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Title: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: phillamb168 on April 07, 2011, 09:25:29 AM
A little birdie told me to try to dry hop equal parts Nelson Sauvin, Simcoe and Amarillo hops the next time I do an IIPA. Simcoe and Amarillo I can get, but Nelson Sauvin seem to only be available in Austrailia/New Zealand. Anybody know purveyors in the States/Canada or Europe?
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: gordonstrong on April 07, 2011, 11:40:00 AM
I had about as much luck when trying to find Galaxy hops.  Our pals from down under must be using them all.  Not that I blame them.  Good stuff.

I did go to a German-style brewpub in Australia (I think it was in Canberra) that used Nelson Sauvin in a blend of three hops, the result being something that I swore were proper German noble hops.  I didn't write down the combination because I couldn't get the hops, but I was just amazed at what the people down there were doing.  I just loved that they were willing to try ideas like that (hop substitution) based on what they had available.  They're not short on creativity or talent.

We do see some NZ hops, so I'm hoping the situation will change.

CraftBrewer in Australia will sell them.  Rebel Brewer in the states seems to get them occasionally.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: phillamb168 on April 07, 2011, 12:27:35 PM
I had about as much luck when trying to find Galaxy hops.  Our pals from down under must be using them all.  Not that I blame them.  Good stuff.

I did go to a German-style brewpub in Australia (I think it was in Canberra) that used Nelson Sauvin in a blend of three hops, the result being something that I swore were proper German noble hops.  I didn't write down the combination because I couldn't get the hops, but I was just amazed at what the people down there were doing.  I just loved that they were willing to try ideas like that (hop substitution) based on what they had available.  They're not short on creativity or talent.

We do see some NZ hops, so I'm hoping the situation will change.

CraftBrewer in Australia will sell them.  Rebel Brewer in the states seems to get them occasionally.

Yup, I just bought a few hundred grams for a IIPA I'm gonna try, but $0.10 AUD per gram is preeeetty ridiculous. Plus shipping, oof. There goes my brewing budget for the month. But I got Simcoe, Amarillo and Nelson Sauvin so I'm not gonna complain. Seems like a good shop.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: pinnah on April 07, 2011, 12:53:31 PM
I recently got some from here (http://www.breworganic.com/organic-new-zealand-nelson-sauvin-pellet-hops.aspx).

They usually have a nice selection of organic hops.  Not sure of your schedule, but the new crop should be arriving soon.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: phillamb168 on April 07, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
I recently got some from here (http://www.breworganic.com/organic-new-zealand-nelson-sauvin-pellet-hops.aspx).

They usually have a nice selection of organic hops.  Not sure of your schedule, but the new crop should be arriving soon.

Sadly they don't ship to Europe.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: abraxas on April 16, 2011, 10:39:02 AM
Rebel Brewer advertised a new crop coming in in February 2011 but it never showed up.

Thanks for the link pinnah, just ordered 6oz and a few other varieties.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: tygo on April 16, 2011, 12:01:21 PM
We just recently started seeing the Drifter Pale Ale from Widmer in the stores here and I really like it.  It's hopped with Nelson Sauvin.  Next time I brew an APA I might try something like that.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: alikocho on April 16, 2011, 09:08:42 PM
They have them here - http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/nelson-sauvin-vacuum-packed-leaf-hops-100-gms.html (http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/nelson-sauvin-vacuum-packed-leaf-hops-100-gms.html)
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: tygo on April 16, 2011, 09:31:37 PM
They have them here - http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/nelson-sauvin-vacuum-packed-leaf-hops-100-gms.html (http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/nelson-sauvin-vacuum-packed-leaf-hops-100-gms.html)


Looks like they don't ship to the US.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: beveragebob on April 16, 2011, 10:40:22 PM
OP is in France
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: alikocho on April 17, 2011, 07:13:16 AM
They have them here - http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/nelson-sauvin-vacuum-packed-leaf-hops-100-gms.html (http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/nelson-sauvin-vacuum-packed-leaf-hops-100-gms.html)


Looks like they don't ship to the US.

OP asked for Europe, but I guess others might want them in the US. If you are really desparate for them, you can have them shipped to me and I'll organize sending them on from the UK to the US.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: abraxas on April 17, 2011, 03:00:10 PM
OP asked for Europe, but I guess others might want them in the US. If you are really desparate for them, you can have them shipped to me and I'll organize sending them on from the UK to the US.

They list them available in 5kg amounts.  Somebody could probably set up a group buy and make a few people on this side of the lake pretty happy.

I just brewed a wheat pale with amarillo and NS.  I'm hoping it's not too incredible given the scarcity of these two right now.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: alikocho on April 17, 2011, 06:11:12 PM
OP asked for Europe, but I guess others might want them in the US. If you are really desparate for them, you can have them shipped to me and I'll organize sending them on from the UK to the US.

They list them available in 5kg amounts.  Somebody could probably set up a group buy and make a few people on this side of the lake pretty happy.

I just brewed a wheat pale with amarillo and NS.  I'm hoping it's not too incredible given the scarcity of these two right now.

Anyone want in? I've just organized a group buy of hops for my club and would be game to do it again.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: tygo on April 17, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
I would be interested.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: phillamb168 on April 18, 2011, 07:22:04 AM
OP asked for Europe, but I guess others might want them in the US. If you are really desparate for them, you can have them shipped to me and I'll organize sending them on from the UK to the US.

They list them available in 5kg amounts.  Somebody could probably set up a group buy and make a few people on this side of the lake pretty happy.

I just brewed a wheat pale with amarillo and NS.  I'm hoping it's not too incredible given the scarcity of these two right now.

Anyone want in? I've just organized a group buy of hops for my club and would be game to do it again.

I'm interested.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: brewmasternpb on April 27, 2011, 03:43:22 AM
I've purchased them at my lhbs here in Denver.  They didn't have them last time I was in though...
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: jamminbrew on April 27, 2011, 03:52:13 AM
My LHBS finally got some Zues and Simcoe... maybe I'll see the Nelson next year, or the year after... ;)
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: pinnah on April 27, 2011, 12:00:36 PM
I have a Full Nelson bubbling away.  Building a cake of Denny's yeast for the future.
I might go with your (birds) suggestion of adding a Simarillo blend to them for a dry hop. 

Anyone know when the new crop from the S. Hemi comes to market?
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: morticaixavier on April 27, 2011, 02:41:48 PM
Somkeone posted the link to seven bridges already and they do have the NS for sale. I have noticed it and wondered. What is the flavour profile like?
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: pinnah on April 27, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
Somkeone posted the link to seven bridges already and they do have the NS for sale.


I ordered some from Brew Organic about a month ago, and they came in at 10.9%.
I see the ones they have now are at 12%.

Is it possible that they are the new 2011 crop? 
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: phillamb168 on April 28, 2011, 08:54:08 AM
Somkeone posted the link to seven bridges already and they do have the NS for sale. I have noticed it and wondered. What is the flavour profile like?

It's ridiculous. Smooth/syrupy with heavy tropical fruit, lychee, passionfruit, etc. Imagine what a somewhat bitter fruit cocktail would taste like, except made from fruits grown on AwesomeTrees, and that's what you get.

Full Nelson, ha! I like that! Maybe I'll do a Trafalgar Ale with Nelson and EKG or something.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: Mark G on April 28, 2011, 02:15:13 PM
Somkeone posted the link to seven bridges already and they do have the NS for sale. I have noticed it and wondered. What is the flavour profile like?

It's ridiculous. Smooth/syrupy with heavy tropical fruit, lychee, passionfruit, etc. Imagine what a somewhat bitter fruit cocktail would taste like, except made from fruits grown on AwesomeTrees, and that's what you get.

Full Nelson, ha! I like that! Maybe I'll do a Trafalgar Ale with Nelson and EKG or something.
Hmmm. Sounds tasty. I'll have to keep an eye out for them.
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: Hokerer on April 28, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
I have a Full Nelson bubbling away.  Building a cake of Denny's yeast for the future.
I might go with your (birds) suggestion of adding a Simarillo blend to them for a dry hop. 

Guess you're not talking about this Full Nelson, huh?

http://www.bluemountainbrewery.com/our-beer/ (http://www.bluemountainbrewery.com/our-beer/)

(http://www.bluemountainbrewery.com/wp-content/themes/cat4-theme/scripts/timthumb.php?src=http://www.bluemountainbrewery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/MG_9895.jpg&w=200&h=150&q=100&zc=1)
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: pinnah on April 28, 2011, 10:47:21 PM
 :D, shucks.  All the good names are taken.

What?  Blue Mountain Brewery.....The brewers name is Smack...they use Cascade in the Full Nelson....

Oh....Nelson County, Virginia.    ::)

Looks like a really cool brewery.  I like the hop farm and brewery combo!

Cheers.


Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: pinnah on January 28, 2013, 04:07:27 PM
Hey,

Just wondering if anyone tried a successful hop combo with the Sauvin?  Phil, did you try the Simarillo blend with it?

I was not too entranced with the silly white wine fruity by itself..in an APA anyway.  I was thinking about something else to cut it a bit...Chinook?  Simcoe?  Columbus?

Anything?
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: hoser on January 28, 2013, 04:41:39 PM
Hey,

Just wondering if anyone tried a successful hop combo with the Sauvin?  Phil, did you try the Simarillo blend with it?

I was not too entranced with the silly white wine fruity by itself..in an APA anyway.  I was thinking about something else to cut it a bit...Chinook?  Simcoe?  Columbus?

Anything?

Citra
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: mmitchem on January 28, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
Wow, didn't realize that the NS hops were so hard to come by these days. The owner of my LHBS traded me a pound of them for me to go and pick her up a case of Duck Rabbit Milk Stout from NC. Harder to get the Duck Rabbit here in VA it seems...
Title: Re: Nelson Sauvin hops
Post by: erockrph on January 28, 2013, 06:25:34 PM
I've mostly been playing with Nelson in unusual places where that white wine note would really be interesting (i.e., dry-hopped cider). Having said that, I think it's one of the best choices of the Southern Hemisphere hops to really drive an IPA. Aside from the white wine, I still get a lot of the typical west coast hop-style citrus. If you kept Nelson to 1/3 or less of your late hops, then I think that it would pair well with all the usual suspects - Amarillo, Centennial, Cascade, Simcoe, etc., without totally taking over with the white wine.