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Title: I am declaring right now!
Post by: gsandel on June 16, 2011, 04:48:59 AM
as I sit here feeling sorry for myself for not going to NHC in San Diego, Seattle Beer News announced that NHC 2012 is in the Seattle area.  After 18 years with this hobby all alone, I have decided to announce that I am attending my first NHC in 2012.

Please join me.

Gary

Denver, CO.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: Pinski on June 16, 2011, 05:47:01 AM
No flight.  Can visit my sis. I'm in!  ;D

Steve

Portland, Oregon
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: The Professor on June 16, 2011, 06:05:14 AM
I just might try to make that one a goal myself for next year...I have never visited the Pacific Northwest.   And in all the years I've been brewing never been to a brew convention either.

Sure would be great to meet some of the nice folks on the boards!
 :)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: narvin on June 16, 2011, 07:15:49 AM
Good decision!

I'm experiencing both my first conference and my first trip to San Diego. Let me say that it's been amazing so far, and the conference hasn't even started.  The hospitality shown to us by Ale Smith, Pizza Port, and other local places has been great.  And the organizers have been awesome... thanks for all their hard work.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: phillamb168 on June 16, 2011, 07:47:15 AM
How long until it's on the east coast again? I dunno the distribution of AHA members but it seems slightly unfair to not alternate more often.

[Edit for reduced snark]
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: punatic on June 16, 2011, 07:58:38 AM
How long until it's on the east coast again? I dunno the distribution of AHA members but it seems slightly unfair to not alternate more often.

[Edit for reduced snark]

My votes:

NHC 2013 in Paris
NHC 2014 Hawaii Volcanoes National Park (I'll supply the mead)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: phillamb168 on June 16, 2011, 08:07:51 AM
How long until it's on the east coast again? I dunno the distribution of AHA members but it seems slightly unfair to not alternate more often.

[Edit for reduced snark]

My votes:

NHC 2013 in Paris
NHC 2014 Hawaii Volcanoes National Park (I'll supply the mead)


If you guys want me to help organize that for 2013, I can certainly do it, although it wouldn't necessarily be the NHC :-) Just don't come here in the Summer, there are too many tourists as it is.

I would totally fly to Hawaii despite its nearly 1,200 EUR per person flight price tag, but that's because it's Hawaii. I guess I'm just a little upset because I'd really love to participate, at least every other year... I know Seattle is really far away from San Diego, but it's still difficult - either one is 1,000 EUR for me, but then again I'm a special case and you can't make everybody happy.

I looked at the past nine NHC locations, and there is a pretty reasonable distribution, so maybe I just need to eat some breakfast and not be as cranky.

Hell I'll probably even go to the one in 2012 (Carl, you coming too?).
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: weithman5 on June 16, 2011, 12:16:44 PM
easy enough to arrange a trip to visit my wife's family in oregon, but i will need to find a reason to get the kitchen pass to go to seattle 8)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: Mark G on June 16, 2011, 12:34:26 PM
I've always like the Seattle area, and haven't been there in years. Now I have the perfect excuse to go next year.

edit: Paris and Hawaii would work too...  8)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: edward on June 16, 2011, 12:42:01 PM
Would love to go.  However, the odds of me going diminish the farther you get away from the East Coast. 

....there's always a chance.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: theDarkSide on June 16, 2011, 12:51:32 PM
365 days and counting... :D

I am planning to attend my 1st NHC in Seattle, as long as something doesn't come up to screw up my plans like every other year ( surgeries, death, job, etc ).

As you might expect, there's going to be the usual grumbling about another West Coast NHC, but it's all up to the local clubs getting together and putting a bid in.  With that said, I think there will be a big push for Philly in 2013.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: narvin on June 16, 2011, 03:18:08 PM
365 days and counting... :D

I am planning to attend my 1st NHC in Seattle, as long as something doesn't come up to screw up my plans like every other year ( surgeries, death, job, etc ).

As you might expect, there's going to be the usual grumbling about another West Coast NHC, but it's all up to the local clubs getting together and putting a bid in.  With that said, I think there will be a big push for Philly in 2013.


The conference program this year is already advertising Philly in 2013.  Hope that it's not just a tease...
(http://web17.twitpic.com/img/323108446-5e0da3f2c1d693f94b78bf47c3b40d95.4dfa2178-scaled.jpg)

Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 16, 2011, 03:27:17 PM
Philly is a go for 2013.

The local clubsdo the heavy lifting for these.   Give the credit to the PA clubs for stepping up.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: euge on June 16, 2011, 05:07:53 PM
I think it makes perfect sense to have it in Seattle. The PNW is a beer mecca. Anyway, I think the majority of ya'll couldn't handle the heat down here. ;)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: Robert on June 16, 2011, 06:11:50 PM
Gotta agree there Euge!  8)

Philly is definitely a possibility for me. Just got back from a Baltimore/Philly trip and I definitely want to go back. Would be cool if they tie it in with Philly Beer Week too.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: bbkf on June 16, 2011, 06:20:40 PM
I think it makes perfect sense to have it in Seattle. The PNW is a beer mecca. Anyway, I think the majority of ya'll couldn't handle the heat down here. ;)

i disagree....not that the PNW is a beer mecca, as it is...but that a NHC has little to do with craft beer.  Its about homebrewing.  NHC can be anywhere because you can homebrew anywhere.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: Hokerer on June 16, 2011, 07:26:52 PM
Philly is definitely a possibility for me. Just got back from a Baltimore/Philly trip and I definitely want to go back. Would be cool if they tie it in with Philly Beer Week too.

You may not want to do that tie-in considering how insanely crowded Philly gets during that week.  I just wish they'd make it a weekend or two later so that school will be out for the summer and us folks with kids would be able to go.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: denny on June 16, 2011, 11:31:13 PM
I think it makes perfect sense to have it in Seattle. The PNW is a beer mecca. Anyway, I think the majority of ya'll couldn't handle the heat down here. ;)

i disagree....not that the PNW is a beer mecca, as it is...but that a NHC has little to do with craft beer.  Its about homebrewing.  NHC can be anywhere because you can homebrew anywhere.

Well, it can't exactly be anywhere because you need to have enough "club power" to pull it off and the right facility.  Also, you'd be surprised at how many people attend because of the proximity of commercial breweries.  There are a LOT of people who came to San Diego on sat. before a Thur. conference in order to tour breweries.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 17, 2011, 12:58:52 AM
I think it makes perfect sense to have it in Seattle. The PNW is a beer mecca. Anyway, I think the majority of ya'll couldn't handle the heat down here. ;)

i disagree....not that the PNW is a beer mecca, as it is...but that a NHC has little to do with craft beer.  Its about homebrewing.  NHC can be anywhere because you can homebrew anywhere.

As Denny said, it takes some clubs with organization and motivation to do the NHC.  WA has that.  It also helps that they have a strong pool of BJCP judges to do the final round.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: punatic on June 17, 2011, 02:42:20 AM
I think it makes perfect sense to have it in Seattle. The PNW is a beer mecca. Anyway, I think the majority of ya'll couldn't handle the heat down here. ;)

i disagree....not that the PNW is a beer mecca, as it is...but that a NHC has little to do with craft beer.  Its about homebrewing.  NHC can be anywhere because you can homebrew anywhere.

Man, how can you have a NHC without all of the iced bussing trays full of microbrews to choose from at all of the breakout sessions?  Or all of the kegged microbrews at the dinner and commercial night?  Homebrew alone could not carry the load by itself at the NHCs.

Think:  All Beer - All The Time!  It is amazing!!

(that's why it takes a few days to recover once you've returned home)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: markemiley on June 20, 2011, 03:42:51 AM
Hope to see you all out there!
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: tschmidlin on June 20, 2011, 07:19:53 AM
Hope to see you all out there here!
Fixed it for you Mark. ;)

No worries about the heat euge, as long as the AC works.  We wouldn't have survived Vegas otherwise. :)

I'm one of the ones who flew in to SD early, it was a great time.  The better the destination, the earlier I'll get there and I arrived for the Seattle conference today, so . . .
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: micsager on June 20, 2011, 05:53:19 PM
I just might try to make that one a goal myself for next year...I have never visited the Pacific Northwest.   And in all the years I've been brewing never been to a brew convention either.

Sure would be great to meet some of the nice folks on the boards!
 :)

Agreed, and that's one of the main reasons I went to SD.  It really was nice to meet some of the guys that post here often.  It's amazing how friendly everyone was.  To all those I did meet:  Kudo, and see ya next in Seattle. 
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: denny on June 20, 2011, 05:56:05 PM
Nice to meet you and your wife, Mic!
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: micsager on June 20, 2011, 06:00:12 PM
Hope to see you all out there here!
Fixed it for you Mark. ;)

No worries about the heat euge, as long as the AC works.  We wouldn't have survived Vegas otherwise. :)

I'm one of the ones who flew in to SD early, it was a great time.  The better the destination, the earlier I'll get there and I arrived for the Seattle conference today, so . . .

I like the way you're thinking Tom. 
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: micsager on June 20, 2011, 08:34:39 PM
Nice to meet you and your wife, Mic!

Thanks Denny, Likewise.
 
(BTW - Kelly is not my wife.  But I do hope she wants the job........  )
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: Tim McManus on June 20, 2011, 08:54:32 PM
I think it makes perfect sense to have it in Seattle. The PNW is a beer mecca. Anyway, I think the majority of ya'll couldn't handle the heat down here. ;)

i disagree....not that the PNW is a beer mecca, as it is...but that a NHC has little to do with craft beer.  Its about homebrewing.  NHC can be anywhere because you can homebrew anywhere.

Well, it can't exactly be anywhere because you need to have enough "club power" to pull it off and the right facility.  Also, you'd be surprised at how many people attend because of the proximity of commercial breweries.  There are a LOT of people who came to San Diego on sat. before a Thur. conference in order to tour breweries.

Forgive my ignorance, but why is club power a requirement?

Does it make any sense to host the NHC in an area with a lower amount of homebrewers and use it as a catalyst to get more people in these areas excited about homebrewing?

I'd also like to see the NHC on the East Coast.  I haven't gone because of the travel, and I can't remember when it was on the East Coast last (was it in Baltimore once with the mini-GABF)?
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: denny on June 20, 2011, 09:00:29 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is club power a requirement?

Does it make any sense to host the NHC in an area with a lower amount of homebrewers and use it as a catalyst to get more people in these areas excited about homebrewing?

I'd also like to see the NHC on the East Coast.  I haven't gone because of the travel, and I can't remember when it was on the East Coast last (was it in Baltimore once with the mini-GABF)?

Club power matters because it's pretty much clubs, not the NHC, that put on the conference.  The NHC offers help and support, but the clubs provide the manpower and organization.  The AHA staff is only 4 1/2 people and there's no way they could do it without clubs.  Not only that, but in my 6 years of going to conferences, I can't recall running into anyone there who isn't already a brewer.  It might pull a few non brewers, but I don't think it would work to assume that it would bring in new people.

BTW, the conference will be in Philly in 2013.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: tschmidlin on June 20, 2011, 09:01:48 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is club power a requirement?

Does it make any sense to host the NHC in an area with a lower amount of homebrewers and use it as a catalyst to get more people in these areas excited about homebrewing?
The conference relies on the locals to actually put on the conference.  Without the local clubs doing much of the work, it just wouldn't go well.  If this were a professional conference where they can charge $900 to attend they could afford to hire professional planning staff to make sure everything goes well, but we are hobbyists and are paying out of our own pockets.  You've got to have the local hosts.

Or in other words, what Denny said.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: micsager on June 20, 2011, 09:02:07 PM
Quote

Forgive my ignorance, but why is club power a requirement?

Does it make any sense to host the NHC in an area with a lower amount of homebrewers and use it as a catalyst to get more people in these areas excited about homebrewing?

I'd also like to see the NHC on the East Coast.  I haven't gone because of the travel, and I can't remember when it was on the East Coast last (was it in Baltimore once with the mini-GABF)?

Well Tim, I'm quite the novice on the NHC, but from other national confrences that I have been involved with, the local club, association, or whatever does much of the leg work to make these happen.  From arranging pre-conference events, to pouring beer at the educational session.  I'm sure the AHA provides great support and such, but it takes many local volunteers to make it work.  Last week, all the folks "in yellow shirts" were working the *sses off.  And I sure apreciate their efforts and hope to pay them back by helping out in Seattle.  
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: denny on June 20, 2011, 09:04:25 PM
hope to pay them back by helping out in Seattle.  

Hey, Tom here's a sucker...er, volunteer for ya!  ;)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: tschmidlin on June 20, 2011, 09:09:27 PM
The AHA staff is only 4 1/2 people and there's no way they could do it without clubs.
I just want to add that as few as 4 1/2 staff is, it still appears like more than it actually is.  They all have other duties that don't include all of the details that need to go into planning a successful conference.  For example the 1/2 is Jill, the editor of Zymurgy, and I'd like her to keep doing an awesome job with that.


hope to pay them back by helping out in Seattle.  
Hey, Tom here's a sucker...er, volunteer for ya!  ;)
He's already on the list of people to abuse :)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: micsager on June 20, 2011, 09:16:21 PM
hope to pay them back by helping out in Seattle.  

Hey, Tom here's a sucker...er, volunteer for ya!  ;)

Hey Denny, you're close enough to help out as well........     LOL.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: dbeechum on June 20, 2011, 09:16:47 PM
For example the 1/2 is Jill, the editor of Zymurgy, and I'd like her to keep doing an awesome job with that.

I sometimes feel sorry that I ever saddled Jill with the "1/2" staff thing. The rest of the time I think it's funny as hell. :)

And yes, Jill is 1/2 AHA because of Zymurgy and 1/2 BA because she's the editor of New Brewer as well.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: tschmidlin on June 20, 2011, 09:17:40 PM
hope to pay them back by helping out in Seattle. 

Hey, Tom here's a sucker...er, volunteer for ya!  ;)

Hey Denny, you're close enough to help out as well........     LOL.
Don't laugh Mic, he is helping.  ;D
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: dbeechum on June 20, 2011, 09:18:31 PM
Hey Denny, you're close enough to help out as well........     LOL.

Denny should absolutely continue the tradition of GC members being dumb enough to help out with the conference. :)

One question: will the Seattle conference include a committee for "Old Hippie Services"?
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: tschmidlin on June 20, 2011, 09:49:35 PM
Hey Denny, you're close enough to help out as well........     LOL.

Denny should absolutely continue the tradition of GC members being dumb enough to help out with the conference. :)

One question: will the Seattle conference include a committee for "Old Hippie Services"?
Just for Denny we are trying to arrange to have a Converse repair guy on site.  We're also looking for incense, healing crystal, hemp clothing, and tie-dye vendors.  Water supply to showers will be turned off for the duration, and all soap in the hotel swapped out for patchouli oil spritzers.  The will also be a "medical marijuana" dispensary in the bottom of the hotel.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: bluesman on June 20, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
Hey Denny, you're close enough to help out as well........     LOL.

Denny should absolutely continue the tradition of GC members being dumb enough to help out with the conference. :)

One question: will the Seattle conference include a committee for "Old Hippie Services"?
Just for Denny we are trying to arrange to have a Converse repair guy on site.  We're also looking for incense, healing crystal, hemp clothing, and tie-dye vendors.  Water supply to showers will be turned off for the duration, and all soap in the hotel swapped out for patchouli oil spritzers.  The will also be a "medical marijuana" dispensary in the bottom of the hotel.

ROTFLMAO

Well Denny is cool...so he should get the royal hippie treatment.   8)

Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: Tim McManus on June 20, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but why is club power a requirement?

Does it make any sense to host the NHC in an area with a lower amount of homebrewers and use it as a catalyst to get more people in these areas excited about homebrewing?

I'd also like to see the NHC on the East Coast.  I haven't gone because of the travel, and I can't remember when it was on the East Coast last (was it in Baltimore once with the mini-GABF)?

Club power matters because it's pretty much clubs, not the NHC, that put on the conference.  The NHC offers help and support, but the clubs provide the manpower and organization.  The AHA staff is only 4 1/2 people and there's no way they could do it without clubs.  Not only that, but in my 6 years of going to conferences, I can't recall running into anyone there who isn't already a brewer.  It might pull a few non brewers, but I don't think it would work to assume that it would bring in new people.

BTW, the conference will be in Philly in 2013.

Thanks for the reply.

I understand the need for volunteers and clubs seem like the best resource.  Is there a bidding process or some other application process for clubs, and what or who makes the final determination for the location?

Sorry about all the questions, I just want to better understand how it all works and see what I need to do to rally support for more East Coast activities.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: dbeechum on June 20, 2011, 11:02:40 PM
Well Denny is cool...so he should get the royal hippie treatment.   8)

We can ask Wavy Gravy to attend the festival and serve as Denny's "Please Force"
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: dbeechum on June 20, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Is there a bidding process or some other application process for clubs, and what or who makes the final determination for the location?

Tim, there's a few things:

- To understand what goes into a conference - NHC Planning Guide (http://ahaclubs.homebrewersassociation.org/NHCplanningguide)

From there it's just talking with the AHA Staff, like Gary (gary@brewersassociation.org) to get the proposal ball rolling.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: Tim McManus on June 20, 2011, 11:27:05 PM
Is there a bidding process or some other application process for clubs, and what or who makes the final determination for the location?

Tim, there's a few things:

- To understand what goes into a conference - NHC Planning Guide (http://ahaclubs.homebrewersassociation.org/NHCplanningguide)

From there it's just talking with the AHA Staff, like Gary (gary@brewersassociation.org) to get the proposal ball rolling.

Awesome, thanks!  This is exactly what I was looking for!
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: denny on June 21, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
Just for Denny we are trying to arrange to have a Converse repair guy on site.  We're also looking for incense, healing crystal, hemp clothing, and tie-dye vendors.  Water supply to showers will be turned off for the duration, and all soap in the hotel swapped out for patchouli oil spritzers.  The will also be a "medical marijuana" dispensary in the bottom of the hotel.

WOW, I'll be there a week early!   :D

Mic, I've been roped into helping organize the speakers and getting one of the commemorative beers brewed.
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: denny on June 21, 2011, 03:34:22 PM
Well Denny is cool...so he should get the royal hippie treatment.   8)

We can ask Wavy Gravy to attend the festival and serve as Denny's "Please Force"

Don't take the brown acid....er, ale!  ;)
Title: Re: I am declaring right now!
Post by: punatic on June 25, 2011, 09:08:50 AM
Just for Denny we are trying to arrange to have a Converse repair guy on site.  We're also looking for incense, healing crystal, hemp clothing, and tie-dye vendors.  Water supply to showers will be turned off for the duration, and all soap in the hotel swapped out for patchouli oil spritzers.  The will also be a "medical marijuana" dispensary in the bottom of the hotel.

If that is the case, Pahoa, Hawaii was designed just for Denny!   ;D