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Title: Male hop plant
Post by: thirsty on July 19, 2011, 01:09:30 AM
I have a second year east kent goldings plant that is growing just fine, but I'm pretty sure it's a male plant. No cones, but lots of bunches of flowerish buds.

What do I do with this thing?
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: a10t2 on July 19, 2011, 01:27:43 AM
Keep it away from yer wimmin plants.
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: tschmidlin on July 19, 2011, 06:05:23 AM
I have a second year east kent goldings plant that is growing just fine, but I'm pretty sure it's a male plant. No cones, but lots of bunches of flowerish buds.

What do I do with this thing?
Do they look like this?  If so they are burrs, give them time and they will turn into cones.  You can google hop burrs for more pics.

(http://bp1.blogger.com/_fDQGV-svpJs/SH01hR41ayI/AAAAAAAAAFY/oGmmykbVfXY/s320/Hop+Burr+on+super+high+alpha+July+15,+2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: thirsty on July 19, 2011, 11:09:02 AM
They look more like small bunches of grapes. I'll try to get a pic.
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: alikocho on July 19, 2011, 12:11:16 PM
They look more like small bunches of grapes. I'll try to get a pic.

Do they look like this? That's a male.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Hop_mannelijke_bloeiwijze_Humulus_lupulus_male_plant.jpg/408px-Hop_mannelijke_bloeiwijze_Humulus_lupulus_male_plant.jpg)
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: b-hoppy on July 19, 2011, 02:02:56 PM
If it is a male, you could just let it go and see what happens.  I've read some debates on using seeded hops and none have really swayed me one way or another.  I have one male in my garden and it blooms at a point that only later ripening varieties have some seeds.  I think it's kinda cool!  Go for it!
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: thirsty on July 19, 2011, 02:08:20 PM
alikocho, yeah that's it. I am so bummed. After two years of waiting I get no cones.   :'(

At least I have some other hops.
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: morticaixavier on July 19, 2011, 02:47:39 PM
where did you get the rhyzomes? don't usually see male plants available.
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: thirsty on July 19, 2011, 03:09:54 PM
Well I ordered a normal female plant.
Got it from freshops. I emailed them a few days ago but hadn't heard back so I figured I'd ask here.
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: tschmidlin on July 19, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
Are you sure it is fully male?  Stressed plants will sometimes express both male and female characteristics with "sterile" male flowers.  If it has both kinds of flowers, then it is a female but it is not a happy plant.  Make it happy and you should have only female characteristics next year.  If it is fully male, rip it out. :-\
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: pinnah on July 19, 2011, 09:22:23 PM
I have a bisexual Zeus.  Its name is Pat.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/hermaph_Zeus.jpg)

I snip the males out...as there are not very many.

I have also had an all male Crystal.  That bastid never did get any feminine parts, so I let him have it with some Roundup.

Neither of these plants were stressed.  Both came from Freshops.  It happens.

What is a bit scary, is that I have hops in the garden coming up from seed; I also have one plant that appeared over 50m away from any other plant that I swear seems to be a cross between the male Crystal and a Chinook.

Hops are wicked prolific and have the genetic potential to take care of business themselves. :o


Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: tschmidlin on July 19, 2011, 10:31:25 PM
The Zeus with both is probably stressed, even if it's not apparent.  Unless of course, Zeus are more prone to exhibiting this, and that I don't know.  But stress can come in lots of forms, the right temp, amount of water, nutrients, soil conditions, etc.  Some varieties are probably more tolerant than others, but I can't imagine zeus would be chosen as a variety to propagate if hermaphrodites were a frequent problem.  Then again, it could be a failure of imagination. :)
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: thirsty on July 19, 2011, 11:12:58 PM
I've been growing hops without a problem for five years or so now, so I don't think it's stress. It's way to tall for me to clip the flowers so I will just get rid of it soon I guess.
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: tonyp on July 21, 2011, 03:00:02 AM
I have a bisexual Zeus.  Its name is Pat.

you sir, owe me a keyboard. that actually made me chortle!
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: stblindtiger on July 27, 2013, 01:32:25 AM
I have a Hermaphrodite Zeus plant that I got from Freshhops as well.

This is the second year, and was not stressed at all. It's growing like crazy to tell you the truth. I just noticed the seed pods today.

Not sure what I'm going to do with it????

Is this common with Zeus?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/15031_392997347466465_1557669064_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: morticaixavier on July 27, 2013, 07:48:36 PM
I have a Hermaphrodite Zeus plant that I got from Freshhops as well.

This is the second year, and was not stressed at all. It's growing like crazy to tell you the truth. I just noticed the seed pods today.

Not sure what I'm going to do with it????

Is this common with Zeus?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/15031_392997347466465_1557669064_n.jpg)

seems like maybe zeus is prone to this. Those aren't the seed pods  by the way. those are the male flowers. the seeds will grow underneath each bract in a female flower (hop cone)
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: oly on July 29, 2013, 07:42:52 PM
I've grown many different varieties and my Zeus is a hermaphrodite, none of the others.

I have had some Tett that were male, never could figure that one out; the Tetts right next to it and from the same rootstock were female.
Title: Re: Male hop plant
Post by: morticaixavier on July 29, 2013, 07:47:49 PM
I've grown many different varieties and my Zeus is a hermaphrodite, none of the others.

I have had some Tett that were male, never could figure that one out; the Tetts right next to it and from the same rootstock were female.

It's possible that your male parts zeus fertilized a couple cones on the tett which then dropped seed in the bed and viola male plants in your tett bed.