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Title: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: pinnah on May 12, 2011, 12:44:06 AM
Looking for some recommendations of your favorite combos.
I confess I may be leaning toward the hoppiest side of the style.

Those of you that know the American Brown,
what is your interpretation?

Thanks in advance. 8)

Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: SpanishCastleAle on May 12, 2011, 12:41:04 PM
AFAIK, it can be citrusy but doesn't have to be.  Do you want citrusy or no? 
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: pinnah on May 12, 2011, 01:29:23 PM
I don't mind citrus.  Might be good.

JZ uses Horizon and Amarillo.  I have never used Horizon, does it have any character as a bittering hop?

How about you Denny, I see that Noti has a Galena addition mid way.  Is that pretty important?  Sorry if that is a rude question, sort of like asking a cook if an ingredient is really needed.....I just don't have any Galena around.

Cheers.

Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: blatz on May 12, 2011, 01:40:13 PM
I don't mind citrus.  Might be good.

JZ uses Horizon and Amarillo.  I have never used Horizon, does it have any character as a bittering hop?

How about you Denny, I see that Noti has a Galena addition mid way.  Is that pretty important?  Sorry if that is a rude question, sort of like asking a cook if an ingredient is really needed.....I just don't have any Galena around.

Cheers.




I made JZ's recipe once, but used Columbus instead of Horizon just cause.  I was great - very citrusy - got a Silver with it IIRC.
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: Tim McManus on May 12, 2011, 02:15:34 PM
Cascade as a first wort hop.
Citra in the finish for about 5 minutes.
Drop hop with Centennial.
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: denny on May 12, 2011, 03:19:35 PM
How about you Denny, I see that Noti has a Galena addition mid way.  Is that pretty important?  Sorry if that is a rude question, sort of like asking a cook if an ingredient is really needed.....I just don't have any Galena around.

Cheers.



Not at all, man.  I do think they make a difference, based on not using them a couple times.  I haven't found Galena locally lately so I've been subbing in something else and I can't recall what.  I made a batch recently that's on tap now, so later today when I get to another computer I'll see what I used and post here.
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: jaybeerman on May 12, 2011, 05:45:21 PM
I made JZ's recipe once, but used Columbus instead of Horizon just cause.  I was great - very citrusy - got a Silver with it IIRC.


You are great!  :)

I like the Hallertauer-type browns, the citrusy browns and definitely the columbus hopped browns.  Brown ale with a mix of hallertauer-type and citrusy hops is just gravy (hop gravy).
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: blatz on May 12, 2011, 05:56:02 PM
You are great!  :)

Mind if I do a print-screen and frame this?   ;D
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: beersk on May 12, 2011, 06:54:38 PM
Damn, this inspired me to wanna brew an American brown ale.  I was looking for something new and/or different to brew, so I think I found my answer!
What comes to mind that I'd like to brew something similar to is Goose Island's Christmas Ale...hopped up brown ale...num num nummers!
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: jaybeerman on May 12, 2011, 07:47:56 PM
Mind if I do a print-screen and frame this?   ;D

funny stuff for sure.

Damn, this inspired me to wanna brew an American brown ale.  I was looking for something new and/or different to brew, so I think I found my answer!
What comes to mind that I'd like to brew something similar to is Goose Island's Christmas Ale...hopped up brown ale...num num nummers!

Something about spring weather (warm and bright but major clouds and rain constantly blowing through) makes me crave american brown and american stout with lots of hops.
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: beersk on May 12, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
Well I typically don't drink brown ales, not sure why.  I think it's because I associate brown ale with Newcastle, which sucks, and beers like Rogue's Nutbrown ale, which sucks.  Of course that's my opinion and it doesn't matter.  But they're gross to me. 
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: denny on May 12, 2011, 08:36:16 PM
Rogue's Nutbrown ale

That woukld be Hazelnut Brown, kind of a different animal.  Not that that makes me like it any better.  The guy who came up with the recipe (and whose pic is on the bottle) is a friend and club member.  Around here we call it Bald guy Brown.

Here's what I did for my last batch of Noti Brown.....

#394 Noti Brown

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (Gal):         5.50    Wort Size (Gal):    5.50
Total Grain (Lbs):       13.50
Anticipated OG:          1.064    Plato:             15.71
Anticipated SRM:          22.4
Anticipated IBU:          56.0
Brewhouse Efficiency:       79 %
Wort Boil Time:             70    Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
----------------

Evaporation Rate:       1.50    Gallons Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size:    7.25    Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity:      1.049    SG          12.07  Plato


Grain/Extract/Sugar

   %     Amount     Name                          Origin        Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 74.1    10.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row)              America        1.036      2
  9.3     1.25 lbs. Crystal 60L                   America        1.034     60
 13.0     1.75 lbs. Munich Malt(light)            America        1.033     10
  3.7     0.50 lbs. Chocolate Malt                America        1.029    350

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1.00 oz.    Tettnanger                        Pellet   4.30  14.9  60 min.
  0.50 oz.    Tettnanger                        Pellet   4.30   6.9  45 min.
  0.35 oz.    Columbus 2007                     Whole   15.80  16.0  45 min.
  1.00 oz.    Tettnanger                        Pellet   4.30  11.5  30 min.
  0.90 oz.    Tettnanger                        Pellet   4.30   6.7  15 min.
  1.00 oz.    Chinook 2008                      Whole   13.00   0.0  0 min.


Yeast
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Wyeast 1450 Denny's Favorite


Mash Schedule
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Mash Name:

Total Grain Lbs:   13.50
Total Water Qts:   22.00 - Before Additional Infusions
Total Water Gal:    5.50 - Before Additional Infusions

Tun Thermal Mass:   0.13
Grain Temp:        65.00 F


                     Step   Rest   Start   Stop  Heat     Infuse   Infuse  Infuse
Step Name            Time   Time   Temp    Temp  Type     Temp     Amount  Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
sacc                   0     60    152     152   Infuse   166       22.00   1.63


Total Water Qts:           22.00 - After Additional Infusions
Total Water Gal:            5.50 - After Additional Infusions
Total Mash Volume Gal:      6.58 - After Additional Infusions

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.
All infusion amounts are in Quarts.
All infusion ratios are Quarts/Lbs.




Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: beersk on May 12, 2011, 08:57:45 PM
Oh yeah, the Hazelnut Brown..yuck, that stuff is nasty.  That's a pretty good looking recipe and I've got a bunch of chocolate laying around and wasn't sure what to use it for, so I think I'll be brewing an American brown here soon. 
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: pinnah on May 13, 2011, 12:36:42 AM
Thanks very much for the thoughts and suggestions.

Guess I am going with
Mt Hood FWH, Amarillo @ 15, Amarillo and Citra @5 and perhaps a gob of Chinook at FO.
Trying to keep the chocolate to 4%.  I love me some hoppy porter :-[
Will try some special roast for the first time.

Rockin it all on a cake of Dennys favorite.

Cheers to the American Brown. 8)
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: jaybeerman on May 13, 2011, 03:47:02 AM
beersk, those examples of brown ale aren't my favorite either.  I tend to like american HOP brown ale or dark mild but thats it for brown ale types.  Denny, nice hop combo. 
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: pinnah on May 15, 2011, 01:03:10 PM
Denny, nice hop combo. 

Yea, I am loving the fact that Denny is using '07 Columbus :o

Well the hydro sample tasted a little funky, I am really hoping I did not ruin my Brown with that Special Roast.
Time will tell I guess, but is 8 ounces of special roast over the top? 
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: blatz on May 15, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
I use 1.25lbs special roast in my old ale  :o
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: denny on May 15, 2011, 03:35:51 PM
Yea, I am loving the fact that Denny is using '07 Columbus :o

That's just leftover in Promash.  They were actually 2010 Columbus.
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: bluesman on May 15, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
I like the special roast and possibly some pale chocolate.

Mt Hood at FWH sounds real nice and I also like the Chinook at flame out. I would mash it at 154F for some medium body to accompany the hops.
Title: Re: The American Brown - Recommend hop schedule
Post by: pinnah on May 25, 2011, 07:24:17 PM
They were actually 2010 Columbus.
:D All is well with the world again.

Well the initial funk is gone, and I got my first roasty hop burps off it last night.
I think I am going to like the style.  Hops seem a little muddled still, might go a bit simpler next round.

Cheers, thanks for the thoughts.