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Title: Coffee roasting
Post by: beerocd on December 25, 2009, 02:01:09 AM
Anyone? I think I saw one or two of you mentioning it.

As I said in another thread I use a popcorn pumper and a hurricane glass. Those are unmodified, but I use an extra long power cord which will extend the roast times just enough to get better tasting coffee. It's totally by sight and sound - after second crack I give it maybe 5 seconds and dump it all out to cool. The house smells awesome when I bring in the hot beans.

Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on December 25, 2009, 02:47:38 AM
I'm totaly in to it, I have a Gene Cafe' but I have some popcorn poppers in reserve. Coffee is like beer to me!
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: beerocd on December 25, 2009, 03:09:08 AM
I'm totaly in to it, I have a Gene Cafe' but I have some popcorn poppers in reserve. Coffee is like beer to me!


That's pretty serious, I just looked at it on Sweet Maria's. I could maybe talk myself into the Behmor but you're outta my ballpark. I think I'd like to DIY something, maybe with a pid or timer (could be cheaper to buy the Gene  ;) ) - but the beer rig has to come first.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on December 25, 2009, 05:06:08 AM
Like brewiing your equipment does not matter, the price forces the mothers of invemtion. I roasted in my oven b-4 the Gene. It is like owning a Conical Fermenter top of the line.:)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: corkybstewart on December 25, 2009, 02:57:44 PM
I had a Zach and Dani's roaster for the first 3 or 4 years I roasted, then "upgraded" to the IRoast 2.  I've used up 2 of them, they seem designed to last 13 months, now I'm back to a pair of popcorn poppers.  It's slow but works well and is cheap.
We like Central American and Indonesian beans most of the time, but I did find some Venezuelan beans that were phenomenal.  I think the company is Angel Falls Coffee  or something similar.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: joelambic on December 28, 2009, 12:14:05 AM
I also have a Gene Cafe.  At the time, I wanted something that could handle 1/2 pound batches.  The Hot Top was out of my price range and the Behmor hadn't been released.  I do like the easy control over time and temperature it offers.  Cooling is the weakest point and I recently switched to an external cooling device (stainless strainer mounted in a 5gal bucket with a Shop Vac).

I've been stopping the roast anywhere from about 1 minute past the end of first crack to just after the first snaps of second crack.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: k4df4l on December 28, 2009, 02:29:45 AM
I've been roasting for the better part of the past several months with the heat gun/dog bowl method.  Over the course of the past few cold weeks, I've switched to a cast iron pan on the stove top and while it hasn't yielded the most consistent roast, it's been serviceable.  I'll probably be scanning evilbay for a deal on a behmor this winter.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: MDixon on December 31, 2009, 01:11:37 PM
For a small batch I use a popcorn popper. For a much larger batch I modified the stirrer in a bread machine to be switchable and put the heating element on a rheostat/dimmer. I heat up the machine, dump in the beans and then use a heat gun to do the actual roasting. My original plan was to use the element, but it was too inconsistent and too hot so I only use it to get the machine hot. I can do a few pounds using this method and equipment, but generally about 1/2 pound is my MO.

I wrote about it here
http://forums.morebeer.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22562
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: euge on February 22, 2010, 07:13:53 PM
Modified $15 Poplite popcorn popper here, Use two stripped down tomato-cans as a chimney. Takes about a cup of beans at a time. Love the idea of the hurricane glass. Will have to try it

Have made my own blends that kick the hell out of Starbucks'.

Here's some pics of when I first built it in 2006. The third can wasn't necessary.

(http://www.ineedcoffee.com/06/airpopper/images/000_0023c.jpg)

(http://www.ineedcoffee.com/06/airpopper/images/000_0026c.jpg)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: Slowbrew on May 11, 2010, 09:43:52 PM
I use a 14" wok and heat over the same turkey fryer burner I brew with.

Set the flame almost low as it can go and take your time.  Start out the lid on the wok.  Once they start to crack remove the lid and start stirring.  Be ready to start cooling just a bit before they reach the color you're going for.

All the smoke stays outside and it really keeps your neighbors guessing about what you're doing.   ;D

Paul
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: rabid_dingo on August 14, 2010, 07:01:11 AM
I just use a medium sauce pan on high heat and move the beans all over the place with a bamboo spoon.
I had not roasted in a long while and had succumbed to buying a can of ground coffee. Then I roasted,
ground and had a fresh cup. Whoa what a difference. My coffee is a million times better. I just don't
like getting the chaff all over the stove... ;)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: euge on November 10, 2010, 08:05:53 AM
Now in a vain attempt to stave off cirrhosis I'm dusting off these unroasted beans.  ;D

5# 3oz Mynanamar arabica
3# 10oz Mystery arabica. A peaberry I think. Maybe Ethiopian
1# 10oz Kenya AA

If memory serves me right:

4 parts of the Mynanamar
2 parts of the Peaberry
1 part Kenya AA

I like going right to second crack and then cooling in a colander.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: thirsty on November 10, 2010, 03:12:42 PM

All the smoke stays outside and it really keeps your neighbors guessing about what you're doing.   ;D

Paul

I do the same thing in a cast iron pot over my fire pit. Just keep stirring.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: redbeerman on November 10, 2010, 03:21:53 PM
I wish I had the time to roast.  SWMBO and I love good coffee.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: chezteth on November 10, 2010, 11:58:39 PM
I used to have a Hearthware coffee roaster before the I-Roast came out.  I really enjoyed it.  After it died I started using a hot air popcorn popper.  It's not ideal but it works.  I haven't modded the popper even though it would produce better results.  I have been considering getting an I-Roast2 as I got to play with one a few months ago and really liked it.  I have also used the heat gun - dog bowl method.  It is much more "hands on" and can really help you understand the roasting process.  It also allows you to roast a lot more than a popcorn popper.  The freshness of the beans can't be beat.  Now if I could just get my wife to stop buying gas station coffee...   ;)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on November 13, 2010, 05:51:52 AM
If you can afford a Gene Cafe' it is a wonderful machine. Ours is 3 years old and we roast a pound of coffee every week, sometimes even more.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: corkybstewart on November 13, 2010, 05:54:15 AM
If you can afford a Gene Cafe' it is a wonderful machine. Ours is 3 years old and we roast a pound of coffee every week, sometimes even more.
The wife owes me a couple of Christmas and birthday presents, that may go on my list since ALL(almost) the coffee I roast is for her
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on November 13, 2010, 06:10:47 AM
It is like a temperature controled conical and a Brewmagic all rolled into one.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: punatic on November 13, 2010, 04:19:10 PM
Late to da party again.  Just now spotted this thread.  I have an excuse though.  I've been distracted by the

Kona Coffee Cultural Festival (http://www.konacoffeefest.com/default.htm)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: phillamb168 on November 17, 2010, 08:32:56 PM
Not much to do with roasting per se, but once you get the beans, how do you do your grinding? I just picked up a Bodum Bistro burr grinder and holy moly, the FIRST grind gave me the best coffee I've had in a long, long time. Plus it look nice too! Here's a photo with some of the Square Mile coffee I have on a monthly subscription:

(http://philliplamb.com/coffee.jpg)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: euge on November 17, 2010, 08:40:22 PM
Awww that looks cute...

I agree a burr grinder does a more consistent grind than blades- which smash the beans to bits.

I got a Starbucks burr grinder off ebay for $50 with shipping. Not lid, but they local place gave me one for free.

Phil, there's a way to adjust the grind further if it isn't going as fine as you want (espresso) if it's anything like the MrCoffee burr grinder.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: phillamb168 on November 17, 2010, 09:03:07 PM
Phil, there's a way to adjust the grind further if it isn't going as fine as you want (espresso) if it's anything like the MrCoffee burr grinder.

Yup, it goes from super-coarse for french press all the way down to super fine for espresso. I've only got a french press, bien sur, but we just ordered a cheapo drip coffee maker for the masses coming for thanksgiving (coffee service for 20 is difficult when you only have two 8-oz french presses!). I'm looking forward to trying it out to see how the flavors differ.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: punatic on November 17, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
I have two 1L Thermos-Nissan stainless insulated french presses that rock!  I used to use glass presses, but the coffee got cold way too fast.  Two so that I can put a second one on when there is company.

(http://i.pgcdn.com/pi/1/04/67/10467203_260.jpg)

I always take one camping too.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: tschmidlin on November 17, 2010, 09:32:45 PM
I'm not much of a coffee drinker, but I always found the vacuum pot coffee to be the best, French press was in second.  Vacumm pots are hard to find though, and the electric one I developed for Starbucks never really took off.  Too bad really, the coffee was excellent.  :-\     I think Bodum still makes a stovetop one.  The Bodum grinders are really good too.  :)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: phillamb168 on November 17, 2010, 09:36:20 PM
That press looks nice! I'm getting a drip also so I can have the coffee maker in the bedroom. The plan is that SWMBO and I will get up earlier and have a nice coffee in bed before getting up for reals, and drip + timer means it might be easier. But you can never have too many french presses.

tschmidlin, you built a coffee maker for starbucks? Surely there's some more to tell there? :-)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: tschmidlin on November 17, 2010, 09:54:26 PM
tschmidlin, you built a coffee maker for starbucks? Surely there's some more to tell there? :-)
Not really.  I spent a couple of years in Starbucks R&D, developing and/or testing equipment.  We didn't do any of our own manufacturing, but partnered with various companies and developed our own specs for grinders and coffee makers with the goal of improving the end product (ie the drink).  For that machine I got to spend a week on the Isle of Man visiting pubs (and a heating element manufacturer), a week in Cologne visiting pubs (and a trade show), and a week in Luzern visiting pubs (and Bodum). ;D

We also did stuff like build a mobile coffee shop for Lilith Fair, and try to figure our a way to make what is now called Via.  I was more on the retail equipment side though.  Oh, and of course everyone in R&D was conscripted onto various tasting panels (coffee, ice cream, frappucino, sandwiches, etc), which was how I ended up on the Redhook Double Black Stout reformulation panel.

It was fun . . . until it wasn't.  :-\ 

Well, I guess there was a little more to tell. :)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: corkybstewart on November 17, 2010, 09:59:08 PM
tschmidlin, you built a coffee maker for starbucks? Surely there's some more to tell there? :-)
  Oh, and of course everyone in R&D was conscripted onto various tasting panels (coffee, ice cream, frappucino, sandwiches, etc), which was how I ended up on the Redhook Double Black Stout reformulation panel.

It was fun . . . until it wasn't.  :-\ 

Well, I guess there was a little more to tell. :)
I love the ice cream but I won't drink their over-roasted overpriced coffee.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: tschmidlin on November 17, 2010, 10:12:30 PM
I love the ice cream but I won't drink their over-roasted overpriced coffee.
I don't like coffee all that much anyway, but you should always drink what you like*






*Drink Starbucks coffee, I still have my stock ;D
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on November 17, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
I use this for grinding.

http://www.amazon.com/Hopper-Cast-Grinder-Wheat-Grain/dp/B0038NPJVG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1290033885&sr=8-5
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: phillamb168 on November 19, 2010, 11:24:06 AM
I use this for grinding.

http://www.amazon.com/Hopper-Cast-Grinder-Wheat-Grain/dp/B0038NPJVG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1290033885&sr=8-5

That there is my grain mill. I dunno that I'd use coffee in it, though, as I'd be worried about coffee oils making my grain taste weird.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: MDixon on November 19, 2010, 12:35:55 PM
This is actually my grinder (though not an actual photo of it).
(http://bakeryequipment.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/dsc01564.jpg?w=229&h=300)

I hate to admit how much I love it...
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on November 20, 2010, 04:49:23 AM
I use this for grinding.

http://www.amazon.com/Hopper-Cast-Grinder-Wheat-Grain/dp/B0038NPJVG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1290033885&sr=8-5

That there is my grain mill. I dunno that I'd use coffee in it, though, as I'd be worried about coffee oils making my grain taste weird.

That is how I started but I have since moved to a different grain crusher, so I have to use what I have and it rocks as a coffee grinder. Sort of a poor mans bur grinder.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: beveragebob on December 04, 2010, 07:03:07 AM
I started with a Hot Top and loved it. Used it for over 5 years then I moved up to this:

(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h377/scrarjg/Coffee_Roasting_Machine_TKMSX_KAHVE_KAVURMA_BUYUK_RESIM_coffee_roasting_macine_toper.jpg)


Except mine is black and this is a pic of the model not me.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on December 05, 2010, 03:56:41 AM
Nice barrel roaster, how long does it take to cool after the first crack and when do you dump to hit the second crack without going overboard. You roast 25# at a time.  That is a crazy wild machine for roasting!
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: beveragebob on December 07, 2010, 11:27:23 AM
Depending on the varietal, I usually do light to medium roasts, I usually dump the beans in the cooling tray ~ 10-15 seconds after first crack. I take some espresso blends into rolling second crack then dump. The machine holds 5 Lbs of green but, I can do concurrent back to back batches. I can do about 20#'s an hour. I just did 10#'s the other day for a neighbor of mine that wants to give good fresh roasted coffee for XMAS gifts.   
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on December 09, 2010, 03:38:02 AM
I was thinking you did this for a business. Cool that you got this at home. I cringe at roasters that only produce the oily,charred mess. Nice burr grinder by the way.

Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: beveragebob on December 09, 2010, 03:56:36 AM
I did it for my Chocolate and Coffee shop that got nailed by the economy. We shut down but, kept all of our toys. You don't even want to see my espresso machine or my commercial coffee brewing equipment.  :D
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: jeffy on December 09, 2010, 12:24:01 PM
I did it for my Chocolate and Coffee shop that got nailed by the economy. We shut down but, kept all of our toys. You don't even want to see my espresso machine or my commercial coffee brewing equipment.  :D

Actually we do want to see it.........
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: corkybstewart on December 09, 2010, 01:15:36 PM
I did it for my Chocolate and Coffee shop that got nailed by the economy. We shut down but, kept all of our toys. You don't even want to see my espresso machine or my commercial coffee brewing equipment.  :D
Where was your shop, what was the name?  I think I may have been in there.  My wife is getting a MSN from NMSU so she goes over there a couple of times per semester.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: beveragebob on December 10, 2010, 07:34:35 AM
Our shop was back in Chico, CA. It was called Chocolate Mystique Cafe. Moved to Las Cruces to pick up an aerospace job with NASA to keep a roof over my head. I'll post some pics of my other gadgets I still have.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: lonnie mac on December 12, 2010, 04:26:35 PM
Well I hope my wife likes coffee roasting! I just dropped down on a Behmor 1600 and a Krups GVX2 Burr Grinder last night. Could be an interesting Christmas! I know almost nothing about this, but I do love a good cup of coffee and the whole process looks pretty fun.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: punatic on December 12, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
Well I hope my wife likes coffee roasting! I just dropped down on a Behmor 1600 and a Krups GVX2 Burr Grinder last night. Could be an interesting Christmas! I know almost nothing about this, but I do love a good cup of coffee and the whole process looks pretty fun.

Uh oh.  You better check out the The Doghouse!! (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=4903.0) thread...
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: beveragebob on December 13, 2010, 07:16:16 AM
Here are picks of my toys. They are mostly off of Google Images being I'm at work and don;t have access to all my Cafe Pics.:
I'm using the Mazzer Mini and the Silvia in my residence. The La Marzocco GB5 is stored safely away in storage at my abode.

(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h377/scrarjg/silvia.jpg)
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h377/scrarjg/2504XLarge.jpg)
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h377/scrarjg/espresso-machines206.jpg)
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h377/scrarjg/LaMarzoccoGB5.jpg)
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h377/scrarjg/mazzermini_silver_frontresize.jpg)
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h377/scrarjg/250rh-2.jpg)
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h377/scrarjg/D500GT.jpg)
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: boulderbrewer on December 16, 2010, 04:27:20 AM
Is a electric burr grinder better than a corona mill for a small time coffee enthusiast.

I wish I could roast more than  8 oz at a time, we go through a pound in less than a week.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: beveragebob on December 22, 2010, 06:15:19 PM
Corona mill is for grinding grain for flour, I don't know how it would perform grinding coffee but, a burr grinder is "designed" to grind coffee so, I'd go that route if I were you.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: MDixon on December 28, 2010, 08:34:12 PM
The only burr grinder I have experience with is my Grindmaster which is a beast (see image earlier in thread). I do love it compared to the old Krups with a blade.
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: Slowbrew on December 28, 2010, 11:37:59 PM
I have a Krups.  It gets the job done and we got it as a wedding present 23 years ago.  If ain't broke don't fix it I guess.  I roasted 8oz. of a wet hull Ecuadorian bean this afternoon on a beautiful day in Iowa.

Paul
Title: Re: Coffee roasting
Post by: corkybstewart on January 01, 2011, 09:50:20 PM
I gave my daughter a Nesco roaster for Christmas, with the 8 pound sampler from SwetMaria's.  We also gave a friend a popcorn popper and 3 pounds of beans for her birthday, and I showed her how to do a batch with it yesterday, she was very happy I think.
This week we're drinking a nice Bolivian.  Has anybody seen any Venezuelan beans for sale lately, my source appears to have vanished.