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Title: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 10, 2011, 06:36:22 PM
 My brother-in-law recently built a very nice smoker, from an old propane tank. About 10' long. He put it on a trailer, so it's easily portable. Could use a coat of paint, but that won't make it work any better.
  Last weekend, he smoked a whole pig for a graduation. The party was at 6 p.m. Saturday. We were to eat shortly after. He put the pig on a 3 p.m. Friday, at 275*!! You can imagine what happened. It was awful. Tough, dry, very little smoke flavor, just charcoal. Worst part is, the poor guy thought it was great. Oh, and, he also put six chickens on. At 10 a.m. Saturday. Right over the fire! by 6, they looked like six little bowling balls. I don't think there was any salvagable meat on them. What bbq abortion.
  The lesson is, it's not the equiptment you have, it's know how to use what ever you have. I far from claim to be the greatest at grilling / smoking, but I could have at least made it ediable.
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: bluesman on May 10, 2011, 06:42:04 PM
That's too bad.You're right in that it's not about the equipment you have but it's how you use it and your process that's more important. I've seen guys BBQ on those cheap little habatchi grills you can get at the Dollarstore that tasted like competition BBQ and visa-versa as you have witnessed.

It's not how big your tool is... but it's how you use it. ;)
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: nicneufeld on May 10, 2011, 06:50:25 PM
Whole hog would be tricky...I've never done it, but it combines, naturally, a ton of different cuts that each have different ideal cooking methods and temps. 

The subject line made me think back to that epic rib pic you posted on the other forum Weaz!  I've made some bad ribs...no, MANY bad slabs of ribs...but your pic was awesome.  Those ribs looked like they were at at ground zero of the trinity testing site.
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: hamiltont on May 10, 2011, 06:54:29 PM
  The lesson is, it's not the equipment you have, it's know how to use what ever you have.

Practice, Practice, Practice.  Gota feel a little sorry for your BIL.  I'm sure he meant well.  Roasting a whole hog is a challenge for professionals, and they still mess it up sometimes...  Cheers!!!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: euge on May 10, 2011, 07:06:28 PM
  The lesson is, it's not the equipment you have, it's know how to use what ever you have.

Practice, Practice, Practice.  Gota feel a little sorry for your BIL.  I'm sure he meant well.  Roasting a whole hog is a challenge for professionals, and they still mess it up sometimes...  Cheers!!!

That's too bad about the hog man. Doing it at 165-200 would have been better. Maybe introducing him to the BBQ Brethren might be all your BIL needs weaze. ;)

I'm fortunate that my experience goes back 40 years with BBQ. Picked up smoking techniques fairly easily in my weber kettle. Graduated to inadequate rusted out barrel grill and still made decent Q. But then using the BGE really was like picking up a Stradivarius. Regardless, I've managed to F some meat up even in that due to unforeseen complications.

However, I'm beginning to look again at other equipment options...
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 10, 2011, 07:46:55 PM
The subject line made me think back to that epic rib pic you posted on the other forum Weaz!  I've made some bad ribs...no, MANY bad slabs of ribs...but your pic was awesome.  Those ribs looked like they were at at ground zero of the trinity testing site.

  That was pretty epic. I just had to repost, for a laugh. And I'll never forget the conversation I had with my buddy about them when we pulled them off.
   
Me : " I'm really upset. That was my dinner"
Buddy " I'm a black dude from Mississppi. How do you think I feel?!"

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd235/Weazletoe/S5001445.jpg)
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: hamiltont on May 10, 2011, 07:51:23 PM
The subject line made me think back to that epic rib pic you posted on the other forum Weaz!  I've made some bad ribs...no, MANY bad slabs of ribs...but your pic was awesome.  Those ribs looked like they were at at ground zero of the trinity testing site.

  That was pretty epic. I just had to repost, for a laugh. And I'll never forget the conversation I had with my buddy about them when we pulled them off.
   
Me : " I'm really upset. That was my dinner"
Buddy " I'm a black dude from Mississppi. How do you think I feel?!"

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd235/Weazletoe/S5001445.jpg)

Maybe, possibly, could of used them for baked beans? Parts maybe??  Happy to see I'm not the only one who has cooked dem bones well done...  ;)  Cheers!!!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 10, 2011, 08:10:52 PM
Only thing could have been done with these, was to use them as charcoal to do my next rack on.
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: EHall on May 10, 2011, 08:12:12 PM
SACRE BLEU!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: euge on May 10, 2011, 08:44:55 PM
Those beef ribs look pretty bad but surely something could have been done? Maybe chopped beef.

So I guess it was KFC for dinner that night...
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 10, 2011, 09:00:33 PM
I'm telling you, these ribs were burnt to charcoal all the way through. There was NOTHING that could have been done. I mean NOTHING!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: gordonstrong on May 10, 2011, 09:01:58 PM
Call Al Gore.  I think you need to buy some carbon offsets.
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: tschmidlin on May 10, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
I'm telling you, these ribs were burnt to charcoal all the way through. There was NOTHING that could have been done. I mean NOTHING!
What the hell weaze?  How could they ever get that bad, did you ignore them for 7 hours?
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 10, 2011, 09:24:28 PM
  Fired up the bullet smoker (my first time using) Put in about 15 bricks of charcoal. My temp was only 200* or so. I added 5 more bircks. Temp was still low, so I added 5 bricks. Repeat this process, then walk away for an hour. Your smoker tends to hit 250* real fast! Try about 450-500* It was ugly...... :-[
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: tschmidlin on May 10, 2011, 09:40:12 PM
It's only funny because it happened to someone else ;)
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 10, 2011, 09:45:38 PM
I dunno, I laughed my butt, and I know the guy it happend to pretty well.  ;D
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: nicneufeld on May 11, 2011, 12:38:28 AM
I love how some of the bones weren't just blackened, but almost have this grey-whitish look like they've almost been bleached by too much fire.  Weaz, we've all screwed up food on the grill, myself too many times to count, but you at least have the distinction of having burnt ribs to a level of comedy and then having the good sense to upload a picture of it!   ;D

I'm still not sure how a charcoal bullet smoker could have gotten away from you like that...they can have temperature spikes but dang that thing must have been a kiln for a while!  I do most of my ribs on a plain old Weber kettle now, though I do have a Weber Smokey Mountain bullet.  The kettle is just the tool I have the most familiarity with, it feels like a trusty tool to me by now and I'm rarely surprised by it, which is a good thing!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: maxieboy on May 11, 2011, 12:56:22 AM
The subject line made me think back to that epic rib pic you posted on the other forum Weaz!  I've made some bad ribs...no, MANY bad slabs of ribs...but your pic was awesome.  Those ribs looked like they were at at ground zero of the trinity testing site.

  That was pretty epic. I just had to repost, for a laugh. And I'll never forget the conversation I had with my buddy about them when we pulled them off.
   
Me : " I'm really upset. That was my dinner"
Buddy " I'm a black dude from Mississppi. How do you think I feel?!"

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd235/Weazletoe/S5001445.jpg)

I don't care who you are, that's funny right thar!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: bluesman on May 11, 2011, 01:34:24 AM
Epic ribs!

I remember that pic from the "other" forum. What comes after burned? Incinerated... :D
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: punatic on May 11, 2011, 01:44:56 AM
  Fired up the bullet smoker (my first time using) Put in about 15 bricks of charcoal. My temp was only 200* or so. I added 5 more bircks. Temp was still low, so I added 5 bricks. Repeat this process, then walk away for an hour. Your smoker tends to hit 250* real fast! Try about 450-500* It was ugly...... :-[

I woulda guessed someone painted them with sauce at the beginning...  and then walked away for 7 hours.  ;D

Some friends of mine and I have been experimenting with cooking on newly emplaced lava.  It is pretty challenging.  We've burned up a lot of food that way, but we're getting the hang of it.  (cooking with 1500F)
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: tygo on May 11, 2011, 01:52:21 AM
Some friends of mine and I have been experimenting with cooking on newly emplaced lava.  It is pretty challenging.  We've burned up a lot of food that way, but we're getting the hang of it.  (cooking with 1500F)

I imagine we'll see some pics of that soon?
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: punatic on May 11, 2011, 01:58:29 AM
I gotta set up a photo hosting account I can hot link to somewhere.

You can see some of my lava photos here:

Lava's a Many Splendored Thing (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.102632739798181.4160.100001543661630)
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 11, 2011, 03:59:01 AM
Sad thing is, I bet he'll never burn a rack of ribs on lava, as bad as I did on a bullet. Looking at that pic, and a few of the comments made, I am seriously LMFAO! It sucks being stupid sometimes, but damn is it a fun ride!!  ;D
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: narvin on May 11, 2011, 04:02:07 AM
Damn.  I looked at this on my phone earlier and they didn't look all that bad.  Now on a real screen I feel like I'm checking out a corpse.

How do you like your ribs?  Cremated!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: euge on May 11, 2011, 05:09:05 AM
I gotta set up a photo hosting account I can hot link to somewhere.


Picasa on google. It's free and works fantabulously.
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: phillamb168 on May 11, 2011, 06:36:48 AM
I dunno, I laughed my butt, and I know the guy it happend to pretty well.  ;D

I don't think I've ever laughed that hard on the train before. People were staring.
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: bluefoxicy on May 15, 2011, 04:36:53 PM
Smoking and grilling is an area I have little expertise in.  I would avoid attempting to smoke a pig; leave that to the experts.

I have a friend that is a masterchef in his own kitchen, despite no formal training.  I might buy him a cast iron grill in exchange for grilling instruction, since he's dirt poor.  He grills whole turkeys for thanksgiving and they come out good.  Hell, he grills pizza?!

http://www.amazon.com/Lodge-L410-Pre-Seasoned-Sportsmans-Charcoal/dp/B00022OK2A/

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41gzitUS3FL.jpg)

I have no clue wtf these are but I want some.

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/55/7d/095a81b0c8a0de5ed1a6a110.L.jpg)

Burgers and baked beans, mmm.

I would love to be as proficient grilling as I am with sushi.
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: bluesman on May 15, 2011, 06:49:38 PM
Smoking and grilling is an area I have little expertise in.  I would avoid attempting to smoke a pig; leave that to the experts.

I have a friend that is a masterchef in his own kitchen, despite no formal training.  I might buy him a cast iron grill in exchange for grilling instruction, since he's dirt poor.  He grills whole turkeys for thanksgiving and they come out good.  Hell, he grills pizza?!

http://www.amazon.com/Lodge-L410-Pre-Seasoned-Sportsmans-Charcoal/dp/B00022OK2A/

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41gzitUS3FL.jpg)

I have no clue wtf these are but I want some.

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/55/7d/095a81b0c8a0de5ed1a6a110.L.jpg)

Burgers and baked beans, mmm.

I would love to be as proficient grilling as I am with sushi.

Nice pics!

Start your BBQ education here.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/index.php

http://www.primalgrill.org/index.asp
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: punatic on May 15, 2011, 08:01:24 PM
One summer I decide I was going to learn how to barbeque, so I cooked on my grill every night for several months..  I ate a lot of raw food, burnt food, burned on the outside - raw on the inside food.  But, by the end of the summer I had gotten pretty good at it.  So much so that I cooked a turkey for ten on the grill forThanksgiving that year.

I was young and single back then so I was the only one who had to eat the boo boos.

There was no interweb or FoodTV back then so I had no help on that front.  I did have a good time getting it all figured out though.
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: hamiltont on May 15, 2011, 08:07:06 PM
One summer I decide I was going to learn how to barbeque, so I cooked on my grill every night for several months..  I ate a lot of raw food, burnt food, burned on the outside - raw on the inside food.  But, by the end of the summer I had gotten pretty good at it.  So much so that I cooked a turkey for ten on the grill forThanksgiving that year.

I was young and single back then so I was the only one who had to eat the boo boos.

There was no interweb or FoodTV back then so I had no help on that front.  I did have a good time getting it all figured out though.

And that truly is how we learn... Even with the "Interwebs" & "FoodTV" it still takes hands-on experience to do this Cookin' & Brewin' thing we do. Cheers!!!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 16, 2011, 01:42:06 AM
Dang BFI, that is some pretty good looking grub!
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: punatic on May 16, 2011, 01:53:32 AM

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41gzitUS3FL.jpg)

I have no clue wtf these are but I want some.


Lamb chops



(http://humordistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mallylambchop.jpg)
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 16, 2011, 04:13:59 AM
Does anyone else here get turned on by Lambchops voice? Ummmm.....Yeah......me either.......  :-\
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: punatic on May 16, 2011, 05:15:53 AM
Does anyone else here get turned on by Lambchops voice? Ummmm.....Yeah......me either.......  :-\

Yeah, you're right Weaze, but you gotta admit, Shari Lewis' voice was sexy as hell!   ;D
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: weazletoe on May 16, 2011, 06:30:24 PM
 Did we just bridge the gap from BBQ, to Sherry Lewis' voice being a turn on? I've seen some derails on this board, and the others before, but this reallly has to be some kiind of record!  ;D
Title: Re: BBQ disaster
Post by: punatic on May 16, 2011, 07:07:17 PM

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41gzitUS3FL.jpg)

I have no clue wtf these are but I want some.


Lamb chops

Sorry Weaze - I take it back  (http://www.myemoticons.com/images/emotions/embarrassed/blushy.gif)