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Title: Saison Recipe, please help
Post by: dano14041 on June 25, 2011, 02:38:33 AM
I am looking to brew the  McKenzie's Saison Vautour clone from the current issue of BYO.

9 lbs Pilsner malt
2 lbs Rye malt
0.5 lbs soft blond candi sugar
1.3 oz Hallertau Tradition 4% (60 min)
0.35 oz Hallertau Tradition 4% (15 min)
0.35 oz Hallertau Tradition 4% (5 min)
0.25 oz East Kent Goldings hops (15 min)
0.25 oz East Kent Goldings hops (5 min)
White Labs QLP566 (Belgian Saison II)

The estimated SRM is 4. I was wondering if I could sub 1 lb Carared for 1 lb of Pilsner without affecting the taste and characteristic of the Saison?
Title: Re: Saison Recipe, please help
Post by: narvin on June 25, 2011, 02:42:10 AM
Probably not.  If you want an orange color without affecting body or sweetness, add an ounce of Carafa Special
Title: Re: Saison Recipe, please help
Post by: brewmasternpb on June 25, 2011, 04:36:46 AM
I'm unfamilliar with that Saison, but if that's the recipe they use, I would bet they do a very long boil to get an orange color.
Title: Re: Saison Recipe, please help
Post by: majorvices on June 26, 2011, 02:14:33 PM
I'm not very familiar with cara red but if it is a type of crystal malt you might not want to add it to a saison. I like my saison as dry as possible and adding crystal malt would defeat the purpose of trying to dry the beer out. The carafa special suggestion would be your best bet to get an orange color. That's exactly what I add for one of my saison recipes to get a "sunrise orange" color.
Title: Re: Saison Recipe, please help
Post by: dano14041 on June 26, 2011, 08:05:55 PM
Thanks for the suggestions and advice!

Have a great day!
Dano
Title: Re: Saison Recipe, please help
Post by: ipscman on November 07, 2011, 05:41:04 AM
Considering this recipe myself. Two questions:
1. How did it turn out?
2. Did you consider or use the addition of Lambic Blend to make it a sour?

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Re: Saison Recipe, please help
Post by: euge on November 07, 2011, 07:26:52 AM
I get a nice orange from a 7% Vienna addition.
Title: Re: Saison Recipe, please help
Post by: firedog23 on January 29, 2012, 03:23:44 PM
I am looking to brew the  McKenzie's Saison Vautour clone from the current issue of BYO.

9 lbs Pilsner malt
2 lbs Rye malt
0.5 lbs soft blond candi sugar
1.3 oz Hallertau Tradition 4% (60 min)
0.35 oz Hallertau Tradition 4% (15 min)
0.35 oz Hallertau Tradition 4% (5 min)
0.25 oz East Kent Goldings hops (15 min)
0.25 oz East Kent Goldings hops (5 min)
White Labs QLP566 (Belgian Saison II)

The estimated SRM is 4. I was wondering if I could sub 1 lb Carared for 1 lb of Pilsner without affecting the taste and characteristic of the Saison?

How did this turn out?