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Title: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 15, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
Is this yeast slow to get going?  I pitched some about 18 hours ago and no activity that I can see.  Not worried yet but I just wondered if this is common for this yeast.
I pitched the yeast from a 3L starter that I prepared from a previous starter.  Visually it appeared to be a pretty good amount based on how much sediment I got when I made the original starter with the smack pack. 
For those of you who've used this yeast, how long would you expect to wait to see some activity?  Just want to know when I can start worrying.  I can't RDWHAHB - no HB on hand.
Thanks
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: morticaixavier on April 15, 2011, 04:14:59 PM
Can't speak to that yeast in particular but if no HB RDWHACB (Commercial brew). Wouildn't worry yet
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Rhoobarb on April 15, 2011, 07:14:39 PM
I'm curious, too, as I made a two 1500ml starters of 2112 last night for a brew on Saturday. I've used this yeast once before, but it's been so long ago that I can't recall much. The fact that I can't recall much makes me think nothing out of the ordinary happened.  Whenever I think of this yeast, I'm reminded of Rush.  And I hate Rush.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Beer Monger on April 15, 2011, 07:25:28 PM
I'm curious, too, as I made a two 1500ml starters of 2112 last night for a brew on Saturday. I've used this yeast once before, but it's been so long ago that I can't recall much. The fact that I can't recall much makes me think nothing out of the ordinary happened.  Whenever I think of this yeast, I'm reminded of Rush.  And I hate Rush.

Hey!  How can you hate Rush?  They f'n rock! 

Who do you like?  Justin Beiber?  The Jonas Bros?  Hannah Montanna?  ;)  lol
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Rhoobarb on April 15, 2011, 07:52:39 PM
Who do you like?  Justin Beiber?  The Jonas Bros?  Hannah Montanna?
Who? ;D  Never heard 'em before.  Why, are they on your I-Pod right now? ;)  Nope, never a Rush fan.  I was more into New Wave/Power pop/Pop-punk back in the day. Pretenders, Cheap Trick, Cars and that ilk.

Back to the question at hand, what temp are you at? I'm planning to ferment ~60oF
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Beer Monger on April 15, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Who do you like?  Justin Beiber?  The Jonas Bros?  Hannah Montanna?
Who? ;D  Never heard 'em before.  Why, are they on your I-Pod right now? ;)  Nope, never a Rush fan.  I was more into New Wave/Power pop/Pop-punk back in the day. Pretenders, Cheap Trick, Cars and that ilk.

Back to the question at hand, what temp are you at? I'm planning to ferment ~60oF

That should work.  The temp range for that yeast is 58 - 68 degrees.  You could even go a bit colder than 60. 

(P.S.  Rush RULES!  lol) 
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: EHall on April 15, 2011, 08:00:08 PM
RUSH ROCKS!
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: tonyp on April 15, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
And the yeeeeeeeast shaaaaaall innnnnherrrrrrit theeee earrrrrrrth...
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on April 16, 2011, 03:32:55 AM
Back to OP.
You are pitching it at lower temp so you should pitch more yeast.
Lagers and Hybrids have longer lag time.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 16, 2011, 04:07:06 AM
Who do you like?  Justin Beiber?  The Jonas Bros?  Hannah Montanna?
Who? ;D  Never heard 'em before.  Why, are they on your I-Pod right now? ;)  Nope, never a Rush fan.  I was more into New Wave/Power pop/Pop-punk back in the day. Pretenders, Cheap Trick, Cars and that ilk.

Back to the question at hand, what temp are you at? I'm planning to ferment ~60oF

First to address the Rush issue.  I have a long-standing opinion that most women hate Rush.  I'll make the assumption that this applies in this case.  Personally, I love Rush and the fact that they are Canadian makes it even better.  Of course, so is Justin Beiber so there goes that logic out the window...

I am fermenting two batches right now, the first is in a water bath with a towel wrapped around it.  I'm not bothering with ice but the temp of the water is about 56-58 so the beer is likely about 60.  This second on is in a cold corner of the room without the water bath because I don't have another tub right now and it is probably 62 in the room so maybe 64 for the beer.  I actually wanted to see if there was any difference between the two given the temp.  My last one was done at 60 and turned out very good.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Hokerer on April 16, 2011, 04:15:54 PM
First to address the Rush issue.  I have a long-standing opinion that most women hate Rush.  I'll make the assumption that this applies in this case.  Personally, I love Rush and the fact that they are Canadian makes it even better.  Of course, so is Justin Beiber so there goes that logic out the window...

Toss Celine Dion in there too and that logic is really trashed
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 16, 2011, 04:21:55 PM
First to address the Rush issue.  I have a long-standing opinion that most women hate Rush.  I'll make the assumption that this applies in this case.  Personally, I love Rush and the fact that they are Canadian makes it even better.  Of course, so is Justin Beiber so there goes that logic out the window...

Toss Celine Dion in there too and that logic is really trashed
Most of us don't acknowledge Celine.  As far as I know, she's an alien who just claimed to be from Canada for the health care.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Bret on April 16, 2011, 04:29:21 PM
RUSH ROCKS!
This.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 16, 2011, 04:46:26 PM
First to address the Rush issue.  I have a long-standing opinion that most women hate Rush.  I'll make the assumption that this applies in this case.  Personally, I love Rush and the fact that they are Canadian makes it even better.  Of course, so is Justin Beiber so there goes that logic out the window...

Toss Celine Dion in there too and that logic is really trashed
Most of us don't acknowledge Celine.  As far as I know, she's an alien who just claimed to be from Canada for the health care.

I should be clear, I mean outer space alien, not illegal alien, like from another planet.  Probably Uranus.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: jamminbrew on April 16, 2011, 05:49:07 PM
First to address the Rush issue.  I have a long-standing opinion that most women hate Rush.  I'll make the assumption that this applies in this case.  Personally, I love Rush and the fact that they are Canadian makes it even better.  Of course, so is Justin Beiber so there goes that logic out the window...

Toss Celine Dion in there too and that logic is really trashed
Most of us don't acknowledge Celine.  As far as I know, she's an alien who just claimed to be from Canada for the health care.

I should be clear, I mean outer space alien, not illegal alien, like from another planet.  Probably Uranus.
"Let us not forget that this is not the first troubling thing to come from Canada..." "Now now, the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on many occasions>"
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: tschmidlin on April 16, 2011, 06:49:32 PM
"Let us not forget that this is not the first troubling thing to come from Canada..." "Now now, the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on many occasions>"
They're not even a real country anyway.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAYMJnO9LBQ);)
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: jamminbrew on April 16, 2011, 06:51:04 PM
"Let us not forget that this is not the first troubling thing to come from Canada..." "Now now, the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on many occasions>"
They're not even a real country anyway.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAYMJnO9LBQ);)
+1!!!  awesome
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: tschmidlin on April 16, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
"Let us not forget that this is not the first troubling thing to come from Canada..." "Now now, the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on many occasions>"
They're not even a real country anyway.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAYMJnO9LBQ);)
+1!!!  awesome
This one is my favorite (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b12b7ac0fb/i-m-not-your-buddy-friend) ;D
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: punatic on April 16, 2011, 07:27:57 PM
RUSH ROCKS!

(http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/partly-politics/rush%20smoke.jpg)
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Will's Swill on April 17, 2011, 02:30:50 PM
Canada is my favorite state.  Rush can lick my

What's that, dear?  No, I'm not on my beer thing again, I promise I'm working on taxes.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 17, 2011, 03:46:21 PM
If I can just bring us back to the OP for a second, the beer is now 60 hours old and still no activity in the fermentation lock.  I opened the pail last night and there was a layer of foam on top with a very dark scum on top but that is probably hops residue since my hops screening isn't perfect.
This morning, some of the foam has subsided and there are still bubbles on the top but it's not very thick.
I guess something is happening in there so I'll leave it alone but I have yet to see any activity in the airlock which would make me think that this is an incredibly slow fermentation.  Even my lager is bubbling about twice an hour at 40 degrees.
The OG was 1.044, the fermentation temp is roughly 62 degrees. 

Is this slow fermentation normal when underpitching?  Like I said, I thought visually I had lots of yeast sediment in the starter but maybe it wasn't viable.

Now I am beginning to worry...
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: punatic on April 17, 2011, 07:21:33 PM
The foaming you describe sounds like fermentation.  Some plastic buckets have lids that do not seal completely.  Perhaps yours does not seal tight enough to allow pressure to build up and force CO2 out through the airlock. 

To be safe, can you pitch more yeast?
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gordonstrong on April 17, 2011, 08:04:23 PM
Actually, it does sort of sound like a lame seal on your bucket because it sounds like you have visual confirmation of fermentation.  What you described is what it looks like.  Stretch some saran wrap across the top and see if it starts bulging upward after a little bit.  Or just take a gravity reading and see if it's changed.  But part of this is troubleshooting your seals, I think.

Oh, and two more things.  Temples of Syrinx rocks and Neil Peart is God. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0C5Uxpd3c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0C5Uxpd3c)
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 17, 2011, 08:37:36 PM
I'm thinking maybe you are right on the seal.  There isn't even a rubber ring or anything on these lids.  They just snap on. I wasn't thrilled when I bought them but they were all I could find without an investment in glass.  I know that the gas will take the path of least resistance.
I'll try the saran wrap thing and see what happens.  Or, maybe I'll run a wrap of duct tape around the lid, see if that pushed gas out the airlock. 
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: tschmidlin on April 17, 2011, 09:01:07 PM
Oh, and two more things.  Temples of Syrinx rocks and Neil Peart is God. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0C5Uxpd3c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0C5Uxpd3c)
I like YYZ so much I named a computer after it.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: chumley on April 18, 2011, 03:36:35 AM
Oh, and two more things.  Temples of Syrinx rocks and Neil Peart is God. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0C5Uxpd3c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0C5Uxpd3c)
I like YYZ so much I named a computer after it.

In my opinion, if you are naming your computer anything other than "you miserable %^&#$#@" you have a problem.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Beer Monger on April 18, 2011, 01:14:38 PM
Oh, and two more things.  Temples of Syrinx rocks and Neil Peart is God. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0C5Uxpd3c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0C5Uxpd3c)
I like YYZ so much I named a computer after it.

Nice.  Great song too. 


So... how's that yeast goin'? 
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Rhoobarb on April 18, 2011, 01:58:31 PM
Mine sat in the garage at ~55oF overnight, then (after ~17 hours) I moved it to an area that is ~60-62oF.  I got visual confirmation of fermentation ~3 hours after that.  So, ~20 hours for me.

And Canada gave us Neil Young.  'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Beer Monger on April 18, 2011, 02:25:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFs5l9K--7M&feature=related

Except for Rush, SCTV, The Kids in the Hall and a few other things... 

 ;D   lol

Oh, and by the way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eubi9YI2dKE

;D 
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 18, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
Sigh....

How did this thread go off the rails so quickly?  Oh well, I work in the US so I learned a long time ago how to deal with Americans...

As for the yeast, it still seems very slow and sluggish.  Yesterday the krausen was gone and there were just a few bubbles on top, I'll probably take a gravity later today to see how much it has changed. 
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: punatic on April 18, 2011, 04:39:22 PM

And Canada gave us Neil Young.  'Nuff said.


Yeah that's true, and we've been trying to give him back for the last 45 years.

gmac I think your hydrometer will tell a happy tale.  From what you describe it sounds like fermentation to me.  Lager yeast are "bottom fermenters."
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: tschmidlin on April 18, 2011, 05:02:57 PM
Sigh....

How did this thread go off the rails so quickly?  Oh well, I work in the US so I learned a long time ago how to deal with Americans...
;D I live in Seattle and learned to deal with Canadians a long time ago too.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 18, 2011, 08:09:37 PM
So I took a bunch of gravities this afternoon.  This all seems so weird.

ESB - brewed March 30, OG 1.054 - Today 1.022 - fermenting at cellar temp - 65 degrees
Cali Common - Brewed April 7 OG 1.060 - Today 1.026 - in water bath in cellar - 60 degree water bath
Cali Common - Brewed April 14 OG 1.044 - Today 1.014 - fermenting at cellar temp - 65 degrees

So, this one that I'm not seeing any activity on has dropped by 40 points in 4 days while the one that is 2 weeks old (and admittedly a bit colder) hasn't dropped 40 points in 2 weeks.  And the ESB that I'd really like to be drinking right now is going even slower. 

I tasted them all and they all taste fantastic so someday I hope to be enjoying them but right now I'm growing impatient.  I can't even brew again because I was planning on harvesting the ESB yeast for the next batch. 
I am going to have to break down and buy beer...
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: dak0415 on April 18, 2011, 08:35:31 PM
I tasted them all and they all taste fantastic so someday I hope to be enjoying them but right now I'm growing impatient.  I can't even brew again because I was planning on harvesting the ESB yeast for the next batch.  
I am going to have to break down and buy beer...

NOOOOOooooo.....

What yeast on the ESB?
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 18, 2011, 08:44:32 PM
Wyeast London Ale lll on the ESB.  Not sure the #.

Checked my other brew, a maibock done on March 22.  OG 1.062, Today 1.022 but this spent a lot of time at about 34 degrees in the cold room so I expect it to be going slow.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Will's Swill on April 19, 2011, 12:40:28 AM

I like YYZ so much I named a computer after it.

I like beer better, so that's how I name mine (though their names are secretly variants of %&#&*%^$# ).  I was on a low budget project and needed to steal servers (I didn't have my own hardware money) and I found a full but disused half-rack in the server room.  They had names like Thriller, Beat It, Billie Jean, etc.  I stole them and renamed them with a nod to the real MJ.  They became Left Hand, Wynkoop, Avery, Odell, and ... Coors.  That last one was our old slow beast that everyone hated but was cheap and had huge storage capacity built in.

Back to the topic, the exact same thing happened to me a little over a year ago.  Turned out there was a small crack on the edge of the lid that had gone unnoticed.  That's when I fully switched from buckets to carboys for primary.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Tristan on April 19, 2011, 04:18:27 PM
Wyeast London Ale lll on the ESB.  Not sure the #.

Some people find they need to rouse the yeast every day with this strain and some of the other highly floculant english strains.  You might give that a shot.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: bluesman on April 19, 2011, 04:30:26 PM
For the batches ranging in the 1.020's try warming them up a bit to around 70 degrees and then gently rouse the yeast. Check the gravity after a couple days and let us know the results. Sometimes yeast will flocculate too soon if the temps get too low for them depending on yeast stain and other variables.

I use to play in a RUSH tribute band many moons ago and my favorite song to play was YYZ. Although we never performed it live because it was too difficult for the drummer to lay down all the timing and groove changes as Neal is "the man".  8)
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: tschmidlin on April 19, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
I use to play in a RUSH tribute band many moons ago and my favorite song to play was YYZ. Although we never performed it live because it was too difficult for the drummer to lay down all the timing and groove changes as Neal is "the man".  8)
Were you Geddy or Alex?  What was your band's name?
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 19, 2011, 05:16:27 PM
I gave the carboy a good swirling, hopefully that will wake the yeast up a bit.  I'll try to raise the temp a bit too.  I'll maybe give them a swirl again tomorrow and see what's going on. 

Rush is one of my bucket list bands.  Never seen them but probably should before they kick the bucket.  Personally La Villa Strangiato (spelling?) is higher on my list than YYZ.  If anyone is ever flying to Canada, it's easy to remember because YYZ is the airport code for Toronto.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Rhoobarb on April 19, 2011, 05:51:28 PM
Wyeast London Ale lll on the ESB.  Not sure the #.

Some people find they need to rouse the yeast every day with this strain and some of the other highly floculant english strains.  You might give that a shot.

Agreed.  I have used this before (WY1318) and in my experience, it took forever to ferment out and clear.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gordonstrong on April 19, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
Rush is one of my bucket list bands.  Never seen them but probably should before they kick the bucket.  Personally La Villa Strangiato (spelling?) is higher on my list than YYZ.  If anyone is ever flying to Canada, it's easy to remember because YYZ is the airport code for Toronto.

Saw them in '80 (Permanent Waves), '81 (Moving Pictures), '82 (Signals).  Moving Pictures is still one of my favs.  Wore the grooves out of that one.

La Villa Strangiato and YYZ.  Gee, what do those have in common that makes them great songs?

Anyone notice how the riff in La Villa Strangiato sounds like the theme played in the old Bugs Bunny episode with the big hairy orange monster in the haunted house?
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: bluesman on April 20, 2011, 01:37:47 AM
I use to play in a RUSH tribute band many moons ago and my favorite song to play was YYZ. Although we never performed it live because it was too difficult for the drummer to lay down all the timing and groove changes as Neal is "the man".  8)
Were you Geddy or Alex?  What was your band's name?

Geddy Lee...the band's name was Coliseum. Some of the most dynamic music I ever had the opportunity to play. AFAIAC...Rush is one of the greatest rock trios ever to grace the planet.
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: tschmidlin on April 20, 2011, 06:20:45 AM
I use to play in a RUSH tribute band many moons ago and my favorite song to play was YYZ. Although we never performed it live because it was too difficult for the drummer to lay down all the timing and groove changes as Neal is "the man".  8)
Were you Geddy or Alex?  What was your band's name?

Geddy Lee...the band's name was Coliseum. Some of the most dynamic music I ever had the opportunity to play. AFAIAC...Rush is one of the greatest rock trios ever to grace the planet.
Nice. :)  I always thought a great name for a Rush tribute band would be "Glory".  Any guesses why?
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: punatic on April 20, 2011, 07:32:16 AM
I use to play in a RUSH tribute band many moons ago and my favorite song to play was YYZ. Although we never performed it live because it was too difficult for the drummer to lay down all the timing and groove changes as Neal is "the man".  8)
Were you Geddy or Alex?  What was your band's name?

Geddy Lee...the band's name was Coliseum. Some of the most dynamic music I ever had the opportunity to play. AFAIAC...Rush is one of the greatest rock trios ever to grace the planet.
Nice. :)  I always thought a great name for a Rush tribute band would be "Glory".  Any guesses why?

That's the nickname for Wyeast 2112?
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Beer Monger on April 20, 2011, 01:55:11 PM
I gave the carboy a good swirling, hopefully that will wake the yeast up a bit.  I'll try to raise the temp a bit too.  I'll maybe give them a swirl again tomorrow and see what's going on. 

Rush is one of my bucket list bands.  Never seen them but probably should before they kick the bucket.  Personally La Villa Strangiato (spelling?) is higher on my list than YYZ.  If anyone is ever flying to Canada, it's easy to remember because YYZ is the airport code for Toronto.

I saw them on this last tour when they came to the White River Amphitheater near Seattle.  Great show.  It was the 5th time I've seen them in my life.  It's amazing, but they almost seem to get better with age.  Alex can still hit all the riffs and Geddy's voice is still amazing. 

And Neil...  He's already the greatest drummer in the World but that's not enough for him.  He continues to learn and to add new percussion instruments to his arsenal. 

For this tour they're playing "Moving Pictures" in it's entirety (starting after the break), and the encore is La Villa Strangiato.  Awesome.  :) 

Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: bluesman on April 20, 2011, 04:32:51 PM
I use to play in a RUSH tribute band many moons ago and my favorite song to play was YYZ. Although we never performed it live because it was too difficult for the drummer to lay down all the timing and groove changes as Neal is "the man".  8)
Were you Geddy or Alex?  What was your band's name?

Geddy Lee...the band's name was Coliseum. Some of the most dynamic music I ever had the opportunity to play. AFAIAC...Rush is one of the greatest rock trios ever to grace the planet.
Nice. :)  I always thought a great name for a Rush tribute band would be "Glory".  Any guesses why?

From the track "Everday Glory"?
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: tschmidlin on April 20, 2011, 04:47:57 PM
That's the nickname for Wyeast 2112?

Not that I know of. :)

From the track "Everday Glory"?

Nope.  It's from The Big Wheel. ;D ;D


Quote
Well, I was only a kid, cruising around in a trance
Prisoner of fate, victim of circumstance
I was lined up for glory, but the tickets sold out in advance

;D
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: punatic on April 20, 2011, 05:52:26 PM
That's the nickname for Wyeast 2112?

Not that I know of. :)


Oh wait... That is the subject of this thread...

I'm so confused!
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Rhoobarb on April 20, 2011, 06:08:52 PM
Oh wait... That is the subject of this thread... I'm so confused!
I thought we were talking about Gordon Lightfoot? The Guess Who? BTO? BNL?  Didn't it have something to do with Canada? Wyeast 3864-PC?
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 21, 2011, 08:44:09 PM
For the batches ranging in the 1.020's try warming them up a bit to around 70 degrees and then gently rouse the yeast. Check the gravity after a couple days and let us know the results. Sometimes yeast will flocculate too soon if the temps get too low for them depending on yeast stain and other variables.

I shook the ESB up well and put the heating pad under it.  It's been on all day and the bubble rate has gone from 1 per minute at best to 1 every 4 to 5 seconds with a resurgence of krausen.  I think we've brought this one back to life.  Thanks.

Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gordonstrong on April 21, 2011, 08:46:29 PM
gently rouse the yeast.
I shook the ESB up well

I hope the shaking didn't introduce more oxygen into it. If it does, you could tell people you were shooting for Redhook ESB...
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: Beer Monger on April 22, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
That's the nickname for Wyeast 2112?

Not that I know of. :)


Oh wait... That is the subject of this thread...

I'm so confused!

It's about how playing Rush for your fermenters will make the 2112 strain work better!  (It groves to the beat & does it's thing!)  ;) 
Title: Re: Wyeast 2112
Post by: gmac on April 22, 2011, 01:42:23 PM
gently rouse the yeast.
I shook the ESB up well

I hope the shaking didn't introduce more oxygen into it. If it does, you could tell people you were shooting for Redhook ESB...

I left the fermentation lock in and swirled more than shook so I'm hoping it's ok.  Had a lot of CO2 escaping the airlock (and some beer) so I don't think it got oxygenated too badly.  You know for a hobby that we focuses on RDWHAHB, you guys are good at finding things for me to worry about... ;)