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Title: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: darvyle on June 29, 2011, 01:22:28 PM
I'm in the market for a Mill to add to my all grain setup.  I've been reading about The Barley Crusher and Monster Mill.  Does anyone have any feelings either way?  Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: majorvices on June 29, 2011, 01:30:39 PM
I actually have one of each, the BC got me through several years until I upgraded to a bigger (and much more expensive) mill. I recommend both of them but for a budget minded person the BC is a great value and it comes ready to use out of the box.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: theDarkSide on June 29, 2011, 01:31:43 PM
I love my Barley Crusher.  I use a drill to run it and it works great, and adjusting the gap is very easy.

I've never used a Monster Mill so I can't comment on that one.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: gmac on June 29, 2011, 01:41:01 PM
I've got a 3 roller monster mill and I really like it.  But, you have to make some sort of hopper and base for the mill.  Mine works but needs improvement.  The mill itself does a very good job and is easily adjustable.  This is the only mill I've ever owned.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: mainebrewer on June 29, 2011, 02:15:10 PM
I got a Barley Crusher with 15 pound hopper about 4 years ago.
Works great, no issues.
Used it with the hand crank for about 3 years, then last year put a motor on it.
Motorizing it cut 20 minutes off my brew day and works like a charm.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: Slowbrew on June 29, 2011, 02:20:19 PM
I've had a Barley Crusher for several years.  It has more than met my needs.  I've used a drill to drive it and built a couple different milling tables while improving my design.

I've been happy with it.

Paul
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: bonjour on June 29, 2011, 02:22:55 PM
Generally a mill recommendation will follow the mill a brewer has purchased.

Both are good mills,  I own a BC.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: jeffy on June 29, 2011, 02:38:22 PM
Generally a mill recommendation will follow the mill a brewer has purchased.

Both are good mills,  I own a BC.
Good point.  I like my Schmidlin mill.  It is at least 15 years old and has never given me a problem. 
Of course, now it will....
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: Slowbrew on June 29, 2011, 02:45:51 PM
Generally a mill recommendation will follow the mill a brewer has purchased.

Both are good mills,  I own a BC.

Very true!  These questions can quickly become a religion-like discussion.  All the major mills get good reviews from their users.

Paul
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: majorvices on June 29, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
Generally a mill recommendation will follow the mill a brewer has purchased.

Both are good mills,  I own a BC.

That said, not many can attest to owning both. Given my druthers I may go MM over BC. But you can't beat BC for the price.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: denny on June 29, 2011, 03:06:58 PM
Generally a mill recommendation will follow the mill a brewer has purchased.

Both are good mills,  I own a BC.
Good point.  I like my Schmidlin mill.  It is at least 15 years old and has never given me a problem. 
Of course, now it will....

Another vote for the Schmidling.  Mine is used by 2 people and over the last 13 years has had tons of grain run through it.  It still functions perfectly.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: passlaku on June 29, 2011, 03:16:25 PM
I have a Barley Crusher and really like it.   It is ready to crush straight out of the box.  You usually have to fabricate a hopper with other mills.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: denny on June 29, 2011, 03:17:32 PM
You usually have to fabricate a hopper with other mills.

Not the Schmidling.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: glastctbrew on June 29, 2011, 04:32:37 PM
I'm using a 2 roller MM with the optional hopper.  The mill has worked flawlessly over the past 9 months and gives me a good, consistent crush.  I wouldn't hesitate to buy another if mine was destroyed somehow.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: bluesman on June 29, 2011, 04:38:48 PM
I use the JSP Maltmill and give it a big two mugs up.  :)



Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: darvyle on June 29, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
hey guys thanks for all the input, I've found a few other mills to look at because of your recommendations.  Keep'em commin
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: richardt on June 29, 2011, 05:15:24 PM
Time is money.  
I like how the BC I bought came with a 15 lb hopper and hand crank and for a very good price.  
All I needed was a 5 gallon Homer Bucket and I was good to go.  
I don't have the time or resources to construct hoppers and belt-driven motors/tables.

I used the hand crank a few times in near 100 degree heat and humidity here in FL, but quickly realized that using a corded power drill to run the rollers is a much easier way to do this task.
Plus, when you are grinding harder grains (e.g., crystal or roasted malts), the power drill works harder, not you.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: tschmidlin on June 29, 2011, 05:42:03 PM
I have a MM and love it.  I got the hopper but built my own table for it.

As others have mentioned though, everyone seems to love the mill that they have.  I have heard of a few people wearing out their Barley Crusher, but for most people they last several years at least.  I've crushed on one and it worked great, I think it is a good product, especially for the price.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: tom on June 29, 2011, 05:53:00 PM
I'm very happy with my adjustable JSP MaltMill.  I ordered a barebones version and made my own deck and use an inverted 5 gallon plastic water jug as the hopper.
http://schmidling.com/bbordpp.htm
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: darvyle on June 29, 2011, 06:26:48 PM
I'm looking to put together my own table and add a electric motor to help make things easier.  Does anyone have any pictures of their motorized setup?  The cost of the bare bone JSP MaltMill is very enticing, taking a few extra steps to make my own hopper seems like a fun project.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: tschmidlin on June 29, 2011, 06:53:41 PM
The hopper seemed like fun until I did it.  Then I realized how much it sucked.  The hopper that MM makes is way better and totally worth it.  I can't speak to the JSP hopper.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: darvyle on June 29, 2011, 07:28:31 PM
I don't understand how different hoppers are better/worse.  if they funnel their contents to where they need to go isn't that good enough?
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: jeffy on June 29, 2011, 07:33:46 PM
I'm looking to put together my own table and add a electric motor to help make things easier.  Does anyone have any pictures of their motorized setup?  The cost of the bare bone JSP MaltMill is very enticing, taking a few extra steps to make my own hopper seems like a fun project.

(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/jeffyspictures/IMG_1201.jpg?t=1302456981)

This is a photo of my JPS mill on a home made stand with a home made hopper and a 12 volt treadmill motor driving a very large pulley.  It is very slow, but works great.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: tschmidlin on June 29, 2011, 09:28:16 PM
I don't understand how different hoppers are better/worse.  if they funnel their contents to where they need to go isn't that good enough?
Yes.

Provided it doesn't spill grain through the sides or over the tops of the rollers, and you have a decent way of mounting it on the mill or the table.  My first one sucked, and I decided it wasn't worth the time or money to redesign it so I bought one.  Well worth it.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 29, 2011, 11:08:01 PM
At NHC, I looked at the large diameter tripple roller Monster Mills and had grain mill envy.  Then I thought of my 11 year old JSP basic mill, and said if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

I do like Jeff's mill stand and motor.  I use a drill.  Might be nice to do something else while crushing.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: BarleynYeast on June 29, 2011, 11:55:52 PM
I wore out my BC in about 50 10 Gal batches.  :'(  I need to take it apart and clean it every time I use it. (The knurling is worn down and the back roller doesn’t catch.) I am limping through until I can afford to get a new mill. Great hearing all the opinions here to help me decide on what to buy for my next mill.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: nateo on June 30, 2011, 12:06:26 AM
I have the MM 2 with the 1.5" rollers. It works well and the hopper and base they make for it work fine. I have a Dewalt drill with just a hand-tightened chuck, not the kind of chuck with a key, and sometimes I'll get some slipping on the driveshaft. That's just an FYI, it's in no way a knock on the mill itself. I seriously considered the MM2-2.0 but I couldn't justify the price to myself at the time, though that's the one I'd probably buy if I were to buy another one.
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: passlaku on June 30, 2011, 12:07:21 AM
I wore out my BC in about 50 10 Gal batches.  :'(  I need to take it apart and clean it every time I use it. (The knurling is worn down and the back roller doesn’t catch.) I am limping through until I can afford to get a new mill. Great hearing all the opinions here to help me decide on what to buy for my next mill.
Have you emailed the company about this situation?  It doesn't seem right and if I had known of you situation I would have reconsidered my BC purchase.  
Title: Re: what mill would you recommend?
Post by: BarleynYeast on June 30, 2011, 12:21:26 AM
I wore out my BC in about 50 10 Gal batches.  :'(  I need to take it apart and clean it every time I use it. (The knurling is worn down and the back roller doesn’t catch.) I am limping through until I can afford to get a new mill. Great hearing all the opinions here to help me decide on what to buy for my next mill.
Have you emailed the company about this situation?  It doesn't seem right and if I had known of you situation I would have reconsidered my BC purchase.  
Yes I E-Mailed the company and did quite a few fixes and still have problems, rather than go into that, here is an earlier post about the BC.
 http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=6774.0