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Title: Malt running low.....
Post by: oscarvan on July 06, 2011, 09:56:53 AM
I am down to my last 30 pounds of base malt.......

Where's the best deal on grain right now?

A while ago a new web-vendor was discussed with very good prices/free shipping. What was the URL again, and how did that pan out?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tygo on July 06, 2011, 10:57:06 AM
http://www.fiftypoundsack.com/

The prices include shipping.  I bought a sack shortly after they opened and was pleased with the experience.  Shipping was quick and I got what I ordered.  I was going to buy another sack a couple weeks or so but they were out of what I wanted.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: morticaixavier on July 06, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
7 Bridges is having a sale on all their organic products through the 16th of this month. 15% off.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: maxieboy on July 06, 2011, 08:22:54 PM
I am down to my last 30 pounds of base malt.......

Where's the best deal on grain right now?

A while ago a new web-vendor was discussed with very good prices/free shipping. What was the URL again, and how did that pan out?

Thanks.

Seems like I remember you having the hookup at a brewpub. Maybe it was just for MO, IDK...
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: chumley on July 06, 2011, 08:29:17 PM
30 lbs.!  I would be in complete panic mode.

I have unopened sacks of Weyerman Bohemian Pilsner, Crisp Maris Otter, and MaltEurop 2-row at the present.

I have opened sacks (with anywhere from 10-40 lbs. of malt left in them) of Global Pilsner, MaltEurop 2-row, Gambrinus Wheat, and Gleneagle Maris Otter.

Life is good.  Although it would be better with a sack of Vienna in stock.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 06, 2011, 09:00:03 PM
30 lbs.!  I would be in complete panic mode.I have unopened sacks of Weyerman Bohemian Pilsner, Crisp Maris Otter, and MaltEurop 2-row at the present.

I have opened sacks (with anywhere from 10-40 lbs. of malt left in them) of Global Pilsner, MaltEurop 2-row, Gambrinus Wheat, and Gleneagle Maris Otter.

Life is good.  Although it would be better with a sack of Vienna in stock.

 I would be too :)

Oscar...have you ordered from North Country Malt before?
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 06, 2011, 10:58:41 PM
30 lbs.!  I would be in complete panic mode.I have unopened sacks of Weyerman Bohemian Pilsner, Crisp Maris Otter, and MaltEurop 2-row at the present.

I have opened sacks (with anywhere from 10-40 lbs. of malt left in them) of Global Pilsner, MaltEurop 2-row, Gambrinus Wheat, and Gleneagle Maris Otter.

Life is good.  Although it would be better with a sack of Vienna in stock.

 I would be too :)

Oscar...have you ordered from North Country Malt before?

I thought they weren't selling to homebrewers anymore?

That being said, Brew Brothers, which some of you probably saw around NHC, apparently has really good prices (). Shipping seems decent too, although they're semi local to me (30 minute drive), so I think I'm going to check them out here soon.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 07, 2011, 12:35:47 AM

I thought they weren't selling to homebrewers anymore?


They do if you were a customer prior to the change in policy. In other words if you were "grandfathered in".
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: speed on July 07, 2011, 01:47:49 AM
i checked on their prices and i could buy from northernbrewer and pay for the shipping for less than they charged.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 04:26:13 PM

I thought they weren't selling to homebrewers anymore?


They do if you were a customer prior to the change in policy. In other words if you were "grandfathered in".
I ordered some hops from them a couple years ago. So I guess that counts. Do they have a price list anywhere? I think they have a warehouse in Vancouver, WA - right across the river. I wonder if I could go there and pick some up.

i checked on their prices and i could buy from northernbrewer and pay for the shipping for less than they charged.
Who is "they"? North Country?
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 07, 2011, 04:42:06 PM

I thought they weren't selling to homebrewers anymore?


They do if you were a customer prior to the change in policy. In other words if you were "grandfathered in".
I ordered some hops from them a couple years ago. So I guess that counts. Do they have a price list anywhere? I think they have a warehouse in Vancouver, WA - right across the river. I wonder if I could go there and pick some up.


You'll need to call them and get your customer password. You will then be able to view their pricing online.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 04:59:39 PM
Good to know. I may give that a try, I may not. Do you happen to know general price ranges? I'm curious if it's worth the trouble seeing as I can get them pretty cheap locally. (GW 2-row: $29. Best pils: $45. Weyermann pils: $39)
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: blatz on July 07, 2011, 05:23:52 PM
Good to know. I may give that a try, I may not. Do you happen to know general price ranges? I'm curious if it's worth the trouble seeing as I can get them pretty cheap locally. (GW 2-row: $29. Best pils: $45. Weyermann pils: $39)

its not worth your while - I bought Best Pils for around $34 on my last order and then paid around $25 in shipping.  But your shipping is going to be more I would assume given your locale.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 05:38:42 PM
Good to know. I may give that a try, I may not. Do you happen to know general price ranges? I'm curious if it's worth the trouble seeing as I can get them pretty cheap locally. (GW 2-row: $29. Best pils: $45. Weyermann pils: $39)

its not worth your while - I bought Best Pils for around $34 on my last order and then paid around $25 in shipping.  But your shipping is going to be more I would assume given your locale.
Thanks Blatz. $25 shipping for a single bag? Or for several? If the latter then that isn't bad, but you'r right - if they're shipping from the main warehouse then it would be more for me.

While we're on the topic, is Best that much better than Weyermann? I've heard nothing but rave reviews but haven't tried it yet. Always had good results with Weyermann, and they treated us well when we visited last year too.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: blatz on July 07, 2011, 06:06:07 PM
Good to know. I may give that a try, I may not. Do you happen to know general price ranges? I'm curious if it's worth the trouble seeing as I can get them pretty cheap locally. (GW 2-row: $29. Best pils: $45. Weyermann pils: $39)

its not worth your while - I bought Best Pils for around $34 on my last order and then paid around $25 in shipping.  But your shipping is going to be more I would assume given your locale.
Thanks Blatz. $25 shipping for a single bag? Or for several? If the latter then that isn't bad, but you'r right - if they're shipping from the main warehouse then it would be more for me.

While we're on the topic, is Best that much better than Weyermann? I've heard nothing but rave reviews but haven't tried it yet. Always had good results with Weyermann, and they treated us well when we visited last year too.

$25 per single bag.

I prefer Best to Weyermann, but I have no qualms using Weyermann.  Best just has a richness that Weyermann doesn't.  I've been digging a blend of Weyermann and Best recently in my lighter lagers - ryan6458 turned me on to that - its good stuff!
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 06:18:10 PM
Good to know. I may give that a try, I may not. Do you happen to know general price ranges? I'm curious if it's worth the trouble seeing as I can get them pretty cheap locally. (GW 2-row: $29. Best pils: $45. Weyermann pils: $39)

its not worth your while - I bought Best Pils for around $34 on my last order and then paid around $25 in shipping.  But your shipping is going to be more I would assume given your locale.
Thanks Blatz. $25 shipping for a single bag? Or for several? If the latter then that isn't bad, but you'r right - if they're shipping from the main warehouse then it would be more for me.

While we're on the topic, is Best that much better than Weyermann? I've heard nothing but rave reviews but haven't tried it yet. Always had good results with Weyermann, and they treated us well when we visited last year too.

$25 per single bag.

I prefer Best to Weyermann, but I have no qualms using Weyermann.  Best just has a richness that Weyermann doesn't.  I've been digging a blend of Weyermann and Best recently in my lighter lagers - ryan6458 turned me on to that - its good stuff!
Thank you sir. Yes, $25/bag more than I can get it for locally. I think I'll try best this time to see if it lives up to the hype. And I like the idea of a blend too.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 07, 2011, 06:47:55 PM
Good to know. I may give that a try, I may not. Do you happen to know general price ranges? I'm curious if it's worth the trouble seeing as I can get them pretty cheap locally. (GW 2-row: $29. Best pils: $45. Weyermann pils: $39)

I ordered a few sacks earlier this year from North Country and Canada Malting 2-row was $32 + $25 shipping.

Whereas Northern Brewer has Canada Malting 2-row (Pale Ale) for $37.99 + $7.99 shipping.

I think I'll be looking at NB in the future.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 07:02:31 PM
Good to know. I may give that a try, I may not. Do you happen to know general price ranges? I'm curious if it's worth the trouble seeing as I can get them pretty cheap locally. (GW 2-row: $29. Best pils: $45. Weyermann pils: $39)

I ordered a few sacks earlier this year from North Country and Canada Malting 2-row was $32 + $25 shipping.

Whereas Northern Brewer has Canada Malting 2-row (Pale Ale) for $37.99 + $7.99 shipping.

I think I'll be looking at NB in the future.
Yeah, I think I'm going to stick with going local for this.

Also, I'm pretty sure grain sacks fall outside the NB flat rate shipping.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tschmidlin on July 07, 2011, 07:05:17 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure grain sacks fall outside the NB flat rate shipping.
I thought so too, and just checked.  Their policy says it might but it is clearly labeled.  The bulk grains I checked didn't say +shipping, and with them in my cart I used the shipping calculator and it gave me $7.99 as an option.  It might change if you went all of the way through the process, but it looks like $7.99 works for at least some of the bulk malts.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 07:15:22 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure grain sacks fall outside the NB flat rate shipping.
I thought so too, and just checked.  Their policy says it might but it is clearly labeled.  The bulk grains I checked didn't say +shipping, and with them in my cart I used the shipping calculator and it gave me $7.99 as an option.  It might change if you went all of the way through the process, but it looks like $7.99 works for at least some of the bulk malts.
Funny, I just did the same thing and had the exact opposite experience. They all say "+ship", and the shipping calculator reflected that. I was going to say maybe it depends on where you live, until I saw you were just up in Redmond.  ???
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tschmidlin on July 07, 2011, 07:17:36 PM
Funny, I just did the same thing and had the exact opposite experience. They all say "+ship", and the shipping calculator reflected that. I was going to say maybe it depends on where you live, until I saw you were just up in Redmond.  ???
Maybe it is grain dependent?  I checked the Crisp Brown Malt and Canada Pale Malt.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 07:23:19 PM
Maybe it is grain dependent?  I checked the Crisp Brown Malt and Canada Pale Malt.
Every single one under Ingredients -> Grain Malts -> Grain Sacks says the same thing for me. Very strange. Maybe time for you to stock up.  ;D
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 07, 2011, 07:59:36 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure grain sacks fall outside the NB flat rate shipping.
I thought so too, and just checked.  Their policy says it might but it is clearly labeled.  The bulk grains I checked didn't say +shipping, and with them in my cart I used the shipping calculator and it gave me $7.99 as an option.  It might change if you went all of the way through the process, but it looks like $7.99 works for at least some of the bulk malts.

Yes...I checked with them and it's definitely $7.99. At least for one sack...may be more for multiple sacks.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tschmidlin on July 07, 2011, 08:03:28 PM
Maybe it is grain dependent?  I checked the Crisp Brown Malt and Canada Pale Malt.
Every single one under Ingredients -> Grain Malts -> Grain Sacks says the same thing for me. Very strange. Maybe time for you to stock up.  ;D
Yeah, I see that too.  But when I go Ingredients -> Grain Malts -> Base Malts, pick one, then pick 55lbs of it, it doesn't say +ship and doesn't calculate out that way in my cart.  Try it, see if it works for you.

Now that I've double checked, it is only the Canada Pale Malt that gives me $7.99, and I notice that isn't listed in the Grain Sacks list.

Either way, I get good enough deals locally, either from Larry's Homebrew or if a brewer orders it for me.  I plan to check out Brew Brothers next time I'm in Portland though.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tschmidlin on July 07, 2011, 08:05:35 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure grain sacks fall outside the NB flat rate shipping.
I thought so too, and just checked.  Their policy says it might but it is clearly labeled.  The bulk grains I checked didn't say +shipping, and with them in my cart I used the shipping calculator and it gave me $7.99 as an option.  It might change if you went all of the way through the process, but it looks like $7.99 works for at least some of the bulk malts.

Yes...I checked with them and it's definitely $7.99. At least for one sack...may be more for multiple sacks.
As long as I stick with Canada Pale Malt it stays at $7.99 for 1, 2, 5 or 100 sacks.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 08:08:17 PM
Yup, me too. Very strange. I wonder if you could get away with it. Sounds like they left a little loophole there.

I'm looking forward to checking out Brew Brothers myself. I usually shop at Steinbart, which has been good so far, but the prices advertised online for Brew Brothers are much better. Plus I have that 10% off coupon from the NHC.  ;D
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tschmidlin on July 07, 2011, 08:10:33 PM
Yup, me too. Very strange. I wonder if you could get away with it. Sounds like they left a little loophole there.

I'm looking forward to checking out Brew Brothers myself. I usually shop at Steinbart, which has been good so far, but the prices advertised online for Brew Brothers are much better. Plus I have that 10% off coupon from the NHC.  ;D
Lucky you! :)
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 07, 2011, 09:02:04 PM
Yup, me too. Very strange. I wonder if you could get away with it. Sounds like they left a little loophole there.
I'm looking forward to checking out Brew Brothers myself. I usually shop at Steinbart, which has been good so far, but the prices advertised online for Brew Brothers are much better. Plus I have that 10% off coupon from the NHC.  ;D

Or they are trying to earn more business. I like NB.  :)
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 07, 2011, 09:03:10 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure grain sacks fall outside the NB flat rate shipping.
I thought so too, and just checked.  Their policy says it might but it is clearly labeled.  The bulk grains I checked didn't say +shipping, and with them in my cart I used the shipping calculator and it gave me $7.99 as an option.  It might change if you went all of the way through the process, but it looks like $7.99 works for at least some of the bulk malts.

Yes...I checked with them and it's definitely $7.99. At least for one sack...may be more for multiple sacks.
As long as I stick with Canada Pale Malt it stays at $7.99 for 1, 2, 5 or 100 sacks.
Even better yet.  :)
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: dbeechum on July 07, 2011, 09:42:46 PM
I will also recommend if you have other brewers in the area, investigate asking a local craft brewer to add sacks to his order for you or even talk to one of the distributors.

Some folks I know get 2 pallets delivered to their business (a print shop) and that's how I can get my hands on Maris Otter malt for ~$0.37 / lb.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: maxieboy on July 07, 2011, 10:39:32 PM
I will also recommend if you have other brewers in the area, investigate asking a local craft brewer to add sacks to his order for you or even talk to one of the distributors.

Some folks I know get 2 pallets delivered to their business (a print shop) and that's how I can get my hands on Maris Otter malt for ~$0.37 / lb.

 :o  Nice...
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 07, 2011, 10:51:30 PM
Wow. I'm jealous Drew
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 08, 2011, 01:43:25 AM
I will also recommend if you have other brewers in the area, investigate asking a local craft brewer to add sacks to his order for you or even talk to one of the distributors.

Some folks I know get 2 pallets delivered to their business (a print shop) and that's how I can get my hands on Maris Otter malt for ~$0.37 / lb.

Great idea Drew.

Making a contact with a distributor could bring some big savings. Group purchases with you LHBC could also lead to savings.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: oscarvan on July 08, 2011, 01:05:36 PM
Thanks for all the replies. Yes, I have an "in" with a local brew pub, but it only gets me Muntons Pale..... Now I have been making IPA, American Brown and Belgian Trappist with that, and they're all decent, but I think I can notch up the quality if I start getting the more correct Ale malt for the Americans and Belgian Pilsner for the Belgians. Also have been buying the German Pilsner for my German Ale at retail, need a big bag of that too.

How does one get a hold of a distributor.....

As far as group purchases, that's a double edged sword. The LHBS is VERY supportive of the Brew Club..... to start a group purchase there would be a bit of a back stab. Quietly getting bulk grain elsewhere and going to them for the specialty grains is OK with me (and them) as I am probably one of the largest consumers in the club.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: blatz on July 08, 2011, 01:20:54 PM

As far as group purchases, that's a double edged sword. The LHBS is VERY supportive of the Brew Club..... to start a group purchase there would be a bit of a back stab. Quietly getting bulk grain elsewhere and going to them for the specialty grains is OK with me (and them) as I am probably one of the largest consumers in the club.

so why not have him organize it and let him mark it up something reasonable for his efforts?
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: dbarber on July 08, 2011, 05:56:17 PM

As far as group purchases, that's a double edged sword. The LHBS is VERY supportive of the Brew Club..... to start a group purchase there would be a bit of a back stab. Quietly getting bulk grain elsewhere and going to them for the specialty grains is OK with me (and them) as I am probably one of the largest consumers in the club.

so why not have him organize it and let him mark it up something reasonable for his efforts?

He has done this in the past.  Oscar, contact Jason and ask when he is going to do another grain buy.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: oscarvan on July 08, 2011, 06:04:41 PM
Just got off the 50poundsack web site and talked to LHBS (Josh) on phone. My LHBS prices are lower, especially with the brew club discount. I think I will get some more of the Muntons 2 row from the brew pub and get the pilsners from the LHBS.

Thanks for all the insight.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 11, 2011, 03:02:43 AM
I prefer Best to Weyermann, but I have no qualms using Weyermann.  Best just has a richness that Weyermann doesn't.  I've been digging a blend of Weyermann and Best recently in my lighter lagers - ryan6458 turned me on to that - its good stuff!
Just picked up 2 sacks of Best Pils. Hope it lives up to the hype.  ;)
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 11, 2011, 11:26:33 AM
I prefer Best to Weyermann, but I have no qualms using Weyermann.  Best just has a richness that Weyermann doesn't.  I've been digging a blend of Weyermann and Best recently in my lighter lagers - ryan6458 turned me on to that - its good stuff!
Just picked up 2 sacks of Best Pils. Hope it lives up to the hype.  ;)

Yoo're going to love it.  ;)
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 11, 2011, 03:08:50 PM
I prefer Best to Weyermann, but I have no qualms using Weyermann.  Best just has a richness that Weyermann doesn't.  I've been digging a blend of Weyermann and Best recently in my lighter lagers - ryan6458 turned me on to that - its good stuff!
Just picked up 2 sacks of Best Pils. Hope it lives up to the hype.  ;)

Yoo're going to love it.  ;)
Looking forward to using it. I need to get more propane this week, but might brew up something next weekend.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: denny on July 11, 2011, 03:44:14 PM
I just tapped a German pils made with Best pils malt.  As I was drinking one yesterday I was thinking what a great malt character it had.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tschmidlin on July 11, 2011, 03:59:53 PM
You guys have almost convinced me to try Best after my Weyermann runs out. :)
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 11, 2011, 04:01:11 PM
I just tapped a German pils made with Best pils malt.  As I was drinking one yesterday I was thinking what a great malt character it had.
Thanks Denny. I think you were one of the first people who mentioned the greatness of this malt a while back. You and Kai I believe. Now I finally get to experience it first hand.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 11, 2011, 04:02:47 PM
You guys have almost convinced me to try Best after my Weyermann runs out. :)
Almost?  ;)
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tschmidlin on July 11, 2011, 04:04:12 PM
You guys have almost convinced me to try Best after my Weyermann runs out. :)
Almost?  ;)
:)
Whether I do or not depends on how easily I can find it locally.  Oh, and before that it depends on me remembering to look for it when I need more pils. ;D
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 11, 2011, 04:10:28 PM
You guys have almost convinced me to try Best after my Weyermann runs out. :)
Almost?  ;)
:)
Whether I do or not depends on how easily I can find it locally.  Oh, and before that it depends on me remembering to look for it when I need more pils. ;D
Lol, makes perfect sense. That was the major contributing factor in me getting it. Local and good prices.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: denny on July 11, 2011, 04:39:20 PM
Tom, I think BSG carries it.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: bluesman on July 11, 2011, 04:52:53 PM
Northern Brewer carries Best Pils for $53.99 plus shipping.
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tankdeer on July 11, 2011, 05:08:48 PM
Tom, I think BSG carries it.
All I saw on their website was Weyermman and Global.

Northern Brewer carries Best Pils for $53.99 plus shipping.
I got mine at Brew Brothers for $45.76. Shipping to Redmond/Seattle area appears to be about $15
Title: Re: Malt running low.....
Post by: tschmidlin on July 11, 2011, 05:34:45 PM
Tom, I think BSG carries it.
All I saw on their website was Weyermman and Global.

Northern Brewer carries Best Pils for $53.99 plus shipping.
I got mine at Brew Brothers for $45.76. Shipping to Redmond/Seattle area appears to be about $15
I travel to Portland regularly, so if I need it next time I'm in town I'll get some.  I'm more likely to need some Maris Otter and Rauch malt though. ;D