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Title: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: skotrat on June 26, 2011, 05:11:34 PM
Hi All...

Because I was asked to post this recipe here it is.

Traquair house Clone
(All Grain) 11 US Gallons
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This Homebrew Recipe was added by
Skotrat on November 12, 1997 at 19:50:39:
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Brewing Method: All Grain
Yeast: Wyeast 1728 Scottish Ale
Yeast Starter: 1/2 US gallon at High Krausen
Batch Size: 11 US Gallons
Original Gravity: 1.085
Final Gravity: 1.020
Alcohol Content: 8.64 %
Total Grains: 32.79 US Pounds
Color: 12-22 (depending on carmelization)
Extract Efficiency: 75 %
Hop IBU's: 28.6
Boiling Time: 2 hours
Primary Fermentation: 10 days @ 62f
Secondary Fermentation: 10 days @ 58f
Additional Fermentation: 2 months in brite tanks @ 45f

Grain Bill:

32.48 lb. Scottish Malting GOLDEN PROMISE PALE ALE 2 ROW (99%)
.31 lb. Roast Barley (1%)

Hop Bill:

1.57 oz. N. BREWER 6.9% 45 min
1.57 oz. N. BREWER 6.9% 35 min

Mash Schedule:

Single Step Mash:

90 minutes @ 154
10 minutes @ 168

Brewers Notes:

Yeast: WYEAST Scottish Ale

1728 Scottish Ale
Rich, smokey, peaty character ideally suited for scottish style ales, smoked beers and high gravity ales. Flocculation - high; apparent attenuation - 69-73%. (55-70�F)

Notes:

Remove two gallons of first runnings and Caramelize it (boil down to about 1 pint and add back to boil). This will give the richer taste that you find in this fine beer.

Collect 15 gallons of Run-off and boil down to your 10 1/2 gallon target (the other 1/2 gallon will come from the 1/2 gallon starter of yeast slurry that you have made in advance).

Add 2-3 teaspoons of Irish Moss into the boil just because.

Traquair is the finest of all Scottish Ales. Their recipe is pretty easy and straight forward. 99% Pale Ale Malt, 1% Roasted Barley and 25-37 IBU's.

I have found this to be the common thread for this brew after reviewing about 30-40 recipes from Homebrewers that have cloned this brew.

About 1/2 of the recipes claimed that Traquair uses East Kent Goldings as the hop and the Other claim that Northern Brewer is the Hop.

I chose Northern Brewer because I am very fond of them as base hops.

I hope you like the recipe and if you brew it please let me know how it turned out and any changes that you have made.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: denny on June 26, 2011, 05:13:07 PM
Thanks, Scott!  That is one of my all time favorite recipes.  I use it as the base of my Wee Shroomy (chanterelle mushrooms added) and will be serving it at NHC next year.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on June 27, 2011, 01:48:41 AM
Thanks, Scott!  That is one of my all time favorite recipes.  I use it as the base of my Wee Shroomy (chanterelle mushrooms added) and will be serving it at NHC next year.

I'm looking forward to that one Denny.  ;)

Thanks for posting Scott.  :)
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: denny on June 27, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
Trying to think of Eugene-influenced beers for next year.  I think I'm gonna brew a tofu pale ale, too.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: gordonstrong on June 27, 2011, 04:08:53 PM
Trying to think of Eugene-influenced beers for next year.  I think I'm gonna brew a tofu pale ale, too.

You could do a smoked beer using malt smoked over burning bras and draft cards.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: denny on June 27, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
Trying to think of Eugene-influenced beers for next year.  I think I'm gonna brew a tofu pale ale, too.

You could do a smoked beer using malt smoked over burning bras and draft cards.

I was actually thinking of a different kind of smoke....;)
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: gordonstrong on June 27, 2011, 05:48:49 PM
Trying to think of Eugene-influenced beers for next year.  I think I'm gonna brew a tofu pale ale, too.

You could do a smoked beer using malt smoked over burning bras and draft cards.

I was actually thinking of a different kind of smoke....;)

Of course you were...  ;)
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: phillamb168 on June 29, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
The clone recipe in BYO is a bit different, not sure if it'd make a huge deal:

OG = 1.075; FG = 1.019; IBU = 35; SRM = 13+; ABV = 7.2%

15 lbs/6.8kg pale malt
0.25 lb/110 g roasted barley 300*L
6 AAU Kent Goldings @ 90 mins = 1.5 oz/42g @ 4.4% α-acids
5 AAU Kent Goldings @ 30 mins = 1.25 oz/35g @ 4% α-acids
Wyeast 1728 @ 2.25qt/2.25L starter
0.75 cups corn sugar for priming

Heat 19 qts water to 163 F / 73 C; crush grains; mash in.
Hold at 152 F / 67 C for 60 minutes.
Put first gallon into heavy pot and boil it hard for 30 minutes, stirring often.
Collect a further 7 gallons of wort and start the boil, which will last about 2 hours.
When you have 6.5 gallons of wort and ±90 min left in the boil, add caramelized wort and first hop addition. Add remaining hops @ 30 mins. Cool to 68 F, aerate & pitch. Primary @ 8-10 days at 65 F, transfer to secondary and condition at 50 F for two weeks. Age in bottle for 8-10 weeks.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: skotrat on June 29, 2011, 06:14:18 PM
It is only different in the respect that they have changed the hops and made it a 5 gallon recipe.

If they didn't; BYO should have given me a mention in my opinion.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: denny on June 29, 2011, 06:58:55 PM
It is only different in the respect that they have changed the hops and made it a 5 gallon recipe.

If they didn't; BYO should have given me a mention in my opinion.

I completely agree that you deserved a mention, Scott.  The boil down technique you came up with for that recipe not only makes the beer what it is, but a lot of homebrewers have adopted it for other beers.  So, I'll just say it here....THANK YOU for all you've done!
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: skotrat on June 29, 2011, 08:46:48 PM
always a bridesmaid...
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: tygo on June 30, 2011, 03:06:09 AM
I use the boil down technique for my annual wee heavy and I like it very much.  I picked it up around here somewhere. 

Just cracked one of the 2010 version the other night.  The 2011 vintage is still bulk aging. 

So, thanks for the technique!  ;)
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: phillamb168 on June 30, 2011, 09:26:27 AM
As I am a relative newb I had no idea that boil-down was your idea. Cheers! Going to try it sometime soon.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: phillamb168 on July 01, 2011, 10:22:33 AM
Skotrat, I was at an event last night and strangely enough the owner of Traquair, Lady Catherine Maxwell Stewart! Also her French exporter. Here's proof - we're drinking Jacobite ale in this one:

(http://philliplamb.com/soireemaltee_1.jpg)

I mentioned to her your method of boiling down a bit of wort to get the coloring and she said "That's a brillant idea! It still won't get you the same results as us because we barrel age, but it's a very neat trick."

And here's a youtube video I took of her explaining the brewery, etc. There's a lot of background talking because only about 20% of the people there spoke English, and at this point people were starting to get fairly well soused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llUNNvNUxjY
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: bluesman on July 01, 2011, 11:24:17 AM
Wow Phil...what an honor to get to meet Lady Catherine.

Thanks for the link. 

Great stuff.  :)
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: skotrat on July 01, 2011, 01:09:20 PM
That is amazing. I simply must get to the Castle and brewery at some point.

Interestingly enough in the early 90's it was one of the Traq brewers that lead me down the path to the boil down method as a possibility. They were also the reason that I bought some oak casks.

Traquair House Ale really is a wonderful drink.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: skotrat on July 01, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
Also on a side note...

Traq's carmelization most definitely comes from their copper boiling kettle and not from their wooden fermenters. The wooden casks definitely add some flavor but I fail to see how wood carmelizes fermenting beer
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: gordonstrong on July 01, 2011, 07:16:50 PM
Nice, Phil.  A few random thoughts: Were you wearing your kilt?  Why did they give you a ladies pint?  She's kinda looks like Cameron Diaz' mom.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: johnf on July 02, 2011, 02:27:53 AM
Also on a side note...

Traq's carmelization most definitely comes from their copper boiling kettle and not from their wooden fermenters. The wooden casks definitely add some flavor but I fail to see how wood carmelizes fermenting beer

Just to play devil's advocate, I would think vanillin would enhance caramel flavors.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: dbeechum on July 02, 2011, 04:44:25 PM
Just to play devil's advocate, I would think vanillin would enhance caramel flavors.

I thought Traquair used old barrels wouldn't yield much of much into the beer anyway. But yeah, a fresh barrel would also leech trehalose and other bits in that might enhance it.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: skotrat on July 02, 2011, 06:48:31 PM
Just to play devil's advocate, I would think vanillin would enhance caramel flavors.

I thought Traquair used old barrels wouldn't yield much of much into the beer anyway. But yeah, a fresh barrel would also leech trehalose and other bits in that might enhance it.

Exactly...
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: dbeechum on July 02, 2011, 07:09:53 PM
Had another thought. An old barrel will allow for micro-oxygenation as well, maybe then some oxidative characters, but then I would expect TH to also have some acetic character.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: brewbeard on July 02, 2011, 08:17:53 PM
Without boiling down the first runnings, does anybody know how long the wort would need to be boiled to get the same effect? My guess would probably be at least four hours.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: skotrat on July 02, 2011, 09:56:06 PM
4.5 hours or so and you start to get there...

But that makes a long day
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: Rodabod on November 01, 2015, 08:17:27 PM
Hi guys, new member here.

First of all, thanks very much to skotrat for the suggested recipe. I am currently brewing this, actually as I'm a big fan of Traquair House Ale. In my opinion it is the benchmark for the style. It seems that many brewers are complicating the style when it possibly doesn't need to be.

I visited the brewery yesterday and was given a tour, so was able to ask quite a few questions. The main points I picked up, from what I can remember, are as follows:

The original oak fermenters are around three hundred years old, and are very small. I would argue that these undoubtedly have an effect on the final flavour as they do not appear to be lined. This could be tricky to replicate!

The boil is around two hours. Hops are East Kent Goldings and appear to be added at the start of the boil, and ten minutes before flame-out.

The yeast is Nottingham. Not Edinburgh!

Strike water is 165f or 74c.

Fermentation starts at 65f (18c) and not allowed to exceed 70f (21c) as the fermentation takes off.

Starting gravity 1072, terminating at 1018.

I strongly recommend anyone visiting Scotland to go to the historic Traquair House. It's a great day out, and not far from Edinburgh.

Here's a photo of the brewery. Note the krausen!

(http://i.imgur.com/8KvwT72l.jpg)

Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 02, 2015, 12:14:11 PM
Thanks for the information Rodabod.
Title: Re: Traquair House Ale Clone - Wee Heavy
Post by: narcout on November 02, 2015, 11:09:37 PM
Yeah, that is an awesome picture.