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Title: vegetarian eats
Post by: morticaixavier on June 20, 2011, 12:07:14 pm
So there is always lots of talk about dead critters on here so I though I would start a thread for those of us who forgo the flesh.

One of the favorite meals I have ever made is

Squash blossems tempura

Tri-color soup (white bean, roasted chili and black bean each cooked on it's own and served layered)

Cilantro and Lime sorbetto

Spinach, asiago and walnut raviolli in wild mushroom ragu.

figs stuffed with marscapone and walnuts drizzled with honey and sprinkled with mint leaves.

I did that one for 12 people, maybe the biggest dinner I have personally cooked.

another was desert for dinner with chocolate and marscapone raviolli (chocolate pasta filled with marscapone, honey and walnuts) with a coffee creme englais sauce. that one was just my wife and I.

let's here some of yours!

Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jaybeerman on June 20, 2011, 12:58:09 pm
The dinner you put on sounds like it was quite the feast; nicely put together.  My wife’s entire family is vegetarian (the younger kids eat a healthy balance of meat/veggies) so a lot of the cooking I do at least has components that my wife and or her family can eat though we eat separately most of the time.  I eat a roughly 70% vegetarian diet and then supplement that with fish (even just fish sauce) or small amounts of chicken, pork and beef much less so.  There's one dish that I eat almost daily and it makes me feel immeasurably better than not having the dish.  I make a stir-fry/fried rice hybrid (don't think of american fried rice) that would be vegetarian except for that I use anchovy sauce which is helpful for muscle and brain function.  I would recommend the dish to anyone looking for a healthy staple type dish that will leave them feeling healthy and happy.  I make the dish for my wife every now and then and substitute a veg. version of the fish sauce which is made with mushrooms.

Anyway I hope being 70% vegetarian qualifies me for this thread.  ;D (I feel like a person of mixed race trying to qualify as one race or another.)  If anyone has any interest, I'll post the recipe for the stir-fry hybrid.  cheers, j
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: morticaixavier on June 20, 2011, 01:12:38 pm
The rice dish sounds tasty.

I was more hopeing for everyones favorite non-meat dishes, no need to be vegetarian yourself. (dirty secret, I use a little fish sauce in my thai curry sometimes)

Thanks for the props on that meal, it was indeed a feast.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: tschmidlin on June 20, 2011, 01:18:23 pm
I like Cuban black beans, and they are still good if you leave out the bacon.  Veggie chile is good, veggie curries, pasta dishes etc.  I make lots of vegetarian stuff just by leaving out the meat or using tofu instead.  I don't really have any go to vegetarian recipes though.

Even my veggie pot roast (which I just call "pot") is delicious. ;)

Ok, I made that up. :)
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: bluesman on June 20, 2011, 01:24:00 pm
I love vegetarian Lasagna.
Veggie wraps are great if fresh.
Homemade Veggie Soup on a cold day is awesome.
Salads...with beans and nuts are really tasty.

I have a vegetable garden that makes for some great vegetarian dishes.  :)
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: EHall on June 20, 2011, 01:46:40 pm
I've done a flush program 2x now that required me to eat vegetarian. I refuse to fast completely. But I found this 'lifestyle' to be pretty difficult to manage. Since I'm a carnivore, but do eat veges too, converting over to find where to get my protein was challenging at first. But there's more shopping involved to maintain fresh fruits/veges... it was a busier week than most just due to the change in diet, I commend those of you who do this but I'm sure things get easier as you do it more often... I did notice that I felt better than I usually do and I did have to stop drinking all alcohol too so I'm sure that had a hand in it. I wish it was easier to do, I'd do it more often... but I ain't giving up my bacon!
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jaybeerman on June 20, 2011, 01:57:17 pm
Even my veggie pot roast (which I just call "pot") is delicious. ;)

Ok, I made that up. :)

That's what I use to say too.  Then my wife started to eat this thing called "field roast."  ;D   It's a meat alternative (we don't consider tofu to be a meat alternative) that is worth eating according to her.  I think it contains only veg and grains, but it does come in roast form.  Hillarious if you ask me.  cheers, j
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: morticaixavier on June 20, 2011, 02:40:48 pm
Even my veggie pot roast (which I just call "pot") is delicious. ;)

Ok, I made that up. :)

That's what I use to say too.  Then my wife started to eat this thing called "field roast."  ;D   It's a meat alternative (we don't consider tofu to be a meat alternative) that is worth eating according to her.  I think it contains only veg and grains, but it does come in roast form.  Hillarious if you ask me.  cheers, j

Havn't tried the roast yet but the fake sausages from that company are tasty. No idea how they compare to real sausage as I'm a lifer but they are tasty.
I've done a flush program 2x now that required me to eat vegetarian. I refuse to fast completely. But I found this 'lifestyle' to be pretty difficult to manage. Since I'm a carnivore, but do eat veges too, converting over to find where to get my protein was challenging at first. But there's more shopping involved to maintain fresh fruits/veges... it was a busier week than most just due to the change in diet, I commend those of you who do this but I'm sure things get easier as you do it more often... I did notice that I felt better than I usually do and I did have to stop drinking all alcohol too so I'm sure that had a hand in it. I wish it was easier to do, I'd do it more often... but I ain't giving up my bacon!

The idea that it's hard to get your protein as a vegetarian is pretty misleading.
First most americans eat WAY more protein then one actully needs (there are exceptions, in my experience there are people who just need alot of protien). A peanut butter sandwhich for lunch, some rice and greenbeans for dinner, and maybe an egg for breakfast is plenty of protein for most people. Protien addiction can be a problem. you can get to the point where you just don't feel right without 5 or 6 ounces of pure protien a day which is WAY more than you need. As the atkins diet shows, it is not healthy to skimp on carbs. it throws your body PH all out of wack, and as we know from all the discussion of mash PH that's not a good thing.

Second, the idea used to be that you have to include the complimentary proteins together in each meal, i.e. rice and beans (which are just good together) ior potatoes and milk. It has been proven that as long as you get all the amino acids throughout the day/week the body stores what it needs and can make the protein it needs. I am living proof of that. There are amino acids in more things than we think of as 'protien' foods. grain, veggies, mushrooms all have some of the amino acids that the body uses to make protein.

however if you get into vegan or raw foods it does get a little trickier, you don't have the easy road of an egg or some cheese/milk. That being said I have noticed that the less dairy I eat the better I feel.

Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jaybeerman on June 20, 2011, 03:18:36 pm
This dish has a very addictive quality to it, it can be very invigorating.  I always use GABA brown rice (preferably Brown Basmati because it has the lowest glycemic index/load.  GABA refers to germinating the rice and therefore increasing a very helpful amino acid, "gamma aminobutyric acid."  Do a google search for GABA rice and you can find the instructions) but it's good with white jasmine too.  Regardless of the rice you end up using, it should not have any liquid; use day old, steamed or rice cooker rice.  The invigorating part comes from fresh ginger and sambal olek (fresh chili paste), which if you eat the dish often you'll find yourself increasing the amounts.  Substitute the veg as desired.  I always use chard because I like the peppery flavor.


STIRFRY / FRIED RICE HYBRID (or just non-american Fried rice)
1/4 cup high heat oil (safflower or peanut)
Minced ginger (to taste, I use around 1-2 TBS but most people like the taste of about a TSP)
Minced onion (small)
3 eggs

2-3 carrots (large, slice diagonally but 1/8th inch thick +/-)
2-3 cups - your mix of snap pea pods, squash/zucchini, string beans, mushrooms, etc.
Chard and/or bean sprouts (to taste, I use 3-4 leafs of chard and or a handful of sprouts)

2 cups GABA brown rice (that's 1-1/3 cups +/- before cooking for me)

SAUCE
1-1/2 TBS Soy Sauce (Japanese is my favorite but it doesn't really matter for this dish)
1 TBS Mirin (rice wine)
Sambal Olek (to taste, I use a heaping TBS but most people like the taste of about a TSP)
1 TBS Fish Sauce (or veg fish sauce - which is mushroom based)
1-2 TSP Sesame Oil (Hot Pepper Sesame Oil for me)

Like any stir-fry it's important to prepare all the ingredients first and have them within arm reach of your wok.  Measure oil out and set aside.  Mince ginger and onion, set aside.  Crack three eggs into a glass and set aside.  Slice carrots and separate into a bowl.  Slice the 2 cups of veggies and separate into a bowl.  Take chard and slice into strips and separate into a bowl with the bean sprouts if using - umm, don't use the German stuff ;)  Set out the liquid free rice.  Combine the soy sauce, mirin, sambal olek, fish sauce and hot pepper sesame oil and set aside.  Heat wok until it just begins to smoke.  Add oil and immediately add the ginger and onion.  In a matter of moments the ginger will become aromatic, stir a couple of times.  Beat the eggs quickly and add to the very hot oil.  Move the eggs around with your wooden spoon until they are lightly scrambled.  Add the carrots and continue to move the ingredients around in the wok.  Once the wok has regained the same sizzle that it had before adding the carrots, begin to add your mixed veg.  Don't allow the wok to cool due to adding too much veg at once.  Add the chard and or sprouts to the top of the wok ingredients.  Add the rice on top of the chard.  Slowly mix all the ingredients, while pressing the mix into the sides of the wok.  The key here is to toast the rice a bit but not to wilt the chard too much (give it a minute at least).  Add the sauce mixture and flip a few times, mixing thoroughly. Pour the ingredients out of the wok into the serving dish so the veggies aren't over cooked.  Eat with sliced green onion if you like.  Cheers, j

<edit>  skin the ginger, in this dish the ginger can be too bitter if you don't remove the skin
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: morticaixavier on June 20, 2011, 03:24:00 pm
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Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: nicneufeld on June 20, 2011, 06:13:41 pm
I make a lot of Indian food so between dals, vegetable dishes, rice, bread, potato samosas, etc., the meat can sometimes be a bit of an afterthought!

However, one of my favorite vegetable dishes (a subset of vegetarian, cause there are plenty of very tasty and unhealthy vegetarian dishes, starting with starchy fried things) is ajvar, and all the other related roasted red pepper dishes.  Just made a batch of ajvar with two eggplants, 5 large red peppers, and six jalapenos.  Now, I tend to prefer serving it with cured meats, but still on its own its good, with crackers and such like.   
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: maxieboy on June 20, 2011, 07:53:36 pm
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+1 The wok is my favorite tool in the kitchen. Will give this recipe a go soon(with the big dose of sambal olek, love it).
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: The Professor on June 20, 2011, 08:04:58 pm
yum

+1 The wok is my favorite tool in the kitchen. Will give this recipe a go soon(with the big dose of sambal olek, love it).

The wok, to me,  is absolutely indispensable. 
I cook the usual Asian dishes in mine, but use it also for Italian, Indian, Mexican, Hungarian...you name it.  If I could only have one cooking vessel in my kitchen (or cave, if it comes to that  :o)  it would be my wok
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: euge on June 20, 2011, 08:15:18 pm
I was a vegetarian for years. Still my preffered way of eating though I can't resist the siren song of pork.

Was going to post this in what's for lunch but why not here?

Purple-hulled peas with shallots and fresh tomatoes seasoned with chicken stock and cilantro. Mustard greens slow simmered and steamed jasmine rice. Mmmmm.  Good eats. And good for the colon too! ;D
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Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: morticaixavier on June 21, 2011, 01:00:35 am
Awesome euge. Swap the chik stock for some homemade veg stock and I am in.

Don't have pictures but supper tonight was homemade corn/wheat tortillas with Spicy tofu, sauted mushrooms and guac. A little shredded spinach and some habenero hot sauce. and a SN cali common to cool things down.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: phillamb168 on June 21, 2011, 03:20:15 am
Sweet Potatoe tajine:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/sweetpotatotagine_80803
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jaybeerman on June 21, 2011, 10:26:28 am
Ok, any secrets for the Squash blossom tempura?  Spinach, asiago and walnut raviolli in wild mushroom ragu; got a recipe or any tips?  The wife and I will be trying the figs stuffed with marscapone and walnuts drizzled with honey and sprinkled with mint leaves soon; I think I can figure out the recipe for that one.  :)

Nic, can you give some more info on the ajvar.  Sounds great.

Maxieboy, hope you like it.  Sambal Olek is perfection.

Professor, do you have any Hungarian recipes for us?  I have one, but it could use some work.

Euge, that looks amazing.


Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: morticaixavier on June 21, 2011, 11:26:50 am
Ok, any secrets for the Squash blossom tempura?  Spinach, asiago and walnut raviolli in wild mushroom ragu; got a recipe or any tips?  The wife and I will be trying the figs stuffed with marscapone and walnuts drizzled with honey and sprinkled with mint leaves soon; I think I can figure out the recipe for that one.  :)

Squash blossoms. Use about 20% rice flour in the batter and sparkly water (or beer!). you can also stuff them with yummy things, cheese, cheese and (non-veg option, although I have done it with the field grain italian style) sausage. go wild.

Raviolli, 100 semolia egg pasta rolled to about a 5 on a pasta roller, don't know how thing that is but fairly thin, less than a millimeter. I often do tortolloni instead of raviolli cause they are quicker to fold up. so either roll out one sheet about 18 inches long but about 1 tablespoon every two-three inches (so you get 6-8 ravs per sheet, although the size is really up to you)
filling, I like baby spinach but big spinach works two. saute onions (or shallots) and garlic in olive oil until soft, add spinach (chopped if useing adult leaves) saute until most of the moisture is gone, I press the spinach with the spatula to get as much liquid out and evaporated as possible. Add chopped walnuts and let cool. I like to chop the cooked mixture up a bit as it makes it easier to work with. Add shredded asiago or similar cheese. herbs and spices to taste. I don't usually use more than salt and pepper in this but that is up to you.

ragu, get the best selection of interesting mushrooms you can find. When I did this first I got a chef sampler from fungi perfecti or similar so it was chantrelles, forest namenkos(sp?) king oysters and a few others. but just about anything will work. morells would be yummy. porcini's are perhaps the best mushroom in the world as far as I am concerned. Maitake is also amazing. get a BIG cast iron or similarly heat resistant time of pan blazing hot on the stove (heat it dry until the air shimmers above it, whatever burner you use for your wok is right on for this) when it's hot add clarified butter (I will also sometimes use ghee from the store if I don't feel like clarifying butter) and only enough mushrooms at a time to cover the bottom of the pan in a single layer. You want to brown the mushrooms not stew them. When all the mushrooms are almost done add some shallots, salt and pepper and maybe some fresh taragon. Some white wine (or beer again maybe) and maybe a little olive oil.

If you are doing this for two you can then just toss the paste (cooked in gently boiling water and drained) into the pan and toss to coat and serve with a little extra asiago on top. if you are doing it for a crowd, unless you have an enourmouse pan and forearms like popeye, you will have to do it in batchs, a little ragu a couple of rav toss, plate, repeat.

The rav also go amazing with a brown butter and sage sauce. just add butter to hot pan until it starts to brown, drop in some chopped sage leaves and a few whole ones, add rav and fry a little to crisp up the edges, yum.

on the figs, the only thing that I do that is not immediatly obvious is that I will split a vanilla bean and add the insides to the marscapone. any left over marscapone can also be mixed with cream and sugar and turned into an awesome ice cream.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jaybeerman on June 21, 2011, 12:50:42 pm
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Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: euge on June 21, 2011, 12:57:13 pm
Squash blossoms. Indeed a classic. Will I have to plant some squash just to get the blossoms? LOL Probably...
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: tschmidlin on June 21, 2011, 03:47:58 pm
You could always make a nice vegan pahd thai like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZlih4DDNg
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: capozzoli on June 21, 2011, 06:39:46 pm
+1 on the Indian cooking. Plenty of recipes online. Try http://www.vahrehvah.com/ plenty of how to videos too.

http://www.vahrehvah.com/Gun+Powder+-Milaga+podi:4258

Nic says this guy has a funny voice, not his accent his voice. I kinda agree.
 
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: bluesman on June 21, 2011, 07:54:36 pm
I've watched this guy before. Actually you turned me on to him some time ago Cap. He does have a funny tone to his voice, almost a female quality. Anyway...I'd love to try making some gun powder spice mix. I just need to get the ingredients from my local Indian store and toast them up. Great stuff.  :)
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: nicneufeld on June 22, 2011, 06:37:02 pm
Nic says this guy has a funny voice, not his accent his voice. I kinda agree.
 

The guy is endearingly strange!  That really vicious smile of him would be a little frightening if, say, he was extremely pissed off at you.  But I love the videos, its nice to watch some of the processes...and he cooks like a real cook, not measuring every ingredient to specific levels.

Ajvar just requires fire blackened red peppers and eggplant, blended, with salt and garlic and maybe some spices.  I'm not sure of the "correct" ratios, but I like many red peppers to each eggplant, roasted until black, and then peel each, blend the flesh, and cook it down until its nice and thick, maybe with some olive oil added.  I add garlic, salt, black pepper, and dill, and crushed red pepper (last time I roasted jalapenos too, and added, so I left out the crushed red pepper).  Mine doesn't taste like the jarred kind from the E Euro store, but its still good.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jaybeerman on June 24, 2011, 11:45:30 am
Yeah the guy is interesting.  I'm with bluesman I can't wait to try the gun powder, thanks cap.  I'll have to read up on ajvar, sounds great from your description and I think I have the basic idea.  I'm betting the wife will really like it.  Thanks, j
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: euge on June 24, 2011, 12:19:20 pm
I usually buy this one but if I can make Ajvar from scratch my hard-core vegetarian friends will fall at my feet.

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Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: tschmidlin on June 24, 2011, 12:36:21 pm
You could always make a nice vegan pahd thai like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZlih4DDNg
This guy has other videos too, all veg stuff.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: phillamb168 on June 24, 2011, 01:29:04 pm
I usually buy this one but if I can make Ajvar from scratch my hard-core vegetarian friends will fall at my feet.

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C'est quoi??!?

whatever it is, it looks like it'd be hard to kiss my wife after eating it.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: bluesman on June 24, 2011, 03:31:46 pm
You could always make a nice vegan pahd thai like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZlih4DDNg
This guy has other videos too, all veg stuff.

I just checked out this link and my speakers almost flew out and hit me.  ;D

Good stuff.  :)
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jaybeerman on June 24, 2011, 05:31:30 pm
C'est quoi??!?

whatever it is, it looks like it'd be hard to kiss my wife after eating it.

read nic's comment below

Ajvar just requires fire blackened red peppers and eggplant, blended, with salt and garlic and maybe some spices.  I'm not sure of the "correct" ratios, but I like many red peppers to each eggplant, roasted until black, and then peel each, blend the flesh, and cook it down until its nice and thick, maybe with some olive oil added.  I add garlic, salt, black pepper, and dill, and crushed red pepper (last time I roasted jalapenos too, and added, so I left out the crushed red pepper).  Mine doesn't taste like the jarred kind from the E Euro store, but its still good.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: nicneufeld on June 24, 2011, 06:37:24 pm
Yikes!  Don't take my description too literally, its what I have made...but I don't have a "proper" balkan recipe, just the basic idea (blackened peppers and eggplant).

One of my favorite quick meals is ajvar with smoked cheese, sliced smoked sausage or other cured meats (you veggies didn't hear that!), cucumber, olives, pickles, etc., served with crackers.  And slivovitz.

Seriously, it starts out with the intention of being a "light" meal but I end up putting away quite a lot of it.

I've also made plenty of vegetarian (of course not vegan) pizzas.  The meat I put on pizzas now is halfway just obligatory...cause culturally, there should be some kind of meat on it....  But between mushrooms, peppers, olives, spices, and pineapple you can have a very nice pizza without contributions from our livestock friends.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: morticaixavier on June 24, 2011, 10:49:15 pm
Yikes!  Don't take my description too literally, its what I have made...but I don't have a "proper" balkan recipe, just the basic idea (blackened peppers and eggplant).

One of my favorite quick meals is ajvar with smoked cheese, sliced smoked sausage or other cured meats (you veggies didn't hear that!), cucumber, olives, pickles, etc., served with crackers.  And slivovitz.

Seriously, it starts out with the intention of being a "light" meal but I end up putting away quite a lot of it.

I've also made plenty of vegetarian (of course not vegan) pizzas.  The meat I put on pizzas now is halfway just obligatory...cause culturally, there should be some kind of meat on it....  But between mushrooms, peppers, olives, spices, and pineapple you can have a very nice pizza without contributions from our livestock friends.

love roasted eggplant, love roasted red peppers, gonna try them together.

Pizza, I tried to do a vegan pizza the other day with this vegan 'cheez' concoction that is actually good in some things... not on pizza.

My pizza will have mozz next time. Although there was a place in Portland Oregon that did a fresh veggie pesto pizza that was vegan. Used to eat that a lot. I think it just skipped the cheese in favour of tons of veggies and pesto.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: tschmidlin on June 24, 2011, 11:28:10 pm
You could always make a nice vegan pahd thai like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZlih4DDNg
This guy has other videos too, all veg stuff.

I just checked out this link and my speakers almost flew out and hit me.  ;D

Good stuff.  :)
At least one other person likes it. ;D  I think it's hilarious.  The pahd thai looks good too.  ;)
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jeffy on June 25, 2011, 08:05:35 am
You could always make a nice vegan pahd thai like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZlih4DDNg
This guy has other videos too, all veg stuff.

I just checked out this link and my speakers almost flew out and hit me.  ;D

Good stuff.  :)
At least one other person likes it. ;D  I think it's hilarious.  The pahd thai looks good too.  ;)
I liked it.  I thought it was pretty funny.
Title: Re: vegetarian eats
Post by: jaybeerman on June 25, 2011, 11:21:41 am
You could always make a nice vegan pahd thai like this:

At least one other person likes it. ;D  I think it's hilarious.  The pahd thai looks good too.  ;)

I didn't find it funny at all.  If you play the video backwards, it says to eat a cheeseburger and kill your parents while eating greasy fries made with lard.  Not funny at all.  :)


<edit>  while I find the video hillarious, my wife thinks it's the greatest video of all time.  the kid not so much, though he did smile