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Title: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: ckkelly on May 16, 2011, 08:06:42 PM
Brewed a india red ale and the body/mouthfeel seems a little too lite,  any suggestions on increaseing body without making it too malty.
    Thanks
  Here is the recipe I brewed:

17 gallon batch
60 min boil
Mashed @ 152

50% two-row
37.5% Munich
4.6 % C-80
5.7% C-40
.5% Black malt

60 min - 4.75oz simcoe, 2.25oz cascade
30 min - 3 oz amarillo
5 min - 2.25 oz simcoe, 2.25oz cascade
0 min - 2.25oz simcoe, 2.25oz cascade
plus 2.25oz of each for dry hopping

WLP 001 yeast
fermented @ 68
Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: blatz on May 16, 2011, 08:16:23 PM
nice recipe! I've made something similar before - quite tasty.

Well, there are three things you could do -
1) Increase your mash temp to 154-155
2) Add some Carafoam to the grist - maybe 2-3%.
3). Increase your current crystal malts.

If all you want to alter is the body perception, I would start with #1 and see what the result is.  If that doesn't work, try #2 or #3, with the former being opted if you are happy with the level of caramel flavor currently, or the latter if a little more caramel malt flavor would be okay.

Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: ckkelly on May 16, 2011, 08:37:45 PM
Thanks blatz, I was thinking the same thing. The only thing I would be concerned about increasing mash temp is wort fermentability, this brews F.G was 1.016 and I dont want it too much higher.
Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: dannyjed on May 16, 2011, 08:40:36 PM
I second raising your mash temp for more body.(maybe 155-156)  It works for me and and I have not seen that much difference in my FG.
Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: mabrungard on May 16, 2011, 09:47:08 PM
Adding a small percentage of either flaked wheat or barley would also increase the perception of body in the beer.  The balancing act is to avoid adding too much and producing a haze problem.
Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: Will's Swill on May 16, 2011, 11:40:29 PM
Would adding Carapils do the trick without changing the flavor much?
Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: gordonstrong on May 17, 2011, 05:34:10 PM
Would adding Carapils do the trick without changing the flavor much?

Shouldn' t change the flavor at all.  Just adds body.  For that size batch, maybe add 3/4 lb. as a start.
Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: blatz on May 17, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
Would adding Carapils do the trick without changing the flavor much?

FWIW - carapils ~ carafoam, hence my suggestion above.
Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: narcout on May 17, 2011, 09:38:42 PM
Would adding Carapils do the trick without changing the flavor much?

Shouldn' t change the flavor at all.  Just adds body.  For that size batch, maybe add 3/4 lb. as a start.

When using carapils, do you end up with a higher FG (but the increase in FG is due to the dextrins which contribute to body without adding sweetness)?



Title: Re: Advice for increasing body of india red ale
Post by: skyler on May 19, 2011, 06:50:45 AM
Adding a pound or two of malted or unmalted wheat or rye could help.