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Title: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 10, 2011, 10:47:38 PM
 Been a lot of talk of fast beer lately. Well, darn it, I'm doing it! Got a bbq I'm planning next weekend, and my 10 gallons of wheat is about gone. It's gone over real well with my friends here. Need to get something else on tap for the party. So, I'm doing my house IPA. I've done it in 8 days before. This time, I plan to brew on Saturday, and keg 5 gallons of it Friday night, and cold crash it. Saturday morning, I will force carb it, and be drinking by 6 p.m. that day. I'll keg the other 5 gallons after it's had a full 14 days. Call me crazy, but i'm doing it!  8)
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: Malticulous on May 10, 2011, 11:11:16 PM
Good luck! No dry hop?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 11, 2011, 03:47:47 AM
What, for like three hours on Saturday afternoon?  ;D
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: hooter on May 11, 2011, 03:53:25 AM
Gutsy move.  Is it a big beer?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: cheba420 on May 11, 2011, 04:45:38 AM
Post a follow up. You got me on the edge of my seat!
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: Titanium Brewing on May 11, 2011, 04:54:29 AM
I'm calling you crazy.  ;)
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: phillamb168 on May 11, 2011, 07:01:03 AM
Been a lot of talk of fast beer lately. Well, darn it, I'm doing it! Got a bbq I'm planning next weekend, and my 10 gallons of wheat is about gone. It's gone over real well with my friends here. Need to get something else on tap for the party. So, I'm doing my house IPA. I've done it in 8 days before. This time, I plan to brew on Saturday, and keg 5 gallons of it Friday night, and cold crash it. Saturday morning, I will force carb it, and be drinking by 6 p.m. that day. I'll keg the other 5 gallons after it's had a full 14 days. Call me crazy, but i'm doing it!  8)

Weaz, what's the 8-day recipe? I just got notice that there's a block party here in two weeks and I'd love to have an IPA ready in addition to the ESB I'm doing.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: timberati on May 11, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
Good luck. BTW,ya gotta have a follow-up post on its success.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: tomsawyer on May 11, 2011, 01:56:36 PM
I'm calling you crazy.

+1

What OG are you looking for?  Seems like a lot of the quick turnaround brews are in the sub-1.040 range.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: homebrewgamecock on May 11, 2011, 02:18:24 PM
IMO, as long as you have a good yeast starter and good fermentable wort, 8 days will work.  Instead of dry hopping, a few times I have chilled the wort down to 180-170 and added some aroma hops.  I let them sit for about 20 minutes at that temp and then continue to chill the wort. 

I did this a few times back in CA when I brewed with Beverage Bob that see on the forums.  Not quite the same as dry hopping, but a viable substitute IMO.  I would say most of my ales are done fermenting in 3-5 days anyway.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: bluesman on May 11, 2011, 06:48:28 PM
Stranger things have happened.

Try keeping the gravity on the lower side of the IPA range to allow for a faster ferment.  ;)
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: JKL on May 11, 2011, 07:17:27 PM
IMO, as long as you have a good yeast starter and good fermentable wort, 8 days will work. 

As I mentioned in the "Fastest Beer" thread, I pulled off my first AG brew years ago in 9 days.  Granted, it was fermented @ higher temps (70F...ish) in a water bath w/ a fan & t-shirt but it was without a starter and I didn't know about crash cooling either.  If I'd done those things, I bet I could have gone a lot shorter.

-J.K.L.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: ccarlson on May 11, 2011, 07:25:00 PM
I think you can have an IPA ready in 6 days, but I'll bet if you let it age for a couple of weeks, it'll be a whole lot better.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: chumley on May 11, 2011, 07:31:25 PM
I brewed a 1.070 IPA that I dumped on a yeast cake of WY1968, and in seven days after brewing it was kegged and tasting fantastic.

Yep, it can be done.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: JKL on May 11, 2011, 07:38:31 PM
I think you can have an IPA ready in 6 days, but I'll bet if you let it age for a couple of weeks, it'll be a whole lot better.

+1

I sampled a 3 week old 8% Brown Ale last night and It sure tasted good as well.  I can't wait to taste it in a couple of months.

-J.K.L.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 12, 2011, 03:27:35 AM
I'd have to go get my brewery computer right now for all the details on the recipe, but it's something like 11# 2 row, and maybe 2# of 40*, Some Mags at 60 min, and cascade at 45,30,15, and FO. I do not recall the gravity of the top of my head. In the low 1050 area maybe? :-\
  Will definatly do a follow up. It's pretty much my house IPA recipe. I know it taste better after a couple weeks, but it will be good. I think I stand a good fighting chance.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: tomsawyer on May 12, 2011, 09:20:41 PM
Did you get'er brewed up Weaz?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 13, 2011, 12:29:55 AM
Doing it Saturday.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: gmac on May 13, 2011, 01:06:33 AM
Pretty soon we'll be seeing posts about brewing in the morning, drinking in the afternoon ;)

Good luck and hope it turns out well.  What temp do you ferment at to get done that fast? 
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: tomsawyer on May 13, 2011, 01:16:06 AM
Pretty soon we'll be seeing posts about brewing in the morning, drinking in the afternoon ;)

Good luck and hope it turns out well.  What temp do you ferment at to get done that fast? 

How about drinking some wort and chasing it with a vial of liquid yeast?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 13, 2011, 02:03:52 AM
Pretty soon we'll be seeing posts about brewing in the morning, drinking in the afternoon ;)

Good luck and hope it turns out well.  What temp do you ferment at to get done that fast? 

Think i'll keep the ambient at about 65*.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: tygo on May 13, 2011, 02:30:49 AM
Think i'll keep the ambient at about 65*.

Isn't that going to give you a pretty high (70+) fermentation temp?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: Hokerer on May 13, 2011, 02:36:22 AM
Think i'll keep the ambient at about 65*.

Isn't that going to give you a pretty high (70+) fermentation temp?

It sounds like he's giving priority to getting it done as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: tygo on May 13, 2011, 02:49:39 AM
Think i'll keep the ambient at about 65*.

Isn't that going to give you a pretty high (70+) fermentation temp?

It sounds like he's giving priority to getting it done as quickly as possible.

True, but I'm assuming he's looking to produce the best beer possible in that time frame.  He could take it up to 85F if he's looking for speed.  The yeast would be happy.

The times I've taken an APA or IPA above 68F for primary fermentation I haven't been happy with the results.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 13, 2011, 04:29:55 AM
You nailed it right on......I know it won't be my best beer. I know it could be better. But, due to time restraints, I'm gonna try and make the best beer I can for the time I have to get it done. Then, once I get back from Ohio, I brew 10 gallons of Oreo Cream Stout, and and totally blow their minds.  ;D
   Gonna look at my recipe, and lower the OG from the normal, also make adjustments to the hop additions to keep the IBU in the same range. I really think I have a good shot at making a good, drinkable beer in this timeframe.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: tygo on May 13, 2011, 10:21:35 AM
Then, once I get back from Ohio, I brew 10 gallons of Oreo Cream Stout, and and totally blow their minds.  ;D

Sounds like a good plan.   ;)
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: gmac on May 13, 2011, 01:40:40 PM
10 gallons of Oreo Cream Stout.
Sounds tasty.  Recipe?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: phillamb168 on May 13, 2011, 02:46:47 PM
10 gallons of Oreo Cream Stout.
Sounds tasty.  Recipe?

Yeah! Is that like a chocolate cream stout?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: denny on May 13, 2011, 03:02:13 PM
You nailed it right on......I know it won't be my best beer. I know it could be better.

See, I guess I just don't understand what the point is if this is the result.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: ccarlson on May 13, 2011, 03:13:36 PM
You nailed it right on......I know it won't be my best beer. I know it could be better.

See, I guess I just don't understand what the point is if this is the result.

+1
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: timberati on May 13, 2011, 05:23:11 PM
You nailed it right on......I know it won't be my best beer. I know it could be better.

See, I guess I just don't understand what the point is if this is the result.
I think I do.  Good enough is always good enough.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: denny on May 13, 2011, 05:36:59 PM
You nailed it right on......I know it won't be my best beer. I know it could be better.

See, I guess I just don't understand what the point is if this is the result.
I think I do.  Good enough is always good enough.

I guess I don't like to give beer (or anything else) to people unless it represents my best efforts.  In that case, to me, good enough is not good enough.  And let's go a step further...what if someone who was considering homebrewing is turned off to it because the beer isn't that great?  Yeah, maybe a bit hyperbolic, but maybe not.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 13, 2011, 05:38:41 PM
  I see your point as well. I still know that it will be better than bud though. (not like that says a lot.  ;D )
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: denny on May 13, 2011, 05:55:16 PM
  I see your point as well. I still know that it will be better than bud though. (not like that says a lot.  ;D )

Yeah, but IMO, water is better than Bud.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: Beer Monger on May 13, 2011, 05:57:28 PM
  I see your point as well. I still know that it will be better than bud though. (not like that says a lot.  ;D )

Yeah, but IMO, water is better than Bud.
Agreed.   8)
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: gmac on May 13, 2011, 10:25:55 PM
  I see your point as well. I still know that it will be better than bud though. (not like that says a lot.  ;D )

Yeah, but IMO, water is better than Bud.

There's a difference?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: gordonstrong on May 13, 2011, 10:57:30 PM
  I see your point as well. I still know that it will be better than bud though. (not like that says a lot.  ;D )

Yeah, but IMO, water is better than Bud.

There's a difference?


The price.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: timberati on May 13, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
  I see your point as well. I still know that it will be better than bud though. (not like that says a lot.  ;D )

Yeah, but IMO, water is better than Bud.

There's a difference?

Yonks ago I was on a fire (as fire behavior field observer) and Budweiser had donated cans of water to the firefighting effort. It was water they had (apparently) used to flush out their system. We called it Bud Water.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: Will's Swill on May 14, 2011, 12:20:46 AM

I guess I don't like to give beer (or anything else) to people unless it represents my best efforts.  In that case, to me, good enough is not good enough.  And let's go a step further...what if someone who was considering homebrewing is turned off to it because the beer isn't that great?  Yeah, maybe a bit hyperbolic, but maybe not.

You have a point, but as long as it's good, well what the heck.  I know that when I cook for a lot of people, I will often not get the same quality of ingredients as I get when just cooking for myself.  I might buy pre-packaged and pre-cooked vegetables, or frozen pizza dough, just to shave prep time.  I've even bought pre-formed burgers to save some time (though that has to be for A LOT of people for me to stoop to that).  I just make it up with the other ingredients.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: oscarvan on May 14, 2011, 12:40:35 AM
Actually, in my humble opinion, certain beers, specifically APA's and IPA's taste VERY good green. They won't be perfectly clear, but that's what non-transparent cups are for. They mellow with time and become less in your face, but personally an IPA, a week out of the bucket and force carbed has a certain organic charm to it.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 15, 2011, 03:32:25 AM
  I got my supplies today from the brewery. It was actually a very nice trip there. The brewess who denied me a recipe actually sat down with me and drank a beer (one of mine  :D ) and we talked beer, and she gave me a 50 cent tour. I scored 10 puond of grist and 4 oz of hops for 13$!! How cool is that! And, turns out she has had 5 pin lock corrnies ssitting in her basement, she let me have for 20$ each. SCORE!!
 But, you talked me into waiting this beer out it's propeer time. I am going to wait and brew it next weekend. I leave for Ohio  on the 24th, and get back the 11th. That will be just the right timing. Thank you all for bringing me to my senses.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: beer_crafter on May 16, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
the thing is, I think there are beers that you can brew and serve in 6 days with much less of a detriment to the beer than an IPA.  I'd be tempted to do an ordinary bitter or an american wheat ale. 
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: phillamb168 on May 16, 2011, 10:32:03 AM
the thing is, I think there are beers that you can brew and serve in 6 days with much less of a detriment to the beer than an IPA.  I'd be tempted to do an ordinary bitter or an american wheat ale. 

I've got a Special Bitter clone that's in the primary now, been bubbling since a little after I pitched yeast Saturday evening. Given your comment I'm hoping that I'll have something drinkable for my party in two weeks.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: denny on May 16, 2011, 03:33:51 PM
the thing is, I think there are beers that you can brew and serve in 6 days with much less of a detriment to the beer than an IPA.  I'd be tempted to do an ordinary bitter or an american wheat ale. 

Unless of course you don't care for ordinary bitter or wheat ale, like me.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: tschmidlin on May 16, 2011, 04:02:50 PM
the thing is, I think there are beers that you can brew and serve in 6 days with much less of a detriment to the beer than an IPA.  I'd be tempted to do an ordinary bitter or an american wheat ale. 

Unless of course you don't care for ordinary bitter or wheat ale, like me.
How about a mild Denny?  Irish stout, brown ale?  Even a hoppy pale ale can be done and delicious in a short period of time, you just need to understand the limitations of brewing on short notice.  Low gravity, quick fermentation, not a lot of time for playing around with flavors post ferment.  Ferment, chill, keg, carb, serve.  No problem.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: ccarlson on May 16, 2011, 04:08:58 PM
Quote
How about a mild Denny?  Irish stout, brown ale?  Even a hoppy pale ale can be done and delicious in a short period of time, you just need to understand the limitations of brewing on short notice.  Low gravity, quick fermentation, not a lot of time for playing around with flavors post ferment.  Ferment, chill, keg, carb, serve, drink.  No problem.

I corrected that for you. :)
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: denny on May 16, 2011, 04:57:30 PM
How about a mild Denny?  Irish stout, brown ale?  Even a hoppy pale ale can be done and delicious in a short period of time, you just need to understand the limitations of brewing on short notice.  Low gravity, quick fermentation, not a lot of time for playing around with flavors post ferment.  Ferment, chill, keg, carb, serve.  No problem.

I have never found a mild that I care for.  Burned out on Irish stout a long time ago.  LOVE hoppy American browns, English browns (as most English styles) do nothing for me.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: tschmidlin on May 16, 2011, 05:57:17 PM
How about a mild Denny?  Irish stout, brown ale?  Even a hoppy pale ale can be done and delicious in a short period of time, you just need to understand the limitations of brewing on short notice.  Low gravity, quick fermentation, not a lot of time for playing around with flavors post ferment.  Ferment, chill, keg, carb, serve.  No problem.

I have never found a mild that I care for.  Burned out on Irish stout a long time ago.  LOVE hoppy American browns, English browns (as most English styles) do nothing for me.
So you need a hoppy mild :)
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: denny on May 16, 2011, 06:14:50 PM
So you need a hoppy mild :)

With flavor and at least moderate body.  I've never found a mild I like that didn't remind me of water.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 16, 2011, 06:18:51 PM
How about a mild Denny? 

I find Denny to be pretty laid back, easy going, and mild.  ;D
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: denny on May 16, 2011, 06:47:40 PM
How about a mild Denny? 

I find Denny to be pretty laid back, easy going, and mild.  ;D

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Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: phillamb168 on May 17, 2011, 12:01:46 PM
So you need a hoppy mild :)

With flavor and at least moderate body.  I've never found a mild I like that didn't remind me of water.

I dunno, that's what I really like about milds - they're table beers. Drink 'em for breakfast if you want. Although perhaps that's me getting burned out on hops after having pulls from my new hop rocket every night for the last week.
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: Beer Monger on May 17, 2011, 01:10:57 PM
So you need a hoppy mild :)

With flavor and at least moderate body.  I've never found a mild I like that didn't remind me of water.

I dunno, that's what I really like about milds - they're table beers. Drink 'em for breakfast if you want. Although perhaps that's me getting burned out on hops after having pulls from my new hop rocket every night for the last week.

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Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: timberati on May 25, 2011, 03:14:11 AM
Been a lot of talk of fast beer lately. Well, darn it, I'm doing it! Got a bbq I'm planning next weekend, and my 10 gallons of wheat is about gone. It's gone over real well with my friends here. Need to get something else on tap for the party. So, I'm doing my house IPA. I've done it in 8 days before. This time, I plan to brew on Saturday, and keg 5 gallons of it Friday night, and cold crash it. Saturday morning, I will force carb it, and be drinking by 6 p.m. that day. I'll keg the other 5 gallons after it's had a full 14 days. Call me crazy, but i'm doing it!  8)
How did it work out?
Title: Re: Six day IPA
Post by: weazletoe on May 25, 2011, 03:16:53 AM
Ended up doing it the right way. I brewed it this past Saturday, and I will be home from Ohio to keg it on the 11th.