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Title: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 21, 2009, 09:21:07 PM
I'm brewing a Wee Heavy next week and have some WLP002. What is your preferred yeast for this beer?
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: ndcube on December 21, 2009, 09:27:25 PM
I made my first Wee Heavy today.  I'm using WY1728 as soon as the wort is pitching temp.  Haven't used it in a Wee Heavy but its worked good in the winter for me with other brews.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: hamiltont on December 21, 2009, 09:30:10 PM
I made my first Wee Heavy today.  I'm using WY1728 as soon as the wort is pitching temp.  Haven't used it in a Wee Heavy but its worked good in the winter for me with other brews.
+1 on the 1728, a perfect match IMO!!! 
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: blatz on December 21, 2009, 09:38:57 PM
kinda have to use 1728 on a wee heavy, this one is almost all about the yeast.

if you use 002, it'll be more like an English BW, IMO...
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: dhacker on December 21, 2009, 09:43:25 PM
Yep, 1728 gets the nod every time. Blatz is right . . the yeast IS the style!  ;)
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: denny on December 21, 2009, 09:54:15 PM
1728 at 55F for me.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: ndcube on December 21, 2009, 09:58:59 PM
Mine will probably be less than 55F this time of year.

I usually get a slight spicyness from 1728.  Is that the character we're talking about?
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: tom on December 21, 2009, 10:20:49 PM
Yeah, a little "smoky" phenolics.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 22, 2009, 02:02:23 AM
Well looks like I'll need to call the LHBS. They only carry White Labs so WLP028 Edinburgh Scottish Ale Yeast should work. Survey says....
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: tygo on December 22, 2009, 03:41:18 AM
Survey says that should be the same yeast according to what I can find out there on the interwebs
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: a10t2 on December 22, 2009, 05:50:34 AM
I've also used 1084 (Irish Ale). I can definitely tell the difference, but it isn't night-and-day (and I fact I think I may prefer the 1084). Convenient for me because I use 1084 much more often than 1728.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 22, 2009, 02:08:23 PM
Thanks for all of your input. I'm calling the LHBS today. I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: coypoo on December 22, 2009, 07:46:23 PM
which wee heavy are you going to make? for some reason today I have been reading a lot about teh troquair house one
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 22, 2009, 08:11:11 PM
Here's my revised recipe based off of Skotrat's Traquair House Clone recipe.

Wheatley's Wee Heavy

Strong Scotch Ale

Type: All Grain
Date: 12/28/2009
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer: bluesman
Boil Size: 5.5 gal
Boil Time: 120 min  
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
  
Ingredients
 
Amount Item Type % or IBU
16.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 99.01 %
0.16 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 0.99 %
0.75 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (60 min) Hops 17.3 IBU
1.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (30 min) Hops 15.7 IBU
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc  
7.50 gal Poland Spring (R) Water  
1 Pkgs Edinburgh Ale (White Labs #WLP028) [Starter 3500 ml] Yeast-Ale  

Beer Profile
 
Est Original Gravity: 1.083 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.022 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.09 %
Bitterness: 33.0 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
 
Mash Profile
  
Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge Step Time Name Description Step Temp
90 min Mash In Add 20.20 qt of water at 165.9 F 154.0 F
10 min Step Add 10.00 qt of water at 200.4 F 168.0 F

Notes
 
Boil down 1 gallon of first runnings to 1 pint.
 

 

 

 

 
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: redbeerman on December 22, 2009, 08:19:43 PM
Ron,  Looks good.  Had to take back my comments.  Looked at one of my recipes 30 IBU will be OK with age.  still don't really want any hop flavor though IMHO.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: The Professor on December 22, 2009, 08:38:14 PM
For Wee Heavy I've variously used (Wyeast numbers here for reference but have used White counterparts as well)  1968, 1728, 1098, 1099, 1056, and my house yeast (exact pedigree unknown). 
Any one of them is a great choice and every one of them has made really great Wee Heavy for me. 

Oddly, 1728 was my least favorite.  As I said, all were great...but the two most extraordinary ones (in my opinion and the opinion of most who tasted them)  were made with 1056 and 1099.
As always, your results may vary.

Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: corkybstewart on December 22, 2009, 09:05:54 PM
I used White Labs Edinburgh and ke[pt it around 60F for almost 3 weeks before it finally dropped to a reasonable FG.  It's delicious, clean and malty without any real sweetness.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 23, 2009, 02:17:10 AM
I just picked up a tube of White Labs WLP028 from my LHBS and made a 3.5L starter.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bonjour on December 23, 2009, 02:21:46 AM
1728 is my prefered, but I have used Nottingham (dry).  Both worked well.

Ferment under 60F for best results.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 23, 2009, 02:24:55 AM
1728 is my prefered, but I have used Nottingham (dry).  Both worked well.

Ferment under 60F for best results.

Nottingham? Really. I'm surprised, but I certainly trust your word on that Fred.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bonjour on December 23, 2009, 02:31:01 AM
It's really all about the malt,  As long as you let the yeast play a subdued role, which you will with a low ferment temp, it will work.

Fred
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 23, 2009, 02:42:48 AM
It's funny how you say it's all about the malt...while I've heard others say it's all about the yeast. I believe it's the malt that is at center stage.

My cellar is right at 60F...do you think that's okay?
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: blatz on December 23, 2009, 04:10:48 AM
It's funny how you say it's all about the malt...while I've heard others say it's all about the yeast. I believe it's the malt that is at center stage.

My cellar is right at 60F...do you think that's okay?

ok its the Malt and the Yeast - happy now!!!  ;)

Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on December 23, 2009, 04:30:28 AM
It's funny how you say it's all about the malt...while I've heard others say it's all about the yeast. I believe it's the malt that is at center stage.

My cellar is right at 60F...do you think that's okay?

ok its the Malt and the Yeast - happy now!!!  ;)


And where are the HOPS!!!
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 23, 2009, 12:41:50 PM
It's funny how you say it's all about the malt...while I've heard others say it's all about the yeast. I believe it's the malt that is at center stage.

My cellar is right at 60F...do you think that's okay?

ok its the Malt and the Yeast - happy now!!!  ;)


And where are the HOPS!!!

Side stage.  ;D
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 23, 2009, 12:42:36 PM
It's funny how you say it's all about the malt...while I've heard others say it's all about the yeast. I believe it's the malt that is at center stage.

My cellar is right at 60F...do you think that's okay?

ok its the Malt and the Yeast - happy now!!!  ;)



and don't forget the water now.  ;D
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: dhacker on December 23, 2009, 01:25:53 PM
I'm not a style Nazi by any means, but I just can't imagine using something as neutral as Nottingham in a Scottish Wee Heavy. EVERY beer has a malt profile. Lots of beers use the same malt bill with different yeasts to get an entirely different result. It's the yeast that ultimately defines a beer . . IMHO (and in the not so HO of others)   ;D ;)
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 29, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
Well I finally made the Wee Heavy yesterday. Overall it turned out to be a great brewday. I made a 3.5L starter using one tube of WLP028. I decanted most of the wort and pitched the slurry at 54F.

This was for a 5.5 gallon batch with an OG=1.082. I took 1 gallon of the first runnings and boiled it down to a pint then added it back into the kettle. I boiled for two hours and chilled to 54F. It's fermenting in my cellar @ 60F. This one should be ready for the NHC.

The airlock was bubbling early this am.  8)
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: corkybstewart on December 29, 2009, 09:12:46 PM
Well I finally made the Wee Heavy yesterday. Overall it turned out to be a great brewday. I made a 3.5L starter using one tube of WLP028. I decanted most of the wort and pitched the slurry at 54F.

This was for a 5.5 gallon batch with an OG=1.082. I took 1 gallon of the first runnings and boiled it down to a pint then added it back into the kettle. I boiled for two hours and chilled to 54F. It's fermenting in my cellar @ 60F. This one should be ready for the NHC.

The airlock was bubbling early this am.  8)
That sounds great.  What was your hop bill on this?  My wee heavy is the first beer I've ever even considered entering into a competition, and I'm glad I brewed 10 gallons, the first 5 is almost gone.
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: blatz on December 30, 2009, 12:39:45 AM
good job blue - let us know how it turns out!
Title: Re: What kind of yeast do you use for a Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on December 30, 2009, 12:42:05 AM
OK...hops.

1/2 oz Northern Brewer @ 60
1/2 oz Northern Brewer @ 40
1/2 oz EKG @ 30