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Title: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 18, 2011, 12:43:11 AM
So I am trying to get into all grain.
So most likely i can find the answer to all my questions through reading other peoples post but to be honest i am lazy lol.

So should I go with a direct fire set up for mashing with a low btu burner and a pot with a screen flase bottom  and valve set-up?

Or a cooler mash tun set like http://www.midwestsupplies.com/single-infusion-mash-tun.html

And i have been looking at recipes i am interested in and they have set set temp like 120 degrees for 30 min then 30 min at 150 degrees and so forth. how do you do that and what is the point of doing that?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: Hokerer on April 18, 2011, 12:49:02 AM
Easiest way to take care of the mash portion of going all grain is to batch sparge in a rectangular cooler.  A great example of such a setup is at http://hbd.org/cascade/dennybrew/ (http://hbd.org/cascade/dennybrew/).  No need to go with those way too expensive round type coolers.

As for step mashing (the mashing at different temperature steps that you mention), it is almost never required.  A single temperature infusion mash works just fine.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: gmac on April 18, 2011, 01:49:07 AM
I can't agree enough with Hokerer.  Look at Denny's site and go from there.  I was going to go with a more complicated plan and I was talked out of it and I'm happy I was.
I've done 6 all grains with the Coleman Extreme mash tun and they have all gone amazingly well.  My efficiency on the last batch was approaching 90%.  Follow Denny's advice to get started and you'll do fine. 
I'm doing single-step infusions, no decoction, no step mashing or anything like that and it couldn't be easier.  Start this way and then move to something later if you think you want to experiment.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: jayoun on April 18, 2011, 02:37:31 AM
Absolutely agree, there is no reason to spend lots of money on a round cooler, a rectangular one will work just as well if not better.  There are quite a few cheaper rectangular coolers that have better insulation which will help to maintain your mash temperatures longer.  The dennybrew link is a fantastic resource to get started in all grain brewing.

I too am doing only single infusion mashes and batch sparging.  Like hokerer said a step mash is almost never required as most of the malts we can buy in America are fully modified.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: oscarvan on April 19, 2011, 08:22:28 AM
Edited to remove link to stolen How to Brew
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 19, 2011, 06:59:16 PM
Ok i normally do 5 gallon bataches at around 6% i think i might try going higher on the abv but i saw this Cooler http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-70-Quart-Xtreme-Cooler-Blue/dp/B000G64I1A
Onsale on amazon does it matter it my mas isnt deep?
So would it matter if i had a small batch in a big cooler like this?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: Hokerer on April 19, 2011, 07:02:38 PM
Ok i normally do 5 gallon bataches at around 6% i think i might try going higher on the abv but i saw this Cooler http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-70-Quart-Xtreme-Cooler-Blue/dp/B000G64I1A
Onsale on amazon does it matter it my mas isnt deep?
So would it matter if i had a small batch in a big cooler like this?

You'll be fine.  Tons of folks on here use that exact cooler for 5-gallon batches.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 19, 2011, 09:57:54 PM
...Another question.

So i dont think i need a 70 quart cooler quite yet.

So my question is this. I either want to do 5 gallon high gravity likr 8-12% brews so all i would need is atleast a 40 quart cooler right?

And would i be alright with a 20 dollar target cooler or do i "need" to have a cooler like a coleman extreme?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: gmac on April 19, 2011, 10:18:29 PM
...Another question.

So i dont think i need a 70 quart cooler quite yet.

So my question is this. I either want to do 5 gallon high gravity likr 8-12% brews so all i would need is atleast a 40 quart cooler right?

And would i be alright with a 20 dollar target cooler or do i "need" to have a cooler like a coleman extreme?


I'm no expert but for another $20 you can get a cooler that will do everything you'll probably need.  The Coleman Extreme is highly rated by most because it holds the heat so well which is imporant and also because the drain is perfect for converting to a mash tun with practically no dead space.  If you leave a quart of good wort in the bottom of the $20 cooler, it won't be a very good investment after a couple batches.  I'm sure the cheaper one will do the job, especially if you put a blanket over it but for $39 for the one you listed, why worry about it?  Amortized over 500 batches, it's pennies a batch difference....  Plus, if you keep the drain parts and if you decide to quit, you'll still have a darn good cooler.

Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: euge on April 19, 2011, 11:02:51 PM
Get the 70qt Coleman Extreme. You will be able to do a lot more with it than a 40qt.

I didn't remove the drain at all with mine. Just shoved the tubing through the drain and it fits snug with no leaks. It's almost as if they had homebrewers in mind when this was designed. Virtually no dead space.

The beauty of it is I can pull the tubing out and then have a cooler to take anywhere such as the lake. A real multitasker!
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: denny on April 19, 2011, 11:04:41 PM
...Another question.

So i dont think i need a 70 quart cooler quite yet.

So my question is this. I either want to do 5 gallon high gravity likr 8-12% brews so all i would need is atleast a 40 quart cooler right?

And would i be alright with a 20 dollar target cooler or do i "need" to have a cooler like a coleman extreme?


I use a 48 qt. cooler.  It's a plain old Rubbermaid, no "extreme" anything.  I've used it for just under 400 batches oif beer, so it must be OK.  I can fit in about 28 lb. of grain at about 1 qt./lb. which allows me to do 5 gal. of beers up to a 1.100 OG.  OTOH, if I was gonna do it again, I'd get the 70 qt.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: tygo on April 19, 2011, 11:07:02 PM
I'll add another vote for the 70 qt.  Like Denny said you can do it with less but the bigger one gives you a little more breathing space and the flexibility to go with bigger mashes with a little higher water to grist ratio to make the mash easier to work with.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 19, 2011, 11:23:05 PM
I went with this cooler
http://www.target.com/Igloo-Family-Cooler-Red-Quart/dp/B002VPSTYQ/ref=sc_qi_detailbutton

Hope this one will work for the time being.

My thinking was.
I am a poor college student so i am trying to stay on the cheap.
And if i use this cooler for the time being later down the road i can buy the one you guys been talking about and change this cooler back and just using it for camping and such.

I have all the other parts so all that's holding me back is the cooler.
Will this one hold temp and could i get a alteast a 5 gallon 10abv beer out of this.

What abv does 1.100 get me?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 19, 2011, 11:25:27 PM
Also i had a 20 gift card to target and i cant justify paying 80 dollars for a cooler at the moment. If the 20 cooler doesnt work then i am only out 20 dollars.

Thanks so far for helping out
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: a10t2 on April 20, 2011, 12:53:00 AM
I have all the other parts so all that's holding me back is the cooler.
Will this one hold temp and could i get a alteast a 5 gallon 10abv beer out of this.

What abv does 1.100 get me?

That cooler will be good. You'd have fewer problems if you mashed in a blue one, but nothing serious.

1.100 would be an 8-12% ABV beer. A 52 qt cooler should get you up to at least 1.120. http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: a10t2 on April 20, 2011, 12:53:56 AM
Read.
edited by mod

You know you can get HTB online *legally*, right? http://www.howtobrew.com/
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: bluesman on April 20, 2011, 01:05:54 AM
I also recommend reading "How to Brew" by John Palmer. His website...http://www.howtobrew.com/intro.html

I have a direct fired mash tun on my brewstand and love it, but I also use a cooler mash tun inspired by Denny Conn that I still use today and love the simplicity of it.

When I talk to new homebrewers just starting out with all-grain brewing, I always recommend a cooler mash tun because of it's ease of use and it' ability to make damn good beer. Once you've mastered the cooler mash tun and batch sparging, and you decide that you want more versatility, then move into a direct fired or other type of heated tun.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ccarlson on April 20, 2011, 01:09:31 AM
How To Brew is the only book you'll ever need, IMO. Everything else you need to know you can find online or through the many forums. Actually, as noted, that book is available online as well.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: tygo on April 20, 2011, 01:10:02 AM
That cooler will be good. You'd have fewer problems if you mashed in a blue one, but nothing serious.

My first thought on looking at the picture.  That red will suck the efficiency right outta your mash.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: euge on April 20, 2011, 01:22:30 AM
Read.

edited by mod to remove link

You know you can get HTB online *legally*, right? http://www.howtobrew.com/
How To Brew is the only book you'll ever need, IMO. Everything else you need to know you can find online or through the many forums. Actually, as noted, that book is available online as well.

The third edition is less than $20 on amazon IIRC. Support Mr Palmer. After all he has given to the homebrewing community it would be a real shame to infringe on his copyright by distributing illegal versions of his book.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 20, 2011, 01:30:34 AM
That cooler will be good. You'd have fewer problems if you mashed in a blue one, but nothing serious.

My first thought on looking at the picture.  That red will suck the efficiency right outta your mash.


Why will it suck the efficiency out of it?
What my real question should be since i really only paid 10 bucks for it and all my other parts and such can be transfered to a different cooler later on and i want to get right into all grain b/c i have had the itch for like a year now will this cooler for the time being lol?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: denny on April 20, 2011, 01:38:31 AM
Read.

edited by mod to remove link

You know you can get HTB online *legally*, right? http://www.howtobrew.com/

Guess I'd better make John aware of that "other" link.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: tygo on April 20, 2011, 01:45:21 AM
That cooler will be good. You'd have fewer problems if you mashed in a blue one, but nothing serious.

My first thought on looking at the picture.  That red will suck the efficiency right outta your mash.


Why will it suck the efficiency out of it?
What my real question should be since i really only paid 10 bucks for it and all my other parts and such can be transfered to a different cooler later on and i want to get right into all grain b/c i have had the itch for like a year now will this cooler for the time being lol?

Yeah, we're just kidding.  The cooler you got will work just fine.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: kgs on April 20, 2011, 02:37:39 AM
It's a long-running Forum joke about blue mash tuns being superior. Welcome to the in-crowd. :-)

Besides, your cooler "includes a fish measuring ruler molded into the lid." Surely that offsets the red!

Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: jamminbrew on April 20, 2011, 02:57:52 AM
I went with this cooler
http://www.target.com/Igloo-Family-Cooler-Red-Quart/dp/B002VPSTYQ/ref=sc_qi_detailbutton

Hope this one will work for the time being.

I have the exact same cooler, but it doesn't hold in the heat very well. I have to wrap it in packing blankets to keep temps up, and I still lose 5-10* in a 75-90 minute mash. I will be buying the extreme cooler soon.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: gmac on April 20, 2011, 03:18:45 AM
That cooler will be good. You'd have fewer problems if you mashed in a blue one, but nothing serious.

My first thought on looking at the picture.  That red will suck the efficiency right outta your mash.


Why will it suck the efficiency out of it?
What my real question should be since i really only paid 10 bucks for it and all my other parts and such can be transfered to a different cooler later on and i want to get right into all grain b/c i have had the itch for like a year now will this cooler for the time being lol?

Yeah, we're just kidding.  The cooler you got will work just fine.
I was gonna comment on the colour too but I figured I haven't been doing this long enough to get into the colour debate.  Should we discuss "Improving Efficiency Through Boiling" as well?

I started out homebrewing in college too.  Just don't take 20 years off like I did. 
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 20, 2011, 05:57:46 PM
Ok you talked me into it i bought
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-70-Quart-Xtreme-Cooler-Blue/dp/B000G64I1A
Off of amazon.
I hope this will work for 5 gallon batches, someone said it already will
I couldnt pass up 39.50$ and free shipping lol.

Oh and on another note how do you change the thing that tells you how many times you have brewed bc i am done like 9 and it says i am on the first one and it makes me look dumb lol
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: euge on April 20, 2011, 06:11:56 PM
It'll work with 5 gallon batches, and you'll be glad for the extra space when you do bigger beers or larger volumes.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: a10t2 on April 20, 2011, 06:30:02 PM
Oh and on another note how do you change the thing that tells you how many times you have brewed bc i am done like 9 and it says i am on the first one and it makes me look dumb lol

At 25 posts it switches from "1st Kit" to "Cellarman".

25: Cellarman
100: Assistant Brewer
250: Brewer
500: Brewmaster
1000: Senior Brewmaster
2000: Brewmaster General
2500: I spend way too much time on the AHA forum
3000: Official Poobah of No Life.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 20, 2011, 07:47:24 PM
Oh ok cool thanks for the info.
I also like the choices of avatars we can have Freddie Prince Jr is way too funny to pass up lol
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: weazletoe on April 20, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
That cooler will be good. You'd have fewer problems if you mashed in a blue one, but nothing serious.

My first thought on looking at the picture.  That red will suck the efficiency right outta your mash.



I actually have a red and a blue mash tun. I get no less than 112% efficency every batch.  :D

EDIT : I'm thinkinh if I had the built in fish ruler, I could acheive such efficency that I could make beer with no grain at all.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 20, 2011, 09:11:58 PM
Without a question Chuck Norris could
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: weazletoe on April 20, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
You sir, are awesome!
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: denny on April 20, 2011, 09:16:46 PM
EDIT : I'm thinkinh if I had the built in fish ruler, I could acheive such efficency that I could make beer with no grain at all.

My efficiency is so good these days that not only do full kegs magically appear in my fridge, but I find a new bag of grain in the garage every morning!  ;)
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on April 20, 2011, 09:19:42 PM
Well chuck has two bags in his garage
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: denny on April 20, 2011, 09:40:46 PM
Well chuck has two bags in his garage

and an entire brewpub.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: weazletoe on April 20, 2011, 11:31:44 PM
EDIT : I'm thinkinh if I had the built in fish ruler, I could acheive such efficency that I could make beer with no grain at all.

My efficiency is so good these days that not only do full kegs magically appear in my fridge, but I find a new bag of grain in the garage every morning!  ;)

 You are the batch sparge king.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on May 11, 2011, 04:42:57 AM
So I ended up going with the xtreme cooler and I am going to do my first batch this weekend.
does any know how many degrees above my target temperature the water should be for mashing (i think mashing is the right word) for a 70 quart coleman extreme?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: gmac on May 11, 2011, 12:09:17 PM
You'll probably have some trial and error for a while. I found out that I need to heat the cooler first and then add the grain or my temp would drop. I add about 22 quarts at 185 for 10 mins. That warms the cooler and gets my water to 170 or so. When I add my grain I end up about 156 but I keep my cooler in the garage so its usually fairly cool to start with. Others will have better ideas. It'll probably take you a few times to really dial things in.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: gmac on May 11, 2011, 12:14:44 PM
I should have added I'm using about 9 lbs of grain. If you are going for 1.100, you'll have more grain to heat up. You can always go at a medium water to grain ratio and add hot or cold if needed to get to temp until you see how things go.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: tygo on May 11, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
So I ended up going with the xtreme cooler and I am going to do my first batch this weekend.
does any know how many degrees above my target temperature the water should be for mashing (i think mashing is the right word) for a 70 quart coleman extreme?

If you're asking about how many degrees above your strike temperature you need to go to pre-heat the mash tun it'll be variable, like gmac says, depending on the ambient temperature, water volume, etc.  If it's cold I've found that 14-16 degrees extra isn't too high.  Even in spring/summer weather I'll usually go about 10 degrees over my strike temp.  If it's too hot you can always stir a little to bring it down.  If it ends up being colder than your strike temp then you have to heat it up which is a pain in the butt.

Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: jeffy on May 11, 2011, 02:16:57 PM
There are calculators in cyberspace that can help you dial in the temperature.  I use the one at http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: denny on May 11, 2011, 03:44:24 PM
So I ended up going with the xtreme cooler and I am going to do my first batch this weekend.
does any know how many degrees above my target temperature the water should be for mashing (i think mashing is the right word) for a 70 quart coleman extreme?

For me, approximately 15F over my mash temp works nearly every time.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: bluesman on May 11, 2011, 04:25:18 PM
You can target your strike water based on a given temp the first time and then adjust accordingly on the next batch. I like to keep notes so I can relate back to them on each successive batch. The actual strike temp can also very from season to season as the ambient temps change.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on July 10, 2011, 07:28:57 PM
So I am glad I got talked into the coleman xtreme. I did my first allgrain and it only dropped .5 degress in a hour.

So I have another store bought kit and it's set up to get 5.5 gallons into the fermentor but due to dead space in my kettle I lose 1 gallon. My question is I want 7.5 gallons preboil bot 6.5 like the recipes is calc for. Do I just add the extra gallon to the kettle and do the mash and strike amounts like the recipe says?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: Will's Swill on July 10, 2011, 08:43:46 PM
That will dilute your OG.  Why not just dump the remains in your kettle into your fermenter?  A gallon is a lot to lose on a 5 gallon batch.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on July 10, 2011, 09:07:23 PM
The kit has alot of corn in it so no big grain flavor. The biggest flavor is the hops. I am adding extra corn sugar to make up for the lack of alcohol and maltodextrin so I can keep the  head retention.

I am trying to keep the hop settlement out of it.

should I add the extra water to the sparge or straight to the pot.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: denny on July 10, 2011, 09:11:37 PM
maltodextrin so I can keep the  head retention.

 ???
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: Will's Swill on July 10, 2011, 09:21:10 PM
I presume you're batch sparging?  If so, you could add it to the sparge.  Or you could strain your hops out and not lose any goodness...
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on July 10, 2011, 09:33:05 PM
I meant to say body not head retention. Yeah I currently am batch sparging
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: a10t2 on July 10, 2011, 10:35:23 PM
Do I just add the extra gallon to the kettle and do the mash and strike amounts like the recipe says?

You could, but doing a concentrated boil when you don't have to is just needlessly reducing your efficiency. I'd add it equally to the strike and sparge.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: oscarvan on July 11, 2011, 03:26:43 AM
Read.

edited by mod to remove link

You know you can get HTB online *legally*, right? http://www.howtobrew.com/
How To Brew is the only book you'll ever need, IMO. Everything else you need to know you can find online or through the many forums. Actually, as noted, that book is available online as well.

The third edition is less than $20 on amazon IIRC. Support Mr Palmer. After all he has given to the homebrewing community it would be a real shame to infringe on his copyright by distributing illegal versions of his book.

OK, havn't been on this thread in a while. I was not aware that that was a fraudulent link, and apologize to John for posting it. Myself I paid for the hardcopy 3rd edition, as well as a slew of books from other excellent authors. Not trying to backstab these fine folks in any way shape or form.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: oscarvan on July 11, 2011, 03:30:26 AM
Oh, and my strike temp is only 5º in summer and 10º in winter above target using a 70qt Extreme. The HLT is only a two feet gravity hose away from the MT. I suggest doing some water only experimenting.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on July 20, 2011, 08:26:06 PM
ok my question is about mash temps.
from my understanding if you mash at 145 degrees you get more fermentable sugar making it dryer.
and at 160 you get nonfermentable sugars making it thicker

So my recipe that I bought ask for a mash temp at 152, I am guessing they wanted that so get a mix of sugars?

This is all very complex
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: a10t2 on July 20, 2011, 08:43:46 PM
from my understanding if you mash at 145 degrees you get more fermentable sugar making it dryer.
and at 160 you get nonfermentable sugars making it thicker
So my recipe that I bought ask for a mash temp at 152, I am guessing they wanted that so get a mix of sugars?
This is all very complex

Not so very complex really. You've got it exactly right. Although 145°F is pretty low for a single infusion mash - I wouldn't go below about 149°F or you may have problems with the mash fully converting.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on July 20, 2011, 08:46:37 PM
what's the lowest I can go to make the dryest I can?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on July 20, 2011, 08:51:12 PM
My target temp was 152 what would happen if it was 150 or 153 or 154 or 155...etc.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: a10t2 on July 20, 2011, 10:44:36 PM
When mashing for high fermentability, I'll typically hold 149°F for 90 min, instead of my usual 60 min mash. If I do that and have little or no crystal malt in the grist, I'll get 80-85% ADF using ale yeasts and 85-90% with a lager yeast.

I don't worry about variations of less than 1°F.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on July 21, 2011, 07:12:55 PM
...oh man you made it even harder lol. What does amount of time do to the mash. If I were to mash at 90 min instead of 60 what would that do? When is 60 better and when is 90 better?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: morticaixavier on July 21, 2011, 07:15:44 PM
...oh man you made it even harder lol. What does amount of time do to the mash. If I were to mash at 90 min instead of 60 what would that do? When is 60 better and when is 90 better?

Let's see if I can get this right (I might have these backwards)

Beta amylase works best at lower temps and makes for more fermentable wort but it is slower.
Alpha amylase works best at a higher temp, makes for less fermentable wort but is is faster.

If you look in your copy (you must have one) of NCJOHB (new complete joy of homebrewing) or any other homebrewing book of that type they will go into more (or at least more creative) detail on the subject with actuall temp ranges etc.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on September 07, 2011, 09:31:32 PM
So i did my third allgrain yesterday. It was a Raspberry Wheat pretty cool. I am getting the raspberry by adding 5 pounds of frozen raspberry in the secondary. My brewhouse efficiency was 78% is that good?

I have a new brew kettle and i lose around 1.25 gallons of liquid to dead space. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to avoid this. I upped my recipe grain bill to get a 1.5 gallon more wort in the end but its kind of annoying to sit and do the math and try to convert recipes i get from people.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: Hokerer on September 08, 2011, 12:09:05 AM
1.25 gallons is a crap-ton to leave behind in the brew kettle.  How are you draining it?  If it's just a matter of the drain hole being too high up on the side of the kettle, maybe you could look into adding pickup tube.  Basically, a pipe elbow on the inside of the drain that points to the bottom of the kettle.  Because of the siphon effect, you end up draining all liquid down to the level of the bottom of the elbow.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on September 08, 2011, 02:51:54 AM
I have 15.5 gallon boil kettle with weldless valve and a torpido tube that sticks straight in as close to the bottom as I can
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on September 08, 2011, 05:23:21 AM
I use the torpedo tube bc I add the hops straight to the kettle and send the hot wort through a counterflow chiller I made an if I don't strain first it may clog my wort chiller.

I am lost on ideas not to lose like 1.5 gallons of wort.

Oh and is 78% decent bedeviled efficiency for mashing?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: morticaixavier on September 08, 2011, 06:08:40 AM
78 is pretty good. better than I usually get for sure. I think the pickup tube previously mentioned is really the only way you are going to prevent that loss. or fill the bottom of your kettle with something to displace the wort.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: Hokerer on September 08, 2011, 03:01:51 PM
Maybe try tilting the kettle, once it's mostly drained, almost all the way over onto it's side?
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: morticaixavier on September 08, 2011, 03:14:35 PM
Maybe try tilting the kettle, once it's mostly drained, almost all the way over onto it's side?

That would also work, and with the torpedo tube it should prevent too much hot break from getting through as well, particularly if you use whole leaf hops.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: Caddywhompusbeer on September 30, 2011, 01:20:40 PM
I use the torpedo tube bc I add the hops straight to the kettle and send the hot wort through a counterflow chiller I made an if I don't strain first it may clog my wort chiller.

I am lost on ideas not to lose like 1.5 gallons of wort.

Oh and is 78% decent bedeviled efficiency for mashing?

Do you have a hose on the end of your valve to drain into your carboy? You won't get the siphon effect without one. My kettle leaves .75 gal in the bottom without a hose, but with its only .125 gal.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: euge on September 30, 2011, 05:43:00 PM
I use the torpedo tube bc I add the hops straight to the kettle and send the hot wort through a counterflow chiller I made an if I don't strain first it may clog my wort chiller.

I am lost on ideas not to lose like 1.5 gallons of wort.


Hop taco. Not mine but maxiboy's.

(http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/images/IMG_1553.jpg)
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: maxieboy on September 30, 2011, 09:51:40 PM
Not mine but a representative pic I posted of a "hop taco".
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: euge on October 01, 2011, 03:41:49 AM
Oops. But a fine representation all the same!
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: ckpash88 on October 01, 2011, 08:22:38 AM
I think I really only lose about a gallon which is fine. The gallon that is left behind has all the left over hops and other crud that don't want to mess with. I think the biggest problem is that I am brewing 5 gallon batches in 15 gallon pot the guy at the LBHS talked me into a bigger pot I should have gone with the 10 gallon. You live an you learn. I can just scale and create 6 gallon recipes like I have been.
Title: Re: Getting Started
Post by: Mark G on October 01, 2011, 01:22:22 PM
One day you'll appreciate the 15 gallon pot, I promise you that. You'll probably even wonder why you didn't get a 20 gallon pot.