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Title: Another bad day
Post by: majorvices on April 11, 2011, 06:40:41 PM
Came in today to discover one of my freezers (that holds my 42 gallon fermenters) had died and my IPA was fermenting at 84 degrees. Then I walk into the cold room and someone had unplugged my 3 bbl fermenter (it has a heat wrap around it along with insulation), and that IPA was all the way down to 52 degrees. I'm pretty sure I can bring the 3 bbl batch of IPA back as the yeast hadn;t flocculated and the beer was still fermenting. But the other batch ... damn. Just sucks.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: gordonstrong on April 11, 2011, 06:44:20 PM
If you blend them, it's just like fermenting at 68, right?

OK, nothing is likely to be funny for you now.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: bluesman on April 11, 2011, 06:57:50 PM
Wow...that's a real let down. I guess there's no way to save it.  :-\

How far along was the fermentation?
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: euge on April 11, 2011, 07:00:02 PM
You could call it your pop skull IPA.

Sorry dude. I guess problems happen at your level too...
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: dak0415 on April 11, 2011, 07:04:24 PM
I had a similar event but the fermentation had been going for 7 days before the freezer failed.  That one was an ESB and the batch actually survived.  I didn't harvest the yeast, though.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: majorvices on April 11, 2011, 07:14:01 PM
I had pitched the yeast at 64 on Friday, but didn't notice the freezer wasn't working so it spiked over the weekend. Been having a string of bad luck here lately, including having to dump a batch that I pushed the yeast too long on. just frustrating to have to lose another one already.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: tumarkin on April 11, 2011, 07:21:01 PM
sorry, man, that's rough.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: denny on April 11, 2011, 07:24:03 PM
Sorry to hear it, Keith.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: tschmidlin on April 11, 2011, 08:04:21 PM
Ah, bummer.  No fun to dump it.  Sorry man.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: hamiltont on April 11, 2011, 08:40:09 PM
Would something like this http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-Weather-Temperature-Humidity-Wireless/dp/B0037KMRVU (http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-Weather-Temperature-Humidity-Wireless/dp/B0037KMRVU) be of any benefit in the future?   I'm assuming you're talking about your brewery & not your homebrewing.  Just throwin' it out there.  Cheers!!!
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: tschmidlin on April 11, 2011, 08:58:10 PM
Would something like this http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-Weather-Temperature-Humidity-Wireless/dp/B0037KMRVU (http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-Weather-Temperature-Humidity-Wireless/dp/B0037KMRVU) be of any benefit in the future?   I'm assuming you're talking about your brewery & not your homebrewing.  Just throwin' it out there.  Cheers!!!
Genius.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: bluesman on April 11, 2011, 11:07:59 PM
Would something like this http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-Weather-Temperature-Humidity-Wireless/dp/B0037KMRVU (http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-Weather-Temperature-Humidity-Wireless/dp/B0037KMRVU) be of any benefit in the future?   I'm assuming you're talking about your brewery & not your homebrewing.  Just throwin' it out there.  Cheers!!!

Shazaam!  8)
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: punatic on April 12, 2011, 05:56:07 AM
Have you considered making white dog?  If you make your cuts right you can pull the hearts and leave the heads and tails behind.

Never drain to waste!

One man's ceiling is another man's floor...   ;)
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: weazletoe on April 12, 2011, 10:47:26 PM
 Sorry to hgear that Major. Sounds like a typical brew day for me. Difference is, I making12 gallons, have about 25$ in it, and I'm not trying to make a buck doing it. I can only imagine your pain.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: tubercle on April 13, 2011, 12:44:07 AM
Go ahead and bottle and put you competitor's labels on it.  :o

 No, bad thought.  :(
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: mnblues on April 13, 2011, 01:12:31 AM
Our lab freezers have an alarm system that auto-calls some lucy sap (me) if they fail. Might be something like that on the market.
EDIT just saw Hamilton's post. Way ahead of me!  :)
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: majorvices on April 13, 2011, 04:27:06 PM
I think I will get one of those alert systems for my cold room where my big fermenters are. But I'll chance it on the small freezers. Thanks for pointing those out.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: beersk on April 13, 2011, 08:03:39 PM
Sorry to hear about it, Keith.  Hopefully it doesn't happen again, especially if you try out that awesome alert system.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on April 16, 2011, 03:42:44 AM
Sorry to hear about it too.

Would it feel better if I tell you that I have dumped my first 75 gal down the drain?
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: majorvices on April 19, 2011, 05:56:09 PM
No. It doesn't.

Especially after today. thought I had skated by on the 3bbl batch becuase the bottom tasted awesome. But after I ran it to the bright tanks I took another sample and it is diacetyl city. I was really bummed out because th bottom tasted so excellent. My guess is the beer closest to the yeast had all the diacetyl absorbed but the majority of the beer wasn't touched.

Gonna try to pitch some active S-189 and see if I can't clean it up but not holding out too much hope. Wouldn't be so bad had I not had to dump a previous batched before this one and had I not lost that 40 gallons from fermenting at 85. I think I have dumped more beer lately than I used to brew in an entire year.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: euge on April 19, 2011, 06:13:18 PM
It's a real expensive PITA but would expect this to happen from time to time to keep quality as priority one.

Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: majorvices on April 19, 2011, 06:19:37 PM
Sure, from time to time. But I have dumped back to back to back batches. Only one was due to infection. All the other was due to mechanical failure or negligence. And every one has been on my IPA, which is not cheap at all to brew. And we are running severely low, if not out right running out all over town. Plus we have a big brew fest coming up next month.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: euge on April 19, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
Uh Oh! I'm sure you'll weather it. Forecast is for long days ahead.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: bluesman on April 19, 2011, 06:37:47 PM
Sorry to hear the bad news again.

Running a brewery is a tough business as I witnessed from watching brewmasters. Bad batches, strained capacity and just plain bad luck can really drag the business down but hopefully you are at the end of your bad luck and will bounce back now.

Try to keep the faith Keith.   :)
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: majorvices on April 19, 2011, 09:20:30 PM
If you guys really want to encourage me try espousing the virtues of krauesensing.   ;)

I'm gonna pitch about 3 gallons of active S-189 into bright tanks and see if that works. Gonna have to set my cold room down to 55 degrees or so for a few days. Keeping fingers crossed and uttering prayers to beer saints.

Weirdest thing, though. Bottom of fermenter tatsted great. Top tasted thick with diacetyl. Makes sense I guess that the beer closest to the yeast was clean. The beer also appeared to be the same gravity throughout (same reading pulling from bottom as from top.) :-\
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: tygo on April 19, 2011, 09:40:49 PM
Sorry to hear about your woes.  It would be really cool if the additional yeast cleaned this one up.
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: weazletoe on April 19, 2011, 11:07:51 PM
Hey Major....maybe some good tunes would make ya feel better. I love this one on a bad day. Heck, even a good day for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDSud7vAH_0
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: denny on April 19, 2011, 11:08:26 PM
Krausening is da BOMB!  It'll fix ya right up!
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: bluesman on April 20, 2011, 12:41:32 AM
Krausening is da BOMB!  It'll fix ya right up!

I have to agree with Denny...the best thing to rid of diacetyl is active yeast.  :)
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: majorvices on April 20, 2011, 12:53:56 AM
Hey Major....maybe some good tunes would make ya feel better. I love this one on a bad day. Heck, even a good day for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDSud7vAH_0

That's the other thing that sucks ... dial up.  ::) But your prolly trying to Rick Roll me anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Another bad day
Post by: majorvices on April 20, 2011, 12:55:03 AM
Krausening is da BOMB!  It'll fix ya right up!

I have to agree with Denny...the best thing to rid of diacetyl is active yeast.  :)

Thanks. That's what I needed to hear.  ;D