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Title: Bright Tank
Post by: tygo on July 01, 2011, 02:09:07 AM
I've got a family picnic coming up in August and I'm planning on taking a keg of brew to it.  Since my folks place is in PA it's about a three hour car ride so I'd like to try to minimize the amount of sediment in the keg which would get stirred up in transit.

I bought a spare dip tube and I'm thinking I'll cut off a bit of it and use it in the keg I'm going to be lagering the picnic beer in then transfer it to another keg for transport and serving.

How much of the dip tube for the bright tank should I saw off?  2 inches?  More? I'm obviously trying to minimize sediment pickup in the transfer while also minimizing beer loss.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: bluesman on July 01, 2011, 02:12:49 AM
Do you have a beer/wine filter?

If not then cutting back the tube a couple of inches would be my second choice. You can also bring a second full length dip tube along with you to install in an effort to get every last drop of goodness from the bottom of that keg.  :)
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: tygo on July 01, 2011, 02:16:07 AM
Nope, no filter and no real desire to obtain one.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: bluesman on July 01, 2011, 02:18:51 AM
You can always add some gelatin as soon as you get to your destination to aid in clarifying the beer.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: narvin on July 01, 2011, 02:21:47 AM
2 inches at most.  I bend the dip tube so it goes toward the edge (and sits higher) instead of cutting it since it's reversible.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: tschmidlin on July 01, 2011, 02:51:07 AM
I would just blow off a few ounces to get the sediment right around the dip tube, then rack it to another keg for transport. It should work just fine. :)
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: tygo on July 01, 2011, 02:58:37 AM
I would just blow off a few ounces to get the sediment right around the dip tube, then rack it to another keg for transport. It should work just fine. :)

Hmm, that has the aura of common sense about it.  I'm sure that's why I didn't think of it myself  ::)
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: oscarvan on July 01, 2011, 06:03:52 AM
I have just gotten to this part.....

Had a keg that HAD to be clear for transport. After three weeks in the bucket I kegged and let it sit at cellar temp for a week, then WITHOUT MOVING IT hooked up CO2, drew the first few ounces into a clear glass, and when clear did a keg to keg, then carbonated. Came out perfect.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: denny on July 01, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
I would just blow off a few ounces to get the sediment right around the dip tube, then rack it to another keg for transport. It should work just fine. :)

This is the correct answer!  Don't mutilate your poor keg!
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: bluesman on July 01, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
I would just blow off a few ounces to get the sediment right around the dip tube, then rack it to another keg for transport. It should work just fine. :)

This is the correct answer!  Don't mutilate your poor keg!

I am tending to agree as well. Bring a second keg and some gelatin for extra insurance.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: punatic on July 01, 2011, 05:45:47 PM
I am tending to agree as well. Bring a second keg and some gelatin for extra insurance.

Beer jello shots...  hmmmm....  I like the way you think Ron!
It must be due to your proximity to Dogfish Head's brewery  ;D
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: The Professor on July 01, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
I would just blow off a few ounces to get the sediment right around the dip tube, then rack it to another keg for transport. It should work just fine. :)

This is the correct answer!  Don't mutilate your poor keg!

I agree.  It's the easiest way to deal with the sediment problem.  I used to do it that way pretty frequently.

But for the past few years now, I follow the secondary phase (yeah, I know...I still stubbornly do it that way)  with a gelatin cold crash before it goes into a keg, the resulting bright beer goes into the keg bright and  stays that way from the first pour right down to the last sad gurgle when it kicks. 
That, to me, makes the secondary and cold crash phase before going into the keg a very worthwhile bit of extra effort...especially when I know I have to take a keg somewhere or be otherwise moving it around.    The little bit of extra work and extra time may not be ideal for everyone, but it works for me. 
It also makes for very stable, conditioned, and sediment free beer to transfer to bottles too, when the need arises.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: bluesman on July 01, 2011, 08:05:29 PM
I am tending to agree as well. Bring a second keg and some gelatin for extra insurance.

Beer jello shots...  hmmmm....  I like the way you think Ron!
It must be due to your proximity to Dogfish Head's brewery  ;D

They're great for parties but hard to get out of the keg.  ;D
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: denny on July 01, 2011, 09:09:29 PM
I am tending to agree as well. Bring a second keg and some gelatin for extra insurance.

Beer jello shots...  hmmmm....  I like the way you think Ron!
It must be due to your proximity to Dogfish Head's brewery  ;D

They're great for parties but hard to get out of the keg.  ;D

Use a spoon!  ;)
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: tygo on July 02, 2011, 01:21:30 AM
I would just blow off a few ounces to get the sediment right around the dip tube, then rack it to another keg for transport. It should work just fine. :)

This is the correct answer!  Don't mutilate your poor keg!

This is probably what I'll end up doing but I do have spare dip tube that I was going to cut, so the keg would still be perfectly functioning with it's own dip tube swapped back in. 
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: jimrod on July 11, 2011, 06:52:02 AM
Instead of cutting your dip tube, attach about 4 inches of flex tubing to the end of your dip tube so it lays on the bottom and makes a U turn about 1 inch above the bottom.

When you transfer your beer you will leave 1 inch at the bottom without scattering the sediment into solution. Assuming you are using a Corny keg as a secondary, put the flex tubing on the dip tube when you first transfer the beer into your secondary keg.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: tonyp on July 11, 2011, 07:01:56 AM
You can always add some gelatin as soon as you get to your destination to aid in clarifying the beer.

if you do this, please notify anyone you think might be a vegetarian as some of them won't want to ingest anything made with it. My wife went veg a year ago so i'm just alittle more aware of stuff like this now.

Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: oscarvan on July 11, 2011, 07:44:00 PM
Tofu finings? (recovering vegetarian.....2001-2010)
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: Jimmy K on July 11, 2011, 08:23:57 PM
I would just blow off a few ounces to get the sediment right around the dip tube, then rack it to another keg for transport. It should work just fine. :)

This is the correct answer!  Don't mutilate your poor keg!

And you'll avoid explaining to the guy who would have had the last beer why he can't have it because you shortened the dip tube.
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: bluesman on July 11, 2011, 08:42:21 PM
I would just blow off a few ounces to get the sediment right around the dip tube, then rack it to another keg for transport. It should work just fine. :)

This is the correct answer!  Don't mutilate your poor keg!

And you'll avoid explaining to the guy who would have had the last beer why he can't have it because you shortened the dip tube.

Or tell him that he has to use a long straw to suck out the last pint...mmm...with a shot of yeast sediment for the chaser.  ;D

Good to see you posting Jim!
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: oscarvan on July 13, 2011, 11:07:17 PM
Or tell him that he has to use a long straw to suck out the last pint...mmm...with a shot of yeast sediment for the chaser.  ;D

Good to see you posting Jim!

Was it in "Brew like a Monk" where I read that some purists will have a shot of yeast cake next to their Trappist ale?
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: bluesman on July 14, 2011, 01:07:34 AM
Or tell him that he has to use a long straw to suck out the last pint...mmm...with a shot of yeast sediment for the chaser.  ;D

Good to see you posting Jim!

Was it in "Brew like a Monk" where I read that some purists will have a shot of yeast cake next to their Trappist ale?

I think your right about that...never tried to do it but there's a first time for everything.   ;)
Title: Re: Bright Tank
Post by: morticaixavier on July 14, 2011, 04:20:11 AM
Or tell him that he has to use a long straw to suck out the last pint...mmm...with a shot of yeast sediment for the chaser.  ;D

Good to see you posting Jim!

Was it in "Brew like a Monk" where I read that some purists will have a shot of yeast cake next to their Trappist ale?

It's also discussed in The Brewmasters table by garret oliver