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Title: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 05, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
Going to brew my first cream ale this weekend.  Would like a critique of my planned recipe.

6.5 lb us 2-row
1lb us 6-row
1.5 lb flaked maize
1.5 lb minute rice
4 oz biscuit
4 oz honey
1oz Tettnang @ 60 min
1 pack US-05 yeast

90 min mash at 152
90 min boil
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: euge on May 05, 2011, 11:30:01 PM
Double the maize and ditch the rice. Is that honey malt or honey?
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 05, 2011, 11:43:24 PM
Its Honey Malt.  I only have 2 lbs of flaked maize in stock right now and am trying to avoid going back to the LHBS, so I'll bump it up to 2 lbs and ditch the rice.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: Malticulous on May 06, 2011, 08:14:30 PM
The one I have ready now is 33.3% German pils, 33.3% 6-row and 33.4% white rice cereal mashed. 16 IBU from a Mt. Hood FWH I doubt anyone could tell it's not corn.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: gail3logan on May 11, 2011, 10:47:27 AM
The recipe seems to be very good but is there any alternative for honey because I hate it?
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: gordonstrong on May 11, 2011, 12:21:41 PM
The recipe seems to be very good but is there any alternative for honey because I hate it?

Table sugar
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 11, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
Its honey malt not honey that i'm using in my recipe.  I'm not a big fan of using honey in my beers.  Brewing this beer right now, ended up using 2 lbs flaked maize and a half pound of rice, and will be using perle hops instead of tettnang, but adjusted the amount to keep the ibus around 17.  Its my first cream ale, so hopefully it turns out good.  I'll will post the results.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: gordonstrong on May 11, 2011, 09:53:10 PM
Sugar is still traditional.  Sub for honey malt?  Maybe Caravienne?
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 12, 2011, 10:06:37 PM
Overshot my expected original gravity. Had 84.7% efficency which was higher than what I was expecting, normally my system gets between 75% to 80%.  Ended up with 5.75 gallons at 1.052 and 19 ibus.  Currently bubbling away at 60 F. 
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: gordonstrong on May 12, 2011, 10:08:30 PM
That's still fine. Should be good.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 12, 2011, 10:14:35 PM
Gordon, do you think 60 F is a good temp for this style using US-05?  I've read about people using it at even lower temps to get even more of a cleaner fermentation. But from the spec's I've seen on the yeast 60 F was about the min temp.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: gordonstrong on May 13, 2011, 03:12:11 AM
Never used it, sorry.  If it's going fine at 60, just let it finish.  Cold condition it later.  That will help smooth it out as well.  I'm usually more concerned about a healthy, vigorous fermentation than obsessing about a couple degrees difference in fermentation temperature.  That will give you a clean beer just about all the time unless you're intentionally trying to drive it way above the recommended range.

Let us know where it finishes and how it tastes after fermentation is done and the beer has dropped bright.  That's when I'd be looking to rack it and lager it.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: Malticulous on May 13, 2011, 03:31:31 AM
Starting US-05 at 55-60F is fine, it will chug along. letting it raise the temp a degree (or two) a day will help it finish faster and it will still be every bit as clean. Do that and get the carbonation right it will be as crisp and clean as any lager-minus the sulfur.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: weazletoe on May 16, 2011, 10:40:49 PM
I'm the self proclaimed king of US-05 and use it in most all my beers. I've used it in a wheat in the low 50's. Took an extra day or two, but turned out wonderful. I really love the crap outta 05!!  ;D
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 20, 2011, 11:38:36 PM
Racked today (Day 9). Gravity down to 1.016.  Is still sweet and will need 2 or 3  more weeks in secondary.  Was fruitier than what I was expecting, still alot of yeast in suspension doing its thing. I defiantly like the taste of it, will make a great summer beer, but am hoping the fruit flavors mellow out a bit.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: Malticulous on May 21, 2011, 01:18:43 AM
1.016 is high. What did you mash it?
OK. re-read, 152F. I'd expect closer to 1.010.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 21, 2011, 01:36:26 AM
Yeah, I thought it was pretty much done, didn't see any airlock activity, but once I racked it I took off again, so i racked it a bit early.  I'm hoping for it to get down to 1.012 but 1.010 would be even better.  I'm guessing the low ferm temp is just making it finish slow.  I chilled the sample and tasted it again and the fruit flavors have gone down quite a bit, so I'm thinking all of the yeast that was in suspension was giving me some of those flavors.  I let my dad try it without knowing what it was and the first words out of his mouth was wow this tastes like the best miller light I've ever had, so I guess that is a good thing for this style.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 23, 2011, 11:53:09 PM
Checked the gravity the past two days and its now holding steady at 1.014.  Not quite where I wanted it but guess it will have to do.
Next time I'll mash at 148 instead of 152.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: gordonstrong on May 24, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
Checked the gravity the past two days and its now holding steady at 1.014.  Not quite where I wanted it but guess it will have to do.
Next time I'll mash at 148 instead of 152.

Or you could add some sugar.
Title: Re: Cream Ale recipe
Post by: dtblank on May 24, 2011, 09:02:58 PM
Yeah Gordon, I should have just listened to you early in this post and used sugar.  Thinking the yeast might have been a bit of the problem too.  The expiration date was for april of this year, so I was a month past that before using.  Next time I will use the same recipe might take rice out all together and add the sugar.