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Title: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: Kit B on June 08, 2011, 08:26:11 PM
Has anyone tried their hand capper on the newer style bottles?
That is...There are a lot of new bottles out there that have a very short collar, beneath the lip...
It seems to me that many hand-held cappers may run into some trouble sealing them.

To make a comparison, around at some of the bottles your local liquor store has & compar the necks.
Some look like this:
(http://photos8.socializr.com/86/33/52/863352744m.jpg)

Others, like this:
(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/anest/anest0902/anest090200094/4368964-macro-of-beer-bottle-neck-and-cap.jpg)
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: tom on June 08, 2011, 09:02:11 PM
Maybe put a coin on top of the cap or get a bench capper?
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: Slowbrew on June 08, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
The "new" bottles always shattered using my clam shell capper.  The glass was too thin.

Paul
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: Kit B on June 08, 2011, 09:58:09 PM
Maybe put a coin on top of the cap or get a bench capper?

I'm not complaining, or even saying that there is a problem...
I'm just curious as to whether anyone noticed any issues.
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: bluesman on June 09, 2011, 01:24:17 AM
I haven't had any bottling issues lately but I'm not sure I've even used the new design yet. I'll keep a lookout for them.
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: rabid_dingo on June 09, 2011, 02:23:18 AM
I did notice that there is an amber bottle Carlsberg I think, that the lip was
insufficient to fully crimp the crown on the bottle. It was not as dark as the
local brown bottles, just a tad lighter.  After one bad bottle, I pulled
the rest out. At that time I had enough of others to accomodate the change
in the lineup...
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: Hokerer on June 09, 2011, 02:44:51 AM
I did notice that there is an amber bottle Carlsberg I think, that the lip was
insufficient to fully crimp the crown on the bottle. It was not as dark as the
local brown bottles, just a tad lighter.  After one bad bottle, I pulled
the rest out. At that time I had enough of others to accomodate the change
in the lineup...

Did the same with any Bass bottles I had
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: brewmasternpb on June 09, 2011, 03:16:43 AM
Are these bottles the way of the future?  Hope not.
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: coastsidemike on June 09, 2011, 03:37:21 AM
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Are these bottles the way of the future?  Hope not.

I consider bottle type and label peeling when buying.  Drake's uses a light glue that's perfect (and their beers are spot on excellent), kinda looking for something like that for custom labels, but the favorite are those 24oz Sierra Nevada bottles - anywhere to get those by the case?

Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: euge on June 09, 2011, 06:26:39 AM
I just successfully and easily capped a new-fangled style bottle with my wing-capper. I compared an old bottle to the different new one. The industry will save millions in glass over the next years.



Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: tschmidlin on June 09, 2011, 06:27:59 AM
And shipping too I imagine.  Or the carriers will save on gas at least.
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: alikocho on June 09, 2011, 07:18:37 AM
I find that I can cap with a wing capper on the new style, but the capper needs to be dead level and you have to go easy on the pressure applied or the seal can be a bit off.

As mentioned, with a bench capper there are no issues.
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: punatic on June 09, 2011, 02:30:41 PM
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Are these bottles the way of the future?  Hope not.

I consider bottle type and label peeling when buying.  Drake's uses a light glue that's perfect (and their beers are spot on excellent), kinda looking for something like that for custom labels, but the favorite are those 24oz Sierra Nevada bottles - anywhere to get those by the case?


I just bought 3 cases of SN Southern Hemisphere Harvest in 24oz bottles at Island Naturals in Pahoa.  Man I really like that beer!  Those bottles are destined to hold mead when emptied. 

I use a bench capper.  One I received for Christmas from my boss in 1990.  I like it cause it's like a bullet press for reloading, and it works great on all crown cap finished bottles.
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: beer_crafter on June 10, 2011, 02:09:30 PM
those lips are not really all that new, I think anchor has had them for years.

 A black beauty capper has no trouble.
The red capper can't handle 'em.
Title: Re: Newfangled bottle necks
Post by: euge on June 10, 2011, 05:10:02 PM
those lips are not really all that new, I think anchor has had them for years.

 A black beauty capper has no trouble.
The red capper can't handle 'em.


I used a red one...