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Title: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: pyrite on April 26, 2011, 06:05:08 AM
Now I understand why craft brewers ask for deposits when loaning out kegged beer.  Equipment such as these growlers below is one of the many ways us home brewers distribute our beer to friends and family.  When I loan out a drill motor I expect to get it back, the same goes for these growlers.  I don't know how many growler filled beers I've passes out to friends and family, only to have them tell me they threw the growler away.

My large inventory of growlers is suffering from filling them for family and friends.  I don't know how to handle this.  Maybe a deposit is needed? Maybe I shouldn't lend them out.  Any advice?

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Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: Pinski on April 26, 2011, 06:13:48 AM
Funny timing. I was just grabbing a CD to loan a friend at work.  Whenever I loan a book or CD I either write on or place a sticky note label that reads, "I live at Pinski's house" as a friendly reminder of the loan and expected return. Keep sharing.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: punatic on April 26, 2011, 06:38:29 AM
When I share my beverages with friends I remind them that I make beer, mead, etc, but I do not make bottles.  If they want to receive more beer, mead, etc. they need to bring the bottles back.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: phillamb168 on April 26, 2011, 06:44:55 AM
I think it's just an educational thing - before you give someone a growler tell them how much it costs and that it needs to be returned after they're done. For people who only ever drink bottled beer from the shop I think it's a normal reaction - if you've never had to pay for your own bottles you don't know not to throw them out.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: tschmidlin on April 26, 2011, 07:09:45 AM
Same as punatic, I tell them that if they ever want more they're going to have to return it.  I've also been known to tape reminders to stuff.  It's good to share, don't let it stop you.  Just explain the etiquette.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: hopfenundmalz on April 26, 2011, 12:40:48 PM
I make it clear that I make beer not bottles, and that I hate delabeling and cleaning.  I want them back clean, not with some bad science experiment going on at the bottom.

If these rules are not followed, I make a mental note - "No beer for you!".
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: maxieboy on April 26, 2011, 02:19:02 PM
No return, no refill. Return 'em rinsed because your next beer may be filled on top of that "bad science experiment".  ;D
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: weazletoe on April 26, 2011, 05:38:51 PM
I make it clear that I make beer not bottles, and that I hate delabeling and cleaning.  I want them back clean, not with some bad science experiment going on at the bottom.

If these rules are not followed, I make a mental note - "No beer for you!".


+1 When I pass out beer, instead of asking for the bottle back, I explain the proper bottle cleanig procedure. I tell them, "that way next time I fill it for you, if will make cleaning the bottle a lot easier for me." I have never had so much as a bottle un-returned.
  In fact, one of my good friends in Ohio drank a lot of craft beer with crown caps. He rinsed them all for me, and gave them to me. To the point I had to ask him to stop, as I was overwhemled with bottles. When I moved to Idaho, I tossed over 200.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: euge on April 26, 2011, 06:50:58 PM
I don't loan out my growlers. But, when I give beer to my friends it's in 12oz brown bottles and tell them don't bother to return them. Just recycle instead.

It's too easy to set oneself up for disappointment.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: punatic on April 26, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
  In fact, one of my good friends in Ohio drank a lot of craft beer with crown caps. He rinsed them all for me, and gave them to me. To the point I had to ask him to stop, as I was overwhemled with bottles. When I moved to Idaho, I tossed over 200.

Here in Hawaii those puppies are worth 5₵ apiece  (dirty or clean).
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: dak0415 on April 26, 2011, 07:30:36 PM
No return, no refill. Return 'em rinsed because your next beer may be filled on top of that "bad science experiment".  ;D
That's my philosophy!
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: hopfenundmalz on April 27, 2011, 01:36:37 AM
I don't loan out my growlers. But, when I give beer to my friends it's in 12oz brown bottles and tell them don't bother to return them. Just recycle instead.

It's too easy to set oneself up for disappointment.

Here in Michigan, those 12 oz. bottles are $0.10 a pop.  It adds up.  
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: euge on April 27, 2011, 01:53:40 AM
I have no idea why they aren't refundable here in Texas. Bottles should be.

Which brings to mind memories of 6th street. Hit the alleys Sunday morning and one sees dumpsters filled to the top with beer bottles. Not a trash-bottle mix. All beer bottles right to the top. What a waste.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: hopfenundmalz on April 27, 2011, 01:59:08 AM
I have no idea why they aren't refundable here in Texas. Bottles should be.

Which brings to mind memories of 6th street. Hit the alleys Sunday morning and one sees dumpsters filled to the top with beer bottles. Not a trash-bottle mix. All beer bottles right to the top. What a waste.

Austin, right?  That is what one would expect from walking down that street early on a Saturday.   

Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: euge on April 27, 2011, 02:27:24 AM

Austin, right?  That is what one would expect from walking down that street early on a Saturday.   

Yep. And outside the fraternities in West Campus after kegs were banned? Same thing. Dumpsters full of beer cans or bottles. I didn't know what a growler was until I moved to San Antonio. :-\
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: gsandel on April 27, 2011, 04:51:37 AM
With bottles, I used to say "returned clean" (after proper instruction on cleaning of course) or no more beer for you.....

now, I tell them to bring their own growler over for a fill.....and if they don't have one, I suggest they get one next time we are out at a local establishment....I haven't yet encountered one, but i won't fill, nor clean a dirty growler, either.
seems to work.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: weazletoe on April 27, 2011, 05:10:17 AM
One more thig I have done......2 litre pop bottles. They work just as well, and who cares if you get it back.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: euge on April 27, 2011, 05:18:42 AM
One more thig I have done......2 litre pop bottles. They work just as well, and who cares if you get it back.

I was thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: punatic on April 27, 2011, 05:41:38 AM
One more thig I have done......2 litre pop bottles. They work just as well, and who cares if you get it back.

I was thinking the same thing.

I've been using 2L soda bottles with Carbonators for over 15 years.  They work very well and have never failed to pass a "cooler check,"

However, they do not get loaned out.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: euge on April 27, 2011, 06:10:53 AM
I won't be loaning out any of my current PET bottles until a new carbonator cap comes out. :( F'ing progress...
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: punatic on April 27, 2011, 06:35:47 AM
I won't be loaning out any of my current PET bottles until a new carbonator cap comes out. :( F'ing progress...

I saw you mention that in another thread.  I don't know for sure, but I think the new bottles you are talking about are meant to be low-waste non-carbonated water bottles.  I think soda bottles will remain more robust with their 200 psi rating.  Have you seen carbonated beverages in these new PET bottles?
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: phillamb168 on April 27, 2011, 07:05:45 AM
One more thig I have done......2 litre pop bottles. They work just as well, and who cares if you get it back.

I was thinking the same thing.

I've been using 2L soda bottles with Carbonators for over 15 years.  They work very well and have never failed to pass a "cooler check,"

However, they do not get loaned out.

If I don't have a carbonator, can I just squirt some CO2 in there first and then fill with carbonated beer?
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: tumarkin on April 27, 2011, 10:41:57 AM

If I don't have a carbonator, can I just squirt some CO2 in there first and then fill with carbonated beer?

sure, or do a little googling and find online instructions for making your own carbonator caps. easy to make, very cheap.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: jeffy on April 27, 2011, 11:34:48 AM
I won't be loaning out any of my current PET bottles until a new carbonator cap comes out. :( F'ing progress...

I saw you mention that in another thread.  I don't know for sure, but I think the new bottles you are talking about are meant to be low-waste non-carbonated water bottles.  I think soda bottles will remain more robust with their 200 psi rating.  Have you seen carbonated beverages in these new PET bottles?

I think Carl's on to something here.  Only some plastic bottles have changed the cap thread size.  The pressurized bottles seem to be the same as the old size that the carbonators work on.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: euge on April 27, 2011, 05:45:03 PM
I'm also not 100% on this because I only drink soda rarely. What I have seen in my area, all the 20oz and 1liter bottles have the new caps. Where it starts to get fuzzy is with the 2liters. The three liters don't have them yet, but they have that wide-mouth cap- which may just be a bigger version of the new cap.

My thinking is that this has been rolled out here before the rest of the Nation. Seems like we are a product test market. And yes, all the major water brands like Dasani and Aquafina appear to have the new cap.

I might be up at the store later today. Will recheck the soda aisle- yes there is an entire aisle devoted to sugar water. :(
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: Will's Swill on April 28, 2011, 01:49:02 AM


If I don't have a carbonator, can I just squirt some CO2 in there first and then fill with carbonated beer?

I have a carbonator cap and I've never used it.  I just fill straight with my homegrown bottle filler and then cap.  This has always worked for me.  However, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I prefer six-packs of 20 oz. soda bottles to the bigger ones.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: fritzeye on April 28, 2011, 07:43:23 PM
One more thig I have done......2 litre pop bottles. They work just as well, and who cares if you get it back.

yep yep, I ise a carbonator cap and then replace with a regular cap before I leave. Not I only do I not have to worry about wether I get it back or not, but also do not have to worry about breaking it on the way.
yep yep.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: dnva75 on June 18, 2011, 06:21:10 PM
If people want to take my Home Brew to their home I ask them to bring a growler.  If they don't, no beer leaves the premises unless in their bellies.  People I know who really like beer have no issue with this.  The rookies that do don't appreciate it enough for me to worry about it.
Title: Re: collateral for home brew filled growlers
Post by: 1vertical on June 19, 2011, 04:36:24 AM
The neighbor seemed to think that eggs for full growlers may be a viable idea.
If this happens, I shall insist that the bottle be cleaned out and ready for
refilling upon acquisition of a dozen cackle berries...  :P