grown-ups night to check it out.
All the McMenamin's hotels in Oregon have in-house theaters with big comfy couches and they encourage you to bring beer.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: alikocho on March 30, 2011, 07:03:42 PM
Like?  It *was* a Thunderball remake.  Or is Domino a common name?

Duck, or you'll get Fatima guts blown all over you...

But wasn't it "outside" the traditional Bond/Broccoli franchise?

Yes, but at least it didn't have Roger Moore in it.  Remember, Broccoli gave us "Octopussy" and "Moonraker".

They should have made more with George Lazenby and passed on Moore's shtick.
While a bit on the cheesy side, I could handle Moore.  It was Timothy Dalton I could never accept as Bond.  I walked out halfway through his first Bond role (Living Daylilghts) and refused to see another Bond file starring him. 

I should give Daniel Craig a go, but I haven't seen Casino Royale yet.  Nobody will ever beat Connery. 

While Sean Connery remains the classic Bond, I think that Pierce Brosnan has actually been the best to date. Connery wasn't that good an actor (but delivered the wry oneliners very well), Roger Moore was just Simon Templar (The Saint), and lacked the athleticism and the wit, Lazenby was too dark, Timothy Dalton was awful. Daniel Craig is actually pretty good.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: euge on March 30, 2011, 07:11:09 PM
I'm young enough that the first Bond I saw was Moore. Once I saw Connery the scales fell from my eyes. Now I think Daniel Craig plays him excellently. Portrays Bond as the smooth-talking sociopath; this is the real Bond.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: gordonstrong on March 30, 2011, 07:14:54 PM
While Sean Connery remains the classic Bond, I think that Pierce Brosnan has actually been the best to date. Connery wasn't that good an actor (but delivered the wry oneliners very well), Roger Moore was just Simon Templar (The Saint), and lacked the athleticism and the wit, Lazenby was too dark, Timothy Dalton was awful. Daniel Craig is actually pretty good.

That's a fair analysis.  Daniel Craig brings back the badass Bond.  I did like Pierce Brosnan, though.  Suave, tough, cool under pressure.

For Connery one-liners, I'm not sure anything tops Diamonds Are Forever:
Babe: "Hi, I'm Plenty"
Bond: "Well of course you are"
Babe: "Plenty O'Toole"
Bond: "Named after your father perhaps?"
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 07:22:30 PM
Yeah, Brosnan was a refreshing change after Dalton.  They actually wanted Brosnan before Dalton (or rather instead of), but at the time he was still locked into his 'Remington Steele' Contract.  Remmber that show?  lol

I'll have to rent Casino Royale.  My only 2 'concerns' over Craig are really superficial:
1. He didn't CARE if he martini was shaken not stirred?  What?  lol
2. He's 'blonde'.  I've never seen Bond as a blonde. 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: bluesman on March 30, 2011, 07:25:19 PM
A classic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4xw4mE2Xk&feature=related
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: Beer Monger on March 30, 2011, 07:28:40 PM
A classic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4xw4mE2Xk&feature=related

I prefer THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkChbEu3hKE&feature=related) one.  ;) 
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: WDE97 on March 30, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Yeah, Brosnan was a refreshing change after Dalton.  They actually wanted Brosnan before Dalton (or rather instead of), but at the time he was still locked into his 'Remington Steele' Contract.  Remmber that show?  lol

I'll have to rent Casino Royale.  My only 2 'concerns' over Craig are really superficial:
1. He didn't CARE if he martini was shaken not stirred?  What?  lol
2. He's 'blonde'.  I've never seen Bond as a blonde. 

First off, Casino Royale (with Daniel Craig) is an excellent Bond movie, and I definitely recommend you seeing it.  The thing to remember is that this is Bond before he became (or as he is becomming) "Bond".  In this movie he is developing into the Bond that we are familiar with from the portrayals by Connery et al.  Soooo, at this time, he wouldn't have cared if his martini was shaken, or whether he was even drinking a martini at all.  There are things in this movie, such as Bond making mistakes, that would never happen in the previous movies since he is a new 00 and is still learning. He isn't polished yet. Also, anybody notice how the music changes in this movie? It slowly develops into the full Bond theme throughout the movie and we don't hear the full theme until the end.
Title: Re: Getting sick of all these movie franchise 'Reboots' and remakes
Post by: euge on March 30, 2011, 07:42:12 PM
He invented his drink in that movie. But doesn't it have a twist?

Thanks for the bit about the score changing. I think this is the best remake.

Yeah, Brosnan was a refreshing change after Dalton.  They actually wanted Brosnan before Dalton (or rather instead of), but at the time he was still locked into his 'Remington Steele' Contract.  Remmber that show?  lol

I'll have to rent Casino Royale.  My only 2 'concerns' over Craig are really superficial:
1. He didn't CARE if he martini was shaken not stirred?  What?  lol
2. He's 'blonde'.  I've never seen Bond as a blonde. 

First off, Casino Royale (with Daniel Craig) is an excellent Bond movie, and I definitely recommend you seeing it.  The thing to remember is that this is Bond before he became (or as he is becomming) "Bond".  In this movie he is developing into the Bond that we are familiar with from the portrayals by Connery et al.  Soooo, at this time, he wouldn't have cared if his martini was shaken, or whether he was even drinking a martini at all.  There are things in this movie, such as Bond making mistakes, that would never happen in the previous movies since he is a new 00 and is still learning. He isn't polished yet. Also, anybody notice how the music changes in this movie? It slowly develops into the full Bond theme throughout the movie and we don't hear the full theme until the end.
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Post by: weithman5 on March 30, 2011, 08:21:54 PM
speaking of diamonds are forever, there is a scene in vegas where he is driving a red mach 1 through a parking lot.  he goes between two buildings with the driver side wheels in the air.  he comes out with the passenger wheels in the air. now that is bad ass.   also in thunderball (i think) there is an underwater fight scene.  he gets his blue goggles pulled from his face. he reaches down and grabs a black one off some dead floater.  it instantly turns blue again. 
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Post by: punatic on March 31, 2011, 12:05:16 AM
speaking of diamonds are forever, there is a scene in vegas where he is driving a red mach 1 through a parking lot.  he goes between two buildings with the driver side wheels in the air.  he comes out with the passenger wheels in the air. now that is bad ass.   also in thunderball (i think) there is an underwater fight scene.  he gets his blue goggles pulled from his face. he reaches down and grabs a black one off some dead floater.  it instantly turns blue again. 

That's why cowboys' (and Indiana Jones') hats never comes off in action scenes - continuity.
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Post by: rabid_dingo on March 31, 2011, 12:25:15 AM
I have heard that production companies are "suffering" because John Q is choosing to Netflix and
stay at home with theaters that rival the big screens. So they are in the middle of considering to
start negotiating talks about releasing movies to theaters and on-demand venues Cable/Sat for
something near the cost of handful of tickets. Imagine having a "premier" at home with a bunch of friends
and water pistols for the "talker"!!! :D

That would be pretty cool, if you ask me. Watching a new release at midnight with my own popcorn
of reasonable size, a cool draft in one hand and the remote in the other...Pause for the intermission
for my miniscule bladder... ;D
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Post by: punatic on March 31, 2011, 12:29:50 AM
Many theaters now are having live event simulcasts.  One theater here is showing live operas from the Met.

Same problem though - dark room, sneezing, coughing strangers
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Post by: majorvices on March 31, 2011, 01:00:18 AM
Re: Bond movies. Liked the Daniel Craig "Casino Royale" .... totally lost me with "Quantum of Solace"... WTF happened in that movie? Never figured that one out.

I'm just waiting for the remake of "Star Crash".
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Post by: MrNate on March 31, 2011, 01:22:53 AM
Total Recall?  Really??  Pffff...That movie rocked, why remake it?

Right.  As in "I totally recall when Sharon Stone was hot." 

Heh.
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Post by: tschmidlin on March 31, 2011, 05:26:23 AM
That would be pretty cool, if you ask me. Watching a new release at midnight with my own popcorn
of reasonable size, a cool draft in one hand and the remote in the other...Pause for the intermission
for my miniscule bladder... ;D
These are the main reasons why I usually watch movies at home.  Pause for the bathroom, getting a snack, refreshing my beer, whatever I want.  I control the volume, I can go back because I missed what was said . . . all of those reasons trump the big screen experience for me.
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Post by: punatic on March 31, 2011, 06:03:17 AM
Let's not forget, freeze-frame, one-frame-at-a-time slow-motion, and subtitles.  They allow for seeing or hearing important things
that go by in a flash.

For instance - being able to read the subtitles of what Gollum was saying in LOTR really made a huge difference in my enjoyment of the movie. 

Or Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct  ;)

Fun Fact:  Sharon Stone was born and grew up in Meadville, PA
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Post by: phillamb168 on March 31, 2011, 08:04:34 AM
Re going to the theater, in most of Europe it's illegal to take children under the age of two to a movie theater. Supposedly it's bad for the development of their ears because of the volume, but 1. if it's that loud I don't want to go anyway and 2. just walking down a busy street or taking the subway are just as loud.

In NYC, at least, they have special mommy matinees where SAHMs can go to meet up with the girlfriends while taking care of the kids. They turn the volume down and have a few babysitters on hand. I wish they did that here.

I agree about watching movies at home being more fun (we don't have a 50", but we do have a 42" LED HDTV with 24hz mode and a lovely bluray player. Watching the Star Trek reboot (which I think is an example of an EXCELLENT reboot) in HD on a big screen is breathtaking.

The only thing missing for us is a sound system. I used to have a nice Pioneer receiver and Klipsch 5.1 system, but they weren't compatible with 220v/50hz so I had to sell them  :-[ :( :'( :'(
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Post by: alikocho on March 31, 2011, 08:30:58 AM

In NYC, at least, they have special mommy matinees where SAHMs can go to meet up with the girlfriends while taking care of the kids. They turn the volume down and have a few babysitters on hand. I wish they did that here.


We have 'baby cinema' in Bristol, and I know that it happens at some of the smaller independent theatres in London.
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Post by: phillamb168 on March 31, 2011, 08:42:17 AM

In NYC, at least, they have special mommy matinees where SAHMs can go to meet up with the girlfriends while taking care of the kids. They turn the volume down and have a few babysitters on hand. I wish they did that here.


We have 'baby cinema' in Bristol, and I know that it happens at some of the smaller independent theatres in London.

Sounds like I need to book those Eurostar tix. I think Paris is too bourgeoise for baby cinema.

Also, have to ask, is there baby foot at baby cinema? ;-)
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Post by: akr71 on April 06, 2011, 03:17:09 PM
I had to drag this thread back up to let you all know that a Bill & Ted 3 (http://www.imdb.com/news/ni4440463/) is in the works.  I know, I know, your life is now complete.

 ::)
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Post by: theDarkSide on April 06, 2011, 03:23:45 PM
I had to drag this thread back up to let you all know that a Bill & Ted 3 (http://www.imdb.com/news/ni4440463/) is in the works.  I know, I know, your life is now complete.

 ::)

NNOOOOO WWWAAAYYY!!!
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Post by: Beer Monger on April 06, 2011, 03:52:26 PM
I had to drag this thread back up to let you all know that a Bill & Ted 3 (http://www.imdb.com/news/ni4440463/) is in the works.  I know, I know, your life is now complete.

 ::)
That is non... non, non... NON heinous! 
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Post by: hoser on April 06, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
San Dimas High Rules!!!
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Post by: gordonstrong on April 06, 2011, 06:47:25 PM
Iron Maiden?  EXCELLENT!

They can't have the same people in it, can they?  What would the call it, Bill and Ted Get the Early-bird Special?
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Post by: Bret on April 06, 2011, 06:50:16 PM
Iron Maiden?  EXCELLENT!

They can't have the same people in it, can they?  What would the call it, Bill and Ted Get the Early-bird Special?
And what's next? "Dude, where's my walker?"
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Post by: punatic on April 06, 2011, 07:05:57 PM
Iron Maiden?  EXCELLENT!

They can't have the same people in it, can they? 

No way... Neo died.
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Post by: hoser on April 06, 2011, 07:11:03 PM

No way... Neo died.

Funny you should say that, supposedly they are actually planning a reboot/sequel of the Matrix as well per Keanu Reeves.

And per the Huffington Post, the actors for Bill and Ted's 3 will be the same, minus the obvious exception of Rufus/George Carlin :'(

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/04/bill-and-ted-3-keanu-reeves-third-film_n_844688.html

Wyld Stallions Rule!!!
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Post by: punatic on April 06, 2011, 07:40:03 PM

No way... Neo died.

Funny you should say that, supposedly they are actually planning a reboot/sequel of the Matrix as well per Keanu Reeves.


That would be a true reboot - Coppertop...
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Post by: gordonstrong on April 06, 2011, 08:45:56 PM
Funny you should say that, supposedly they are actually planning a reboot/sequel of the Matrix as well per Keanu Reeves.

I guess they did that in Mass Effect 2.  (ok, not a movie...)  As long as they don't pull a Bobby Ewing.
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Post by: punatic on April 06, 2011, 08:59:21 PM
Funny you should say that, supposedly they are actually planning a reboot/sequel of the Matrix as well per Keanu Reeves.

I guess they did that in Mass Effect 2.  (ok, not a movie...)  As long as they don't pull a Bobby Ewing.

Bob Newhart, "Honey wake up.  You won't believe the dream I just had..."
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Post by: phillamb168 on April 07, 2011, 09:09:12 AM
Funny you should say that, supposedly they are actually planning a reboot/sequel of the Matrix as well per Keanu Reeves.

I guess they did that in Mass Effect 2.  (ok, not a movie...)  As long as they don't pull a Bobby Ewing.

Yeah but ME2 was a far better-scripted game than ME1. Looking forward to ME3. Have you tried Dead Space I or II? Similar vein, really great games.
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Post by: gordonstrong on April 07, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
Nope.  Just went through Dragon Age 2.  Buggy.  Needs some fixes.  Liked Dragon Age:Origins better.  I'll look at those others.  Thanks.