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Title: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 24, 2011, 02:42:11 PM
We all know that some varieties are in short supply now.  Will 2011's crop produce enough for the commercial market and leave enough on the spot market for the homebrewers?

It looks like the growers have responded with new acreage for 2011 in the varieties of hops that are used by the craft brewers and the homebrew community.  Citra, Simcoe, Centennial, etc. - all the usual suspects.  According to Matt Brynildson during his talk at the NHC, hops in the Yakima valley can produce 80% of the mature yield in the first year due to the climate and soil conditions.  This looks to be good for the prospects of making more hop forward beers.

Overall acres are down, and hops like Galena, CTZ, and Willamette have taken that hit.

Amarillo is never in these reports, as they are grown on one farm.  Matt said that there are about 700 acres of Amarillo (did not say if that was for 2010 or 2011).  He did say more of that is going overseas, as those are now becoming popular in Belgian beers.

You can read here to see the numbers.  Hope for a good harvest.

http://www.usahops.org/userfiles/file/Statistics/NASS%202011%20June%20Hop%20Acreage.pdf
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: beersk on June 24, 2011, 02:48:23 PM
They really should start selling rhizomes for all these hops on shortage so homebrewers can grow their own and the breweries still get their supply.  When!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 24, 2011, 03:12:19 PM
Some will may become available when the patents run out.  That is years from now.  These varieties were bred by private firms and those firms want to recoupe the investment .  There is not the funding for University programs these days, which in the past made the new strains public.

Amarillo may never be available, as that is under the control of one farm and they own it.

Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: scooter2374 on June 25, 2011, 04:24:38 AM
Some will may become available when the patents run out.  That is years from now.  These varieties were bred by private firms and those firms want to recoupe the investment .  There is not the funding for University programs these days, which in the past made the new strains public.

Amarillo may never be available, as that is under the control of one farm and they own it.



 I was at my LBS today and the brewmaster there essentially told me that Amarillo was "extinct" in his eyes and that any time it pops up in a recipe he subs another automatically for it. Damn shame.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: 1vertical on July 02, 2011, 04:37:22 AM
Amarillo may never be available, as that is under the control of one farm and they own it.

Sounds like a time for black camo and after dark shovel visitation.   ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: pyrite on July 04, 2011, 08:54:27 PM
Some will
Amarillo may never be available, as that is under the control of one farm and they own it.

So do they have electric fencing at these Amarillo farms, or maybe some guard dogs?  If only I was younger, and more daring!
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 05, 2011, 12:15:51 AM
Some will
Amarillo may never be available, as that is under the control of one farm and they own it.

So do they have electric fencing at these Amarillo farms, or maybe some guard dogs?  If only I was younger, and more daring!
By now you would have seen the internet stuff about how "I know a guy that knows a guy in WA that has Amarillo rhyzomes for sale.
Right from the farm!"
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: pyrite on July 05, 2011, 01:50:21 AM
I gotta get some insider connections like that. 
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: phillamb168 on July 05, 2011, 08:44:18 AM
Some will
Amarillo may never be available, as that is under the control of one farm and they own it.

So do they have electric fencing at these Amarillo farms, or maybe some guard dogs?  If only I was younger, and more daring!

Think if we hire a private eye he'll be able to figure it out?
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: tankdeer on July 06, 2011, 11:12:30 PM
Hell it's only a few hours drive to Yakima. Who's in for an Amarillo raid?  ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: phillamb168 on July 07, 2011, 09:34:12 AM
Hell it's only a few hours drive to Yakima. Who's in for an Amarillo raid?  ;)

I would totally be down for that. Mission: ImHOPsible.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: ibru on July 07, 2011, 02:48:05 PM
Yakima Chief, the people with the patent to Amarillo, are in actually in Sunnyside. You can smell them from the freeway when they are processing them.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: phillamb168 on July 07, 2011, 02:52:18 PM
Yakima Chief, the people with the patent to Amarillo, are in actually in Sunnyside. You can smell them from the freeway when they are processing them.

Seeing as you bear an uncanny resemblance to Bruce Campbell, I vote you as the most able to pull of the caper.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: 1vertical on July 07, 2011, 03:37:21 PM
It was not my intention to start a "FREE  DA AMARILLO HOP" insurgency....... :-X
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 04:22:56 PM
I would totally be down for that. Mission: ImHOPsible.
That's quite the drive for you.  ;)

Yakima Chief, the people with the patent to Amarillo, are in actually in Sunnyside. You can smell them from the freeway when they are processing them.
Well, close enough.

Seeing as you bear an uncanny resemblance to Bruce Campbell, I vote you as the most able to pull of the caper.
Lol. Go all Ash on them with your chainsaw hand.

It was not my intention to start a "FREE  DA AMARILLO HOP" insurgency....... :-X
Too late.  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 07, 2011, 04:29:52 PM
Yakima Chief, the people with the patent to Amarillo, are in actually in Sunnyside. You can smell them from the freeway when they are processing them.
I though Virgil Gamache farms has the trademark and patent on them, and are the only grower, and the hop is also registered as VGXP01.  Yakima Chief does appear to be the hop broker that they deal with when you look online.

Simcoe is a Yakima Chief/Select Botanicals hop, and it is grown at 3 farms.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 05:02:42 PM
They're trying to throw us off the scent with all this farm confusion. Those bastards.  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: tschmidlin on July 07, 2011, 05:06:30 PM
Remind me later and I'll check the hops I have at home.  They are labeled with the farms, I have simcoe and amarillo.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: ibru on July 07, 2011, 05:45:12 PM
Being Yakima Chief handles the marketing, I assumed they held the trademark. I know, assumptions can be dangerous. I believe you are correct in Virgil Gamache being the only grower.

It is Bruce Campbell's picture. He seems to enjoy good beers (along with a good Mojito). Besides, you wouldn't want my mug shot on here, it'd scare people.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: chaz on July 07, 2011, 06:46:03 PM
Simcoe is a Yakima Chief/Select Botanicals hop, and it is grown at 3 farms.

I know one farm is Loftus Ranches. I toured it during Hop Union's Hop and Brew School in 2009.

Nothing like walking through a field of Simcoe... anyone going to that this year?
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: Tim McManus on July 07, 2011, 07:24:42 PM
I never really cared for Amarillo.  To me it tastes too close to St. Joseph Baby Aspirin.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 07, 2011, 09:46:53 PM
Simcoe is a Yakima Chief/Select Botanicals hop, and it is grown at 3 farms.

I know one farm is Loftus Ranches. I toured it during Hop Union's Hop and Brew School in 2009.

Nothing like walking through a field of Simcoe... anyone going to that this year?

Loftus, Carpenter and Perrault, from the Hop Union Hop Variety Handbook. 
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: tschmidlin on July 07, 2011, 10:44:11 PM
Remind me later and I'll check the hops I have at home.  They are labeled with the farms, I have simcoe and amarillo.
Ok, I lied.  They are labeled with farm codes and some of them also have the names, but none of the Amarillo do.  The Simcoe I have are all from Perrault.  Now if we knew how Hop Union numbers the farms we'd be in business.

For what it's worth, the info sheet I have has 2 different farm codes for Amarillo, and 3 (plus FreshHops) for Simcoe.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: timberati on August 01, 2011, 12:34:38 AM
I never really cared for Amarillo.  To me it tastes too close to St. Joseph Baby Aspirin.
Interesting. I pick up a dirt taste with Amarillo. I suppose I should say "earthy".
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: chumley on August 01, 2011, 11:09:30 PM
The one hop variety I'd like to try, but am told it too will be in short supply, is Sorachi Ace.

Guess come September I will start pinging the Puterbaugh Farms website in hopes of getting a pound of some of these varieties when they get listed.
Title: Re: 2011 Hop Crop - and the Homebrewer?
Post by: tankdeer on August 03, 2011, 02:23:04 AM
The one hop variety I'd like to try, but am told it too will be in short supply, is Sorachi Ace.

Guess come September I will start pinging the Puterbaugh Farms website in hopes of getting a pound of some of these varieties when they get listed.
I got a pound of it from them a few months ago - maybe March or April. So my guess is that at least last year it wasn't in too short of a supply. BTW, it's quite nice.