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Title: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 22, 2009, 01:41:13 AM
What have you got?

I have a Saeco Italia. These things are like sports cars. Very cool, work great (when they work), but are in the shop a lot. Contemplating moving to something different and/or better. Who does what with their coffee?

I also roast sometimes with an air popper and hurricane glass. That should be a different thread maybe.

-OCD

Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: tygo on December 22, 2009, 02:18:16 AM
Good timing on this thread.  The glass carafe for my Cuisinart grind and brew (no idea on the model anymore) just busted and since I haven't been all that happy with it for awhile now I'm in the market for a new one. 
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 22, 2009, 02:28:53 AM
Do you drink a lot of coffee? Moka pots rock - but I drink too much to deal with those. Drip is OK if you have GOOD fresh coffee, but if I make a pot - I'll drink the whole pot. I got into the Superautomatic espresso machines about 6 years ago and guess I'm just willing to put up with it going into the shop every 12-18 months.

-OCD
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: tygo on December 22, 2009, 02:51:14 AM
Yeah, I drink a lot of coffee.  But for the home pot I'm generally just using it on weekends.  I'll brew the occasional half pot during the week before driving in but for the most part I don't have the time.  When I make a pot I drink the whole thing usually.  I buy whole bean and grind it but I don't roast it myself...yet.

What I need is a good drip machine that isn't overly time consuming.  Also, it'd be really nice if it dripped into an effective, heat-retaining carafe.  I still haven't found a carafe that holds heat well.  I'm thinking about going out and trying to find a glass lined thermos like my dad had for hunting.  You could drink a hot cup of coffee out of that at 4:00 PM after standing outside in 10 degree temperature all day.  The POS ones I get at BB&B last maybe 60 minutes at room temperature.

I like quality but I somewhat need simplicity since even with a simple drip pot by the time I get it brewing my son has said:

daddy what you doing?
daddy what you doing?
daddy what you doing?

rinse and repeat a dozen times
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: dontblake on December 22, 2009, 04:32:48 AM
We have the Capresso Thermal CarafeMT500.   Works great and I would recommend it to anyone!
It has a timer so that you can grind your beans before bedtime, then have it brew up fresh before you wake up.
The stainless steel carafe works well, too - the coffee is still piping hot 2.5 hrs after brewing - and is respectable up till about 5 hrs.
For the past several years, I would pour myself a "to-go" mug and sip on it while at work because the swill they had was barely good for doing dishes with.  Now that I work at a place that is smaller and has good beans, I don't need to make the effort, but do so anyway because it's really no effort.

Here's a link
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=capresso+thermal&oe=utf-8&cid=5469205829254766834&sa=title#p

We also have one of those mini espresso deals, but rarely used - only for the occasional cappuccino.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: tygo on December 22, 2009, 12:57:52 PM
After looking around on Amazon the Capressos are the only ones that caught my eye so far.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: theDarkSide on December 22, 2009, 01:19:03 PM
Mr. Coffee.  The same one I've had for the past 10 years.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: riverrat on December 22, 2009, 02:15:29 PM
French press and $#!++y blade grinder.  Hoping for a new burr grinder for Xmas!

Usually deal with the swill at work and only make coffee on the weekends.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: deepsouth on December 22, 2009, 03:02:47 PM
i don't drink coffee unless it's in my beer, but i bought the missus a keurig utlimate single cup system.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: maxieboy on December 23, 2009, 03:02:15 AM
Grind my own and use a French press. All you need.   :)
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 23, 2009, 08:54:51 PM
I think only thing I haven't tried is those Vaccuum Pots. Good coffee can be had from all methods; depends on your personal taste.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: capozzoli on December 24, 2009, 02:12:50 PM
I Just use a pot, 1940's style,  I boil some nice clean water and add some fresh ground beans. 
Wait for the crema to rise then stir once and strain. Works better than any coffee machine I have ever used.


Vacuum and siphon ar the same thing?   I would like to have one of these. But more for looks than performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3JcOndpcGU

 
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 24, 2009, 02:51:49 PM
I Just use a pot, 1940's style,  I boil some nice clean water and add some fresh ground beans. 
Wait for the crema to rise then stir once and strain. Works better than any coffee machine I have ever used.


Super fine grounds? Turkish coffee.(http://www.bodrum-turkey.org/PHOTOS/TurkishCoffeeBrandKurukahveciMehmetEfendi.jpg)
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: capozzoli on December 24, 2009, 03:25:33 PM
 I ordered Turkish coffee once when I was in Budapest. I was in a Greek restaurant, and they were so offended by my request that they refused to serve me.  :o
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 24, 2009, 03:40:19 PM
I ordered Turkish coffee once when I was in Budapest. I was in a Greek restaurant, and they were so offended by my request that they refused to serve me.  :o

Ha! I do it on purpose in Greek restaurants too. I order Turkish..."you mean Greek" they say to me ... it's Turkish coffee, get me some. Greek coffee beans - which is what would make it Greek vs Turkish IMO is actually pretty bad.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: dean on December 24, 2009, 04:59:06 PM
I think it was BoulderBrewer that sent me a sample of his cold brewed coffee... it was delicious.  I haven't picked up the gear to make a cold brew coffee maker yet but I'm planning on it after getting a bit more settled here.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: corkybstewart on December 24, 2009, 10:53:11 PM
We use melita cones and filters for one cup at a time.  We all have different strength requirements so it's easier to custom make each cup, plus 2 cups per day is one more than normal.  My wife puts 2 heaping tablespoons for each cup.  And I roast my own beans and use a burr grinder.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: boulderbrewer on December 25, 2009, 05:13:10 AM
Cold brew is where it is at,Here is the web site.


http://www.filtron.com/


another site

http://www.toddycafe.com/shop/?gad=CJ2gyM0CEgiTIlT44j0cvRj78_v-AyDNjsgV&utm_source=Yahoo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=cold%2Bbrew%2Bcoffee&utm_content=Coffee%2Bmaker&utm_campaign=Toddy&OVRAW=cold%20brew%20coffee&OVKEY=cold%20brew%20coffee&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=17975965512&OVKWID=166798392012

this one has a nice carfe
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 25, 2009, 03:01:17 PM
How's the caffeine output on cold brewed? While I do enjoy coffee for the taste, it sure would suck to go into caffeine withdrawal. I popped some coffee and water into a french press, I'll let it sit until after dinner and see what I get.

edit: Found it..."Our claim is cold brewed coffee has approximately 33 percent less caffeine than coffee brewed (using regular caffeinated beans) by conventional hot water methods."
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: joelambic on December 28, 2009, 12:09:01 AM
As I delve into the coffee obsession, I've added several brewing rigs over the last couple of years.

I started with a Starbucks auto drip machine that ended up getting recalled due to some wiring issues so it is no more.  I used the recall funds to switch to a Bunn BTX drip machine.  I think the Bunn is on par with the Technivorm and other high-end drip machines but some adjustments to grind & dose and/or the shower head are needed to compensate for Bunn's 3 minute brew cycle.

After hearing a friend rave about his experience, I picked up an Aeropress; great for anything from a single cup to a 16oz mug and is my travel brewer when paired with a Turkish hand grinder.

After sampling coffee from a Chemex manual pourover, I picked one up and use that whenever I want to brew 4-8 cups.  I like the clean flavors of the Chemex but do need to transfer to a thermal container as it cools quickly.

My latest addition is a Clever Coffee Dripper.  I've been using this to brew a single cup at a time.  The jury is still out whether I find it better, same, or worse than the other methods.

All manual brewing methods use a Chef's Choice electric kettle for hot water production.

Lastly, for espresso, I have a Vivaldi II and home roasting is done on a Gene Cafe with an external cooling device.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: k4df4l on December 28, 2009, 02:26:40 AM
Burr grinder, electric kettle with either a french press, or as of Christmas, an aeropress.  I've used all sorts of machines and methods but always come back to the press.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: boulderbrewer on December 29, 2009, 02:58:18 AM
I have never noticed the lack of caffine. I appreciate the taste first. ;)  I make my coffee strong so that may be why I don't notice the lack of caffine. Maybe time to try a french press or an Aeropress, to see what I may be missing.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: capozzoli on December 29, 2009, 04:33:11 AM
Im not into the French press, forces to much of the tannins out of the beans. I do better with just a pot of hot water. 

If you use one dont press it all the way down.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 30, 2009, 02:16:38 AM
Ordered my new coffee maker this morning - Delonghi 3300.
(http://coffeegeek.com/images/35312/200x200/delonghi3300.jpg)


-OCD



Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: tygo on December 30, 2009, 03:49:24 AM
I ended up just getting this one. (http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=15087161&RN=2353)

Mine was busted and I needed one immediately since I'm having a bunch of out of town friends over for NYE.  Not 100% what I wanted but it'll do for now.  Between the standard 20% off BB&B coupon, a rebate, and the gift card my parents got us for xmas it cost me $7.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 30, 2009, 04:31:25 AM
$7 SuperAutomatic Espresso Machine - Sweet!

I got  a second year warranty through WholeLatteLove VS BBB but not the 20% off - only 10%. It had tons of good reviews, most importantly on the reliability scores. I've always owned Saeco's and they just break down way too often, but after the initial investment you're kinda stuck with it for a while.

What was the machine you actually wanted? Oh, and please tell me the 3300 is a decent machine.

EDIT: Pfft - totally misread your post. Drinking and posting sometimes don't work well together. Like the fact that the grey letters are a link and the black letters are regular text.   :P
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: tygo on December 30, 2009, 05:06:04 AM
This is what I wanted. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000063XHI/ref=s9_simp_gw_s2_p79_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1YG0DJE47M8VABJ73MM4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846)

Based both on dontblake's review and my going through every coffee pot on amazon and not finding anything else I remotely liked.  But it didn't qualify for free shipping and the shipping charge was outrageous so I fell back on what I could find at BB&B.

5 or so pots in and it seems like it's working well.  The thermal carafe is better than the ones I've had but still doesn't seem to hold the heat as well as I'd like.  I'm probably just nitpicking at this point since it does hold it pretty well.

And I have no experience on the 3300 you bought so no help there.  It does look like a nice machine though!
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on December 30, 2009, 05:20:17 AM
This is what I wanted. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000063XHI/ref=s9_simp_gw_s2_p79_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1YG0DJE47M8VABJ73MM4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846)
 The thermal carafe is better than the ones I've had but still doesn't seem to hold the heat as well as I'd like.  I'm probably just nitpicking at this point since it does hold it pretty well.

You need one of those ugly green STANLEY thermos bottles. Never seen anything hold coffee hot for longer. (without power)
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: tygo on December 30, 2009, 05:41:16 AM

You need one of those ugly green STANLEY thermos bottles. Never seen anything hold coffee hot for longer. (without power)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking actually.  I believe they have a vacuum sealed glass insert.  
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: k4df4l on December 30, 2009, 11:10:05 AM
Im not into the French press, forces to much of the tannins out of the beans. I do better with just a pot of hot water. 

If you use one dont press it all the way down.

I've found that water temps and brew time are critical.  I like the water around 195 and plunge after steeping for 3-4 minutes.  If you use boiling water, let it set too long or let it sit in the pot too long before drinking, you can get a sub-par cup. 
Edit:  Sweet Maria's has a nice tip sheet on using a press:

http://www.sweetmarias.com/brewinstr/brewinstr.frenchpress.html
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: onthekeg on February 23, 2010, 03:18:09 AM
I drink too much coffee each day, but I don't see the need to spend money on the maker.  I spend about 15-20 dollars on the pot now days.  Used to have a Bunn, but they are for quick coffee, not good coffee IMHO.  I use quality beans and a cheap pot.  Same as my beer.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on February 23, 2010, 03:11:52 PM
Yeah, I used to pound 2-3 pots a day easily. Now I'm more in the 3-5 cup range. For me it's along the lines of beer. If you sit and drink a turkish coffee you're not gonna throw them down like you would a cup of Folger's (not that there's anything wrong with that). Same like an imperial stout vs a Guinness.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: majorvices on February 23, 2010, 09:21:44 PM
Let me give out a shout to the AeroPress - yeah, I know, it looks like a corny POS but it makes a fantastic cup of coffee. Way better than any drip machine and better then a press pot as well (was smoother than a presspot with no grit at the bottom of the cup).

Now, I know it says "espresso maker" but it is not an espresso maker per se - it does make an espresso like cup of coffee before you water it down, and it even gives off some crema if your beans are fresh - but it is not an espresso maker. Just a fantastic, simple way to make 1-4 cups of coffee. Highly recommend it, fellas!

http://www.aerobie.com/Products/aeropress_story.htm
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: capozzoli on February 23, 2010, 10:21:31 PM
That aero press looks cool. It looks kinda like the Vietnamese coffee pots.

(http://www.restaurants.ie/thumbnailpics/102.jpg)

Ever have a Vietnamese coffee? Damn good stuff.

They use Cafe Du-Monde, which is 75% coffee mixed with 25% chicory. It drips into your cup on top of a few tablespoons of sweetened condensed milk. 
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: beerocd on February 23, 2010, 11:43:55 PM
Now that you brought that up - Thai Iced coffee ROCKS!
The coffee actually comes from Thailand.
They just steep it forever in like a big grain sock, in a huge pot, then wring it out.
Has a mint like undertone to it, with the condensed milk - it's just awesome.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: bluesman on February 24, 2010, 12:48:40 AM


Ever have a Vietnamese coffee? Damn good stuff.

They use Cafe Du-Monde, which is 75% coffee mixed with 25% chicory. It drips into your cup on top of a few tablespoons of sweetened condensed milk. 

I drank Cafe Du-Monde coffee while I was in New Orleans and I became a huge fan of that style. I also like Kona coffee. The bigger and bolder the better for me. I just don't like burnt coffee beans because they're way too bitter.
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: majorvices on February 24, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
I grew up drinking Cafe de Monde even in PA (my mom had it special ordered) and still stop and get a can at the store sometimes (you can find it in the south) - makes a good cafe au lait. Taste way better in New Orleans. I also keep all my bacon drippoings in a Cafe du Monde can. ;)

Drinking my second cup of aero-press coffee right now. That's one thing I will warn about - compared to press or drip coffee, it is quite a shot of caffeine!
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: euge on March 02, 2010, 05:52:13 AM
French Press? Yes
Cheap aluminum stovetop espresso maker? Yes
Expensive Starbucks DeLonghi drip? Yes
Free Gevalia drip? Yes
Starbucks Burr grinder? Yes ($50 Ebay sniped)
Blade Grinder? Yes
DIY Coffee roaster? Yes

IMO the Gevalia makes the best drip coffee due to the fact that it stays in the 190's during most of the cycle. The Delonghi sucks.

The $15 Espresso maker will make a hair-raising 16oz mug.

French press is nice but if the grind is not right it tastes too earthy plus the coffee sits on the grinds unless decanted immediately.

Carafes should see a pre-heating just like your mash tun.

Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 02, 2010, 06:04:28 AM
I'm a cold brew guy even though I don't get the caffine, but if I can drink my coffee without bitterness, I can drink more than enough to make up for it
Title: Re: Coffee Makers
Post by: k4df4l on March 02, 2010, 10:38:30 AM
Let me give out a shout to the AeroPress - yeah, I know, it looks like a corny POS but it makes a fantastic cup of coffee. Way better than any drip machine and better then a press pot as well (was smoother than a presspot with no grit at the bottom of the cup).

Now, I know it says "espresso maker" but it is not an espresso maker per se - it does make an espresso like cup of coffee before you water it down, and it even gives off some crema if your beans are fresh - but it is not an espresso maker. Just a fantastic, simple way to make 1-4 cups of coffee. Highly recommend it, fellas!

http://www.aerobie.com/Products/aeropress_story.htm

I picked up an aeropress at Christmas on the recommendation of another brewer and it does make a really nice cup of coffee; very smooth and rich.  It does knock out some of the high/bright flavors compared to some other brewing methods but OTOH for the same reason, it'll make a decent cup out of some crummy coffee.   It's great for those days where I'm out of the house before my wife wakes up and I just want 1 cup.