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Title: "Never Again" beers
Post by: phillamb168 on August 16, 2011, 05:02:51 AM
Sunday evening I felt pretty good after going through my bottle of 2010 Cuvee van de kaizer... That is, until 4am the next morning. I dunno whether it was due to a crappy fermentation (11% ABV) or something else, but I had the worst hangover I've ever had my entire life. Cold sweats, dry heaving, shakes, unable to lie down but feeling like I needed to pass out, and then of course the headache. Oy vey. I am never touching anything by Carolus ever again.

This also happened to me on a night when I had six bottles of Fischer. It was at an event my wife asked me to go to ("asked") that ended up being crap (she apologized to me the next day) but while I was there I soothed the suffering with those six bottles... Except the next morning I thought I was going to die.

So those are my two "never again" beers. Anybody else?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 16, 2011, 05:16:42 AM
my liver would kick both those beers in their teeth.  :)
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: akr71 on August 16, 2011, 05:43:26 AM
Fischer has never made me feel that way, of course, I've never drank 6 bottles of it either (I only see it in ~600ml swing tops here).

Infinium is on my 'Never Again' list - not because it made me feel horrible, but because I plain didn't enjoy it & certainly didn't think it was worth the $$ I paid for it.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: nicneufeld on August 16, 2011, 06:04:53 AM
This thread is a bit funny in that the Cuvee beer you mention was something like number 6 on your "this has been a perfect day because..." thread!  :D  Still, as some (longish?) fellow said, "into each life a little rain must fall".

I have a handful of beers that I just plain didn't like at all that I would not resample.  An oldish SA Triple Bock was like a maple-soy marinade, not enjoyable at all.  The only beer I recall that I had to simply pour down the drain after one sip was Hanssens Oude Kriek, which is quite definitely a never again for me.  Maybe a little too "authentic" for my tastes...I wouldn't be surprised to find out I'm just not into funky, sour beers.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: a10t2 on August 16, 2011, 06:12:49 AM
Anything by Atwater Block. I've had three of their beers and they were all contaminated.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: phillamb168 on August 16, 2011, 06:21:15 AM
This thread is a bit funny in that the Cuvee beer you mention was something like number 6 on your "this has been a perfect day because..." thread!  :D  Still, as some (longish?) fellow said, "into each life a little rain must fall".

I have a handful of beers that I just plain didn't like at all that I would not resample.  An oldish SA Triple Bock was like a maple-soy marinade, not enjoyable at all.  The only beer I recall that I had to simply pour down the drain after one sip was Hanssens Oude Kriek, which is quite definitely a never again for me.  Maybe a little too "authentic" for my tastes...I wouldn't be surprised to find out I'm just not into funky, sour beers.

Yeah, Sunday it was a great beer, Monday it was a mistake. Know what I mean?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: beersk on August 16, 2011, 07:20:33 AM
Not sure I have any never again beers.  Well, not because it made me sick, but because it's gross: Sam Adam's Cherry Wheat.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jeffy on August 16, 2011, 07:31:10 AM
I attempted to drink Dave's Cave Creek Chili beer twice.  Truly awful the first time.  A few years later pretty much the same the second time.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: Jimmy K on August 16, 2011, 07:32:09 AM
Not sure I have any never again beers.  Well, not because it made me sick, but because it's gross: Sam Adam's Cherry Wheat.

lol - I swore this off back when I thought Corona was good beer.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: Joe Sr. on August 16, 2011, 07:33:15 AM
Cherry Wheat - ewww.  I'm not even sure I tried it, so I can't say "never again" but I have most definitely refused it.

Goose Island Pepe Nero.  Never again.  Just nasty, but YMMV.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: narvin on August 16, 2011, 07:38:50 AM
Anything by Atwater Block. I've had three of their beers and they were all contaminated.

Yep, same here.

Regarding the Carolous... are you sure you didn't get food poisoning from something else?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: theDarkSide on August 16, 2011, 07:43:15 AM
Not sure I have any never again beers.  Well, not because it made me sick, but because it's gross: Sam Adam's Cherry Wheat.

lol - I swore this off back when I thought Corona was good beer.

Well it's definately not for everyone but when served on draft, the cherry is a little more subdued. 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: phillamb168 on August 16, 2011, 08:07:50 AM
Anything by Atwater Block. I've had three of their beers and they were all contaminated.

Yep, same here.

Regarding the Carolous... are you sure you didn't get food poisoning from something else?

Well, my wife and I ate the same food and she was totally fine the next day, so I'm guessing no on the food poisoning.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dublulovesbeer on August 16, 2011, 08:10:24 AM
Monk's Cafe Flemish Sour Red. I'm not into sours really but can usually stomach them, but this one is just gross.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: theDarkSide on August 16, 2011, 08:14:26 AM
Monk's Cafe Flemish Sour Red. I'm not into sours really but can usually stomach them, but this one is just gross.

Thank you...I was trying to remember this one but I guess I blocked it out.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: narvin on August 16, 2011, 08:33:49 AM
Monk's Cafe Flemish Sour Red. I'm not into sours really but can usually stomach them, but this one is just gross.

Wow.  First Gouden Carolus, now Monk's Flemish Sour... this thread has just gone completely sideways.  Gonna have to cover my ears and pretend I'm not hearing this  ;)
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: skyler on August 16, 2011, 08:44:02 AM
I have had a lot of Anker's (brewery who makes Gouden Carolus) beers, and never felt sick from them. Steel Reserve 211, however, is a different story.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: BrewingRover on August 16, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
I attempted to drink Dave's Cave Creek Chili beer twice.  Truly awful the first time.  A few years later pretty much the same the second time.
I was going to say that ;D

I may get some flack for this, but Fat Tire is something I never need to have again. Too much biscuit to it. I like lots of other New Belgium beers, but I won't buy another folly pack because of the Fat Tire.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 16, 2011, 10:21:41 AM
I'm not a big Fat Tire fan and LaFollie tastes like vomit. They have a few other very nice beers though.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jaybeerman on August 16, 2011, 10:47:34 AM
I've only sent back one beer in my life; it was after just two sips.  The funny thing is that, we were traveling and had stopped at a small cafe to eat.  I asked the waitress what they had on tap and she listed a beer I'd never heard of before, so I asked who had brewed it.  Rather than tell me the name of the brewery she just told me the brewers name; it was an old friend that I hadn't seen in a long time.  I think the beer was an american amber; it was completely, horribly, sour.  Everyone else in the bar was drinking the amber ale and raving about how great the new brewery was (their first brewery).  I cracked up and told her that just because the brewer was a friend I would not be finishing the beer and I didn't care what everyone else in the bar thought.  To be fair, I know that since then they've cleaned things up and I'm betting their american amber is good.

There was a Ft Collins brewery that has since gone out of business, I recall hating every single one of their brews.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: tschmidlin on August 16, 2011, 11:13:45 AM
Well, my wife and I ate the same food and she was totally fine the next day, so I'm guessing no on the food poisoning.
Food poisoning often takes more the 12 hours to develop.

Never again?  Hmmmm, never say never.  But I'd prefer other options over just about any American wheat beer you can name.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: Slowbrew on August 16, 2011, 11:17:58 AM
My worst beer was a Samuel Adams Cranberry Lambic.  I bought a few Holiday Beer packs back when I was getting started and needed bottles.  Each 12 pack had 2 Cranberry Lambics in it.  I forced 2 down and poured the rest out.  I've never found a lambic I enjoyed yet.

Sometimes it's just a lack of knowledge:

When we go out I will often order Boulevard Wheat because it's a decent wheat and is available pretty consistently in Central Iowa.  We go to a little hole in the wall restaurant once in awhile.  Normally we will get a bottle of wine but one night I ordered a wheat.  The owner is young kid (and I mean young, he bought the place at 18) and he brings my beer and my wife's iced tea and says he's interested in my opinion of the beer because they haven't sold much of it.  I took one sip and asked when was the last time he clean his beer lines?  He didn't know.  While we ate our meal, some friends happened to show up and sat down with us.  They kept my wife entertained while I cleaned the tap lines and faucets on his bar.  The next time we were in he comped our meal.  He said he's never sold so much beer and wanted to thank me for teaching him how to care for his taps.  

The next week another friend of mine complained that some jerk to went his favorite little joint and wrecked the beer.  The owner told him a customer had taught him to clean the beer lines.  8^)

Paul
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: euge on August 16, 2011, 11:18:14 AM
Nothing has made me sick other than the Cantillon Grand Cru I drank one night 4 years ago. Still think it messed my insides up.

For just plain bad beer Breckinridge Vanilla Porter comes to mind. Or stuff brewed at Independence Brewery in Austin. Their Convict Hill Stout is so horrible I've poured out every glass after a few sips.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: nicneufeld on August 16, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
I'll second Fat Tire as a never again purchase, but if given to me I'd drink it.  I remember it just tasting uniquely strange, maybe its the biscuit malt, but something very distinct, almost plasticky about it.  Phenols?  I do have a vivid memory of drinking 3 of the the only sixer I ever bought of it, while watching "The General" (Buster Keaton) years ago.  Pleasant memory...not a beer I would seek out again though.  But it wasn't foul, just not to my taste.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: glastctbrew on August 16, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
I tried a Summer Shandy by Leinenkugel for sh**s and giggles since the only beers available were  Blue Moon,  Summer Shandy or Harpoon IPA.  Made a heroic effort to drink it and finally my wife said, "give me that" and proceeded to get it swapped out for a Harpoon IPA (She disliked it more than I did).  I have a GREAT wife!  I will never let a sip of that past my lips again!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dannyjed on August 16, 2011, 12:43:24 PM
Last winter my wife and I were at the local brewery (Maumee Bay Brewing Co.) and she asked for one of their specialty beers called "Smoke Bomb".  Luckily, the bartender said you should try a sample of this before you buy a pint.  We both tasted it and it was flat out awful and we could barely swallow a sip - way too much smokiness.  Later I found out that they used 40% cherry smoked malt in the grist ???
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: blatz on August 16, 2011, 12:44:18 PM
Dogfish 120.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: narcout on August 16, 2011, 01:01:46 PM
I am never touching anything by Carolus ever again.

I wonder if you got a bad bottle or there wasn't something else at work.  I've had that beer on many occasions without suffering any ill effects.

They kept my wife entertained while I cleaned the tap lines and faucets on his bar.  The next time we were in he comped our meal.  He said he's never sold so much beer and wanted to thank me for teaching him how to care for his taps.

That's amazing.

Dogfish 120.


You're nuts!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: corkybstewart on August 16, 2011, 01:02:40 PM
Pretty much anything that has the word Pumpkin on the label.  Vile, nasty creations that make me want to gargle with Drano.
With one strange exception.  Diane, the brewer at a nearby brewpub, brewed a special batch of pumpkin beer one year that somehow got infected, but in a good way.  The owner wouldn't let her sell it and she didn't like sour beers so I got 1.5 cornies of sour pumpkin beer that was delicious.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: brandon on August 16, 2011, 01:20:53 PM
Pretty much anything that has the word Pumpkin on the label.  Vile, nasty creations that make me want to gargle with Drano.
With one strange exception.  Diane, the brewer at a nearby brewpub, brewed a special batch of pumpkin beer one year that somehow got infected, but in a good way.  The owner wouldn't let her sell it and she didn't like sour beers so I got 1.5 cornies of sour pumpkin beer that was delicious.

Not even Jolly Pumpkin?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 16, 2011, 01:25:45 PM
Dogfish 120.

+1 - I hate DFH 120. The 60 minute is pretty good. The 120 Minute is way over the top and way too sweet.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 16, 2011, 01:29:37 PM
Pretty much anything that has the word Pumpkin on the label.  Vile, nasty creations that make me want to gargle with Drano.
With one strange exception.  Diane, the brewer at a nearby brewpub, brewed a special batch of pumpkin beer one year that somehow got infected, but in a good way.  The owner wouldn't let her sell it and she didn't like sour beers so I got 1.5 cornies of sour pumpkin beer that was delicious.

Not even Jolly Pumpkin?

LOVE me some Jolly Pumpkin. Never had a bad one. Never had enough of what I had, either.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: James Lorden on August 16, 2011, 01:35:07 PM
Love Jolly Pumpkin, but now I open it outside since last year the stout they make ended up on my dining room ceiling!


Went to a John Harvards in or around Wayne PA a few years ago and they had a scotch ale that was made with the most repugnant peated malt you could ever imagine - and they used a lot of it.  This beer smelled and tasted like a pair of old sweaty gym socks.  It was truly vile.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: firedog23 on August 16, 2011, 01:35:49 PM
I tried a Summer Shandy by Leinenkugel for sh**s and giggles since the only beers available were  Blue Moon,  Summer Shandy or Harpoon IPA.  Made a heroic effort to drink it and finally my wife said, "give me that" and proceeded to get it swapped out for a Harpoon IPA (She disliked it more than I did).  I have a GREAT wife!  I will never let a sip of that past my lips again!

Tried this last week while in Michigan and I am not sure it is even a beer.  It was more like a beer syrup used to induce a gagging reflex.  The waitress asked us how we liked it and was shocked when the four of us sent it back and called it horrible.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: nicneufeld on August 16, 2011, 01:46:24 PM
To me shandies and radlers are not necessarily bad, but should be mixed fresh!  Premixed beer and lemonade in a bottle sounds more like a malt cooler...not something very appealing.

Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: BrewingRover on August 16, 2011, 01:53:54 PM
Tried this last week while in Michigan and I am not sure it is even a beer.  It was more like a beer syrup used to induce a gagging reflex.  The waitress asked us how we liked it and was shocked when the four of us sent it back and called it horrible.
I've never tried it, but their Berry Weiss is described as Fruity Pebbles in a glass.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dublulovesbeer on August 16, 2011, 01:58:15 PM
My worst beer was a Samuel Adams Cranberry Lambic.  I bought a few Holiday Beer packs back when I was getting started and needed bottles.  Each 12 pack had 2 Cranberry Lambics in it.  I forced 2 down and poured the rest out.  I've never found a lambic I enjoyed yet.

I made a solid Flanders stew with 2 of those last winter, I suggest that to people who want the SA pack but cannot stand those.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: corkybstewart on August 16, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
Pretty much anything that has the word Pumpkin on the label.  Vile, nasty creations that make me want to gargle with Drano.
With one strange exception.  Diane, the brewer at a nearby brewpub, brewed a special batch of pumpkin beer one year that somehow got infected, but in a good way.  The owner wouldn't let her sell it and she didn't like sour beers so I got 1.5 cornies of sour pumpkin beer that was delicious.

Not even Jolly Pumpkin?

LOVE me some Jolly Pumpkin. Never had a bad one. Never had enough of what I had, either.
You got me on that one.  I do love the JP stuff but I can't get it anywhere around here.  My daughter gave me a split case of La Roja and Bam Wheat a few years ago when she lived in Albuquerque but I haven't had one in a long time.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on August 16, 2011, 02:10:22 PM
The only beer I've had that i would describe as truly vile is Brau Brothers Scotch Ale. Had it at a tasting event a few summers ago. It was the only beer I had to spit out that day. They must have used 50% peated malt in the stuff. It tasted like an ashtray!

There are certainly beers I don't care for, but not many for which I would say "never again." I generally avoid fruit beers or beers with other flavor additives like herbs and spices, the exception being certain Belgian styles.

Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: WDE97 on August 16, 2011, 03:47:32 PM
The only beer I've had that i would describe as truly vile is Brau Brothers Scotch Ale. Had it at a tasting event a few summers ago. It was the only beer I had to spit out that day. They must have used 50% peated malt in the stuff. It tasted like an ashtray!

There are certainly beers I don't care for, but not many for which I would say "never again." I generally avoid fruit beers or beers with other flavor additives like herbs and spices, the exception being certain Belgian styles.



Haha!! Sounds like my first attempt at a smoked stout.  At the time, I didn't know anything about peat smoked malt and probably used 40%.  Five years later I still have most of it sitting in bottles.  I still can't bring myself to pour it out, but I can't bring myself to drink it either.  If I remember in Gordon's new book, he mentions something about peat smoked malt and the flavor of "open grave" or something like that.  Pretty accurate description, and one beer I won't ever drink or brew again.

So that brings me to a question.  I don't want to hijack the thread, but everyone is listing commercial brews. What about home brews that you would never brew again for the same reasons?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: loopy on August 16, 2011, 04:02:14 PM
A beer called mephistopheles stout, out of Avery I think. 

It tasted like a mix of 4 day old coffe and used motor oil and 16% abv.  It was the most fowl thing I have every ingested.  If there was a such a thing as a beer monster.  A big bad burly monster made of beer, and one morning he got up and took a dump, I believe it would taste like that. 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: rabid_dingo on August 16, 2011, 04:08:21 PM
Mine is Boon Geuze. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/47/153 (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/47/153)
I should have poured it out or sent it back but GAWD was it horrible. It tasted
like burnt rubber. Or if you have ever smelled the small puff of smoke produced
when landing gear touches the runway the first time right after a landing, that was
the taste. Ugh.



Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: alikocho on August 16, 2011, 04:12:45 PM
Saranac Maple Porter. That was awful.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dirk_mclargehuge on August 16, 2011, 04:24:12 PM
DogFish Head 120 IPA.  Nastiest beer ever made. Why do people like it?  ???
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: adruma on August 16, 2011, 04:39:43 PM
Nothing has made me sick other than the Cantillon Grand Cru I drank one night 4 years ago. Still think it messed my insides up.

For just plain bad beer Breckinridge Vanilla Porter comes to mind. Or stuff brewed at Independence Brewery in Austin. Their Convict Hill Stout is so horrible I've poured out every glass after a few sips.

I agree on the Vanilla Porter - I'm almost positive that's the one I had. I tried and tried but couldn't drink the entire pint.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dirk_mclargehuge on August 16, 2011, 05:04:01 PM
Nothing has made me sick other than the Cantillon Grand Cru I drank one night 4 years ago. Still think it messed my insides up.

For just plain bad beer Breckinridge Vanilla Porter comes to mind. Or stuff brewed at Independence Brewery in Austin. Their Convict Hill Stout is so horrible I've poured out every glass after a few sips.

I agree on the Vanilla Porter - I'm almost positive that's the one I had. I tried and tried but couldn't drink the entire pint.
I had it on tap in Denver pub back in 2006, I think.  It was ambrosia!  Smooth silky and with hints of vanilla.  I have had it on tap since, and it is nothing like the wonderful beer I had in Denver.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jeffy on August 16, 2011, 06:03:17 PM
Nothing has made me sick other than the Cantillon Grand Cru I drank one night 4 years ago. Still think it messed my insides up.
This reminds me of the time I went into Monk's Pub in Philly and found that they had Cantillon on tap.  The bartender obviously had had this beer returned before more than once, because she had to shout over the crowd, "it comes in a glass this size (holding up a .3 liter flute), it costs 8 dollars and it's really sour!" I still ordered it, but her reaction was funny. 
All sour beer messes with your guts.  It rarely stops me from enjoying them.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jamminbrew on August 16, 2011, 06:10:07 PM
I just tried Samuel Smith's Nut Brown ale...  Yuck.  I like Sam Smith, but not this one. Couldn't even finish it.  One of my buddies brewed an elderberry beer recently... Again, yuck.  I did finish that one, only to be polite
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dhacker on August 16, 2011, 06:17:00 PM
Magic Hat Wacko Beet Beer.

I have yet to have ANYTHING Magic Hat I thought was worthy . . including their Flagship #9.

I fully expect to see them spin Rutabaga Brew as the next ambrosial elixir . . .  :-\ 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: bluesman on August 16, 2011, 06:30:12 PM
I'm not a fan of Magic Hat #9 either. I like Circus Boy.

I think Budweiser falls into the "never again" category but that goes without saying here at the AHA.  ;)
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on August 16, 2011, 06:37:41 PM
I'll throw the Vanilla Porter under the bus too.  I thought it was one of the most unbalanced beers I've ever tasted.  It's like they dumped a bottle of vanilla extract in every 12 oz bottle.  Blech...
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dhacker on August 16, 2011, 06:44:43 PM
. . . I like Circus Boy. . .

I've not had their Circus Boy. Perhaps there is a residue of hope.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: aviking427 on August 16, 2011, 06:46:22 PM
The entire Butter Nuts canned beer lineup. I bought the mixed 12 pack because i wanted to try some canned "craft beer". I couldn't finish a single one of them because they were all completely awful. As a matter of fact, I will probably steer clear of any beer in a can again. But it is nice to think that if someone can make crap beer and be successful, maybe one day i can make the beer I love and be successful. Thank you crap beer makers, you give me hope!!!!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: a10t2 on August 16, 2011, 06:51:30 PM
As a matter of fact, I will probably steer clear of any beer in a can again.

But by that logic, if you had a bad beer on tap, you would never drink draft beer again.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: chezteth on August 16, 2011, 07:46:57 PM
I attempted to drink Dave's Cave Creek Chili beer twice.  Truly awful the first time.  A few years later pretty much the same the second time.

I will agree with this one.  I don't mind hot peppers in beer but it must have a good malt backbone to balance out the spiciness of the peppers.  Dave's Cave Creek Chili beer does not fit this criteria.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dak0415 on August 16, 2011, 07:53:37 PM
Any beer with "Chipotle" in the ingredients
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: chezteth on August 16, 2011, 07:53:52 PM
hmmm, also leinenkugles berry weiss or anything from Delafield Brewhaus.  My wife & I went to Delafield Brewhaus a couple of years ago and everything had a sweet taste to it.  Not sure if it was underattenuated or if they back sweetened it.  The best thing was a blue raspberry malt beverage.  :(
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: bo on August 16, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
Anything with fruit in it. I've tried several and the first one of 2 sips are good and then I'm tired of it.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jaybeerman on August 16, 2011, 09:01:07 PM
I challenge everyone who has posted in this thread to travel to western Colorado and try the brews at "Rockslide Brewery."  I can guarantee you that it will top your "never again" list.  The funny part is that for decade(s) it was our only brewpub.  Now locals think that beer is supposed to taste like that.  Thank god for homebrew and one newer brewpub that makes very solid though non adventurous brews. 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: EHall on August 16, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
any beer with chile in it.
Hop Stupid - just f'n nasty
Delirium
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 17, 2011, 03:21:05 AM
Delirium

Delirium Tremens or Nocturnum are nice beers if you can ever get them fresh. They do have a certain "funkiness" to them that may be challenging to some palettes, but quite nice once you develop a taste for them.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: BrewingRover on August 17, 2011, 04:19:21 AM
I challenge everyone who has posted in this thread to travel to western Colorado and try the brews at "Rockslide Brewery."  I can guarantee you that it will top your "never again" list.  The funny part is that for decade(s) it was our only brewpub.  Now locals think that beer is supposed to taste like that.  Thank god for homebrew and one newer brewpub that makes very solid though non adventurous brews. 
Well at least the drive from Denver will be pretty. That stretch of I-70 has to be the most scenic piece of Interstate system.

There's a new Chicago brewery that I've had exactly one beer from. It was an IPA that was overly sweet and astringent to the point of undrinkable. I want to support new breweries but I'm hesitant to try anything else.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: narvin on August 17, 2011, 05:01:28 AM
Southern Tier Creme Brulee Stout!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: nicneufeld on August 17, 2011, 05:30:16 AM
Well at least the drive from Denver will be pretty. That stretch of I-70 has to be the most scenic piece of Interstate system.

It is beautiful in a traditional way (certainly better than going from Denver the OTHER way on I70!  :D), although keep going into Utah and hang south and things get pretty amazing there too! 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: phillamb168 on August 17, 2011, 05:30:57 AM
I challenge everyone who has posted in this thread to travel to western Colorado and try the brews at "Rockslide Brewery."  I can guarantee you that it will top your "never again" list.  The funny part is that for decade(s) it was our only brewpub.  Now locals think that beer is supposed to taste like that.  Thank god for homebrew and one newer brewpub that makes very solid though non adventurous brews. 
Well at least the drive from Denver will be pretty. That stretch of I-70 has to be the most scenic piece of Interstate system.

There's a new Chicago brewery that I've had exactly one beer from. It was an IPA that was overly sweet and astringent to the point of undrinkable. I want to support new breweries but I'm hesitant to try anything else.

Not Half Acre, is it?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: dbarber on August 17, 2011, 06:17:39 AM
It's a toss up between SA triple bock, tastes too much like soy sauce, and SA cranberry lambic.  The lambic is one of the only beers that I've poured out after 2 sips. 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 17, 2011, 06:24:26 AM
I really, really tried to enjoy that tripel bock... alas, to no avail. Nasty stuff. Cool bottle though!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: gmac on August 17, 2011, 06:52:40 AM
Years ago my brother in law and I bought a bunch of SA triple bock. We ended up splitting a bottle each year at Christmas as penance for our sins of the past year. After 4 or 5 years we ran out but it still tasted just as bad.  I've been fearful of high gravity beer ever since I had that one. 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: nicneufeld on August 17, 2011, 07:20:15 AM
I will say it (SA triple bock) was somewhat groundbreaking, if hard to enjoy!  But in the realm of over-hyped high gravity beers I at least thought the DFH ones I tried actually tasted like beer.  Well, not the 120min...that tasted like sweetened hop syrup...but the WW Stout was a good beer as I recall, oh those many years ago.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 17, 2011, 07:44:50 AM

Dogfish 120.


You're nuts!

Then I am, too.  I just can't stand that stuff.  I wish DFH would make more solid beers and fewer experiments.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 17, 2011, 08:12:41 AM
Yeah but your nuts for an entirely different reason.  :P
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 17, 2011, 08:14:53 AM
Yeah but your nuts for an entirely different reason.  :P

Oh, yeah, right..... ;)
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: beer_crafter on August 17, 2011, 08:18:11 AM
So far we have a couple Cantillons, Boone Gueuze, Hop Stoopid, Delirium, and Gouden Carolus Cuvee van De Kaiser.  Sounds like my fridge.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: gigatropolis on August 17, 2011, 08:20:54 AM
Has anyone  mentioned that Miller 64 stuff? I did a half marathon last year and they were giving it out free at the end. Had one swallow and couldn't take another even after 13 mile jog in the sun. It was corn syrup with a slight indistinguishably aftertaste of beer.

  Never ever ever again
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 17, 2011, 08:22:15 AM
So far we have a couple Cantillons, Boone Gueuze, Hop Stoopid, Delirium, and Gouden Carolus Cuvee van De Kaiser.  Sounds like my fridge.


I kinda look at it as proof of why there are so many different beer styles.  Not everyone likes everything, but there's something for everybody.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: BrewingRover on August 17, 2011, 08:28:27 AM
I challenge everyone who has posted in this thread to travel to western Colorado and try the brews at "Rockslide Brewery."  I can guarantee you that it will top your "never again" list.  The funny part is that for decade(s) it was our only brewpub.  Now locals think that beer is supposed to taste like that.  Thank god for homebrew and one newer brewpub that makes very solid though non adventurous brews. 
Well at least the drive from Denver will be pretty. That stretch of I-70 has to be the most scenic piece of Interstate system.

There's a new Chicago brewery that I've had exactly one beer from. It was an IPA that was overly sweet and astringent to the point of undrinkable. I want to support new breweries but I'm hesitant to try anything else.

Not Half Acre, is it?

Argus. I really want to like them, their brewery is in the old Schlitz stable in Pullman (which dates from the 1900s) and I go past it twice a day on the train. Maybe I just got a bad bottle.

All the Half Acre beers I've had have been good. Their Double Daisy Cutter is excellent.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: ckpash88 on August 17, 2011, 08:53:44 AM

"I may get some flack for this, but Fat Tire is something I never need to have again. Too much biscuit to it. I like lots of other New Belgium beers, but I won't buy another folly pack because of the Fat Tire."


I think drinking this beer tastes like sucking toe fungus off of a frito lays monster.

And I can't do any porters or stouts. I give them a go every once in a while but can't do it.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 17, 2011, 09:02:17 AM

And I can't do any porters or stouts. I give them a go every once in a while but can't do it.

Now that is weak.  ;)
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: pinnah on August 17, 2011, 09:41:13 AM
Yesh, I feel sorry for celiac folks, but dang...never again...the New Planet Gluten Free Raspberry Ale.
Yuck.  I sure loves me some gluten. :-[

I will second the Never Again at Rockslide in WColorado.  Garbage.  Shame, bc they have a cool location.

Man, we really are spoiled with so many good, decent, not too bad, and exceptional beers in so many styles.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: andyi on August 17, 2011, 09:42:53 AM
Van Merritt - Wisconsin.

crazy colon blow!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: ckpash88 on August 17, 2011, 09:44:18 AM
It's the texture they are too thick and the flavors I can't do. These styles in my opinion are to the extreme of things. And bc they are knarly people "need" to like him. It's like buying a hummer bc it's the biggest or buying a desert eagle bc it's the biggest handgun.

Just bc people say that I should them doesn't mean I will.

Opinions are like buttholes everyone has one and they all stink.

Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of sh**. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 17, 2011, 09:51:27 AM
It's the texture they are too thick and the flavors I can't do. These styles in my opinion are to the extreme of things. And bc they are knarly people "need" to like him. It's like buying a hummer bc it's the biggest or buying a desert eagle bc it's the biggest handgun.

Just bc people say that I should them doesn't mean I will.

Opinions are like buttholes everyone has one and they all stink.

Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of sh**. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.

First off, let me just say that I respect the fact that you don't liek stouts/porters - I admit that more often than not I am not in the mood for one. I never brew them anymore.

That said, do you like coffee? If you don't like coffee then I understand. If you do like cofffee then I don't understand why you would "never" like a stout or porter. Similar types of flavors.

Also, not all dark beers are "thick". It's just roasted grain in most cases. Guiness draught is one of the lightest beers (that is not actually a "Lite" beer) out there.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: bonjour on August 17, 2011, 10:00:11 AM
I think drinking this beer tastes like sucking toe fungus off of a frito lays monster.
I'm sorry,  I'm not familiar with that flavor, can you describe it to me?  Just can't seem to find a "frito lays monster" around here.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: ckpash88 on August 17, 2011, 10:09:14 AM
Well taste like a cross of eating fritos and taking a big whiff of old running shoes.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: theDarkSide on August 17, 2011, 10:09:25 AM
I think drinking this beer tastes like sucking toe fungus off of a frito lays monster.
I'm sorry,  I'm not familiar with that flavor, can you describe it to me?  Just can't seem to find a "frito lays monster" around here.

Mmmmm....Fritos.

My first homebrew...man was that God-Awful!  :P
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 17, 2011, 10:19:04 AM
Well taste like a cross of eating fritos and taking a big whiff of old running shoes.

You didn't answer my question above - do you like coffee?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: morticaixavier on August 17, 2011, 10:31:28 AM
I have to second (or third or fourth) the Sam Adams triple bock It wasn't BAD perse but strage and soy saucy/maple syrupy course the one I had was 6 years old so who's to say what it was like a little fresher.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: nicneufeld on August 17, 2011, 10:38:28 AM
I think drinking this beer tastes like sucking toe fungus off of a frito lays monster.
I'm sorry,  I'm not familiar with that flavor, can you describe it to me?  Just can't seem to find a "frito lays monster" around here.

Oh I thought that was included in the new BJCP guidelines!  :D

CKpash, if you want to tinker with darker beers, you might try schwarzbier, as they have a lighter lagery profile with a debittered black malt giving colour and only a mildly roasty flavor.  If you think dry stout and porter are "extremes" ie Hummers and Desert Eagles, you may have a mistaken impression of them, as many people do.  They are often low gravity session beers, and only those uninformed chumps that think that Guinness is a REALLY STRONG BEER (and thus brag about it) drink them out of a desire to seem macho!   ;D  But taste is taste, so don't worry about preferring non-roasty beers.  I know stout drinkers that hate IPAs.  De gustibus non est disputandum!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 17, 2011, 10:39:27 AM
I have to second (or third or fourth) the Sam Adams triple bock It wasn't BAD perse but strage and soy saucy/maple syrupy course the one I had was 6 years old so who's to say what it was like a little fresher.

Well, when it came out, everybody was saying that it just needed some age to get rid of that flavor....;)
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: morticaixavier on August 17, 2011, 10:45:20 AM
I have to second (or third or fourth) the Sam Adams triple bock It wasn't BAD perse but strage and soy saucy/maple syrupy course the one I had was 6 years old so who's to say what it was like a little fresher.

Well, when it came out, everybody was saying that it just needed some age to get rid of that flavor....;)

I guess that explains why I found a 6 year old bottle in a liqour store in boston.  ;D
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: ckpash88 on August 17, 2011, 10:56:41 AM
Oh I love coffee that's what I like about them but in general I just can't drink them. I try them as little samples but I cannot drink more then 4 ounces if them. The macho comment is true I ran into a buddy from high school at a bar and I told him that I homebrew and he said that you can't say you know beer I you don't like guineas then he told me the best beer is bud light so he made himself out to be a meat head. It's like those dudes he want to look sophisticated and drink heinekin lol

There is never a bad beer just ones that you don't like.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: passlaku on August 17, 2011, 11:43:23 AM
I'll add Sam Adam's Cherry Wheat, the Imperial Wit (which was syrupy and sweet), and their summer wheat that came in their mix 6 pack. 

I also won't bother with anything in a green bottle (Heineken/Stella) or clear, as well.  Heineken in a can, though, rocks. 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: corkybstewart on August 17, 2011, 11:57:44 AM
I also won't bother with anything in a green bottle (Heineken/Stella) or clear, as well.  Heineken in a can, though, rocks.  
Spaten Oktoberfest comes in a green bottle, and it is delicious if you buy the sealed 12 packs.  I've never had a skunked one.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: narvin on August 17, 2011, 12:04:39 PM
Oh I love coffee that's what I like about them but in general I just can't drink them. I try them as little samples but I cannot drink more then 4 ounces if them. The macho comment is true I ran into a buddy from high school at a bar and I told him that I homebrew and he said that you can't say you know beer I you don't like guineas then he told me the best beer is bud light so he made himself out to be a meat head. It's like those dudes he want to look sophisticated and drink heinekin lol

There is never a bad beer just ones that you don't like.

I think most macho beer geeks drink Imperal IPAs now, since beer geeks know that Guinness is actually a "light" beer in alcohol and body.   ;)
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jaybeerman on August 17, 2011, 12:29:00 PM
Well at least the drive from Denver will be pretty. That stretch of I-70 has to be the most scenic piece of Interstate system.
It is beautiful in a traditional way (certainly better than going from Denver the OTHER way on I70!  :D), although keep going into Utah and hang south and things get pretty amazing there too! 

Yes amazing drive, nice that you can see the mountains of denver-grand junction immediately followed by the desert of grand junction-moab.  Let me know when you're ready to make a special trip for a "never again" beer; actually if you wanted you could have all 6 or so beers that they make and go for six "never again" beers.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jaybeerman on August 17, 2011, 12:37:53 PM
I will second the Never Again at Rockslide in WColorado.  Garbage.  Shame, bc they have a cool location.

Great location.  The owners are truly thick headed and stubborn.  At this point I think a campaign should be launched to make them into a tourist hot spot.  Come have one of the worst brews made in the US, "wash" it down with mediocre cafeteria style food served as if it were California cuisine.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 17, 2011, 01:02:53 PM
There is never a bad beer just ones that you don't like.

Gotta disagree..there ARE some bad beers out there.  Not just no to my taste, but truly poorly made.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: ckpash88 on August 17, 2011, 01:13:47 PM
It's not the beers fault the brewer is a idiot lol. I guess that is true but no madder how bad it is there is still a lot of effort put into making it.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 17, 2011, 01:34:08 PM
It's not the beers fault the brewer is a idiot lol. I guess that is true but no madder how bad it is there is still a lot of effort put into making it.

Again, I'd have to disagree (regrettably) in some cases.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: bo on August 17, 2011, 01:44:42 PM
You can't blame it on the ingredients, in most cases. It all boils down to the brewer. He's in charge of what goes in and how it's prepared.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: beer_crafter on August 17, 2011, 01:47:54 PM
To me, for a beer to be a "never again", I'd have to be in a bar with it on tap, and order wine instead.... There are not very many of those.  
- Peak Organic Weiss Principal (an imperial hoppy wheat)
- Most spicy Winter Lagers (Sam Adams, Harpoon)
- Corona
- Bud Light
- Bud Light Lime
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jeffy on August 17, 2011, 01:50:31 PM
I have to second (or third or fourth) the Sam Adams triple bock It wasn't BAD perse but strage and soy saucy/maple syrupy course the one I had was 6 years old so who's to say what it was like a little fresher.

Well, when it came out, everybody was saying that it just needed some age to get rid of that flavor....;)

I guess that explains why I found a 6 year old bottle in a liqour store in boston.  ;D

I have a bottle or two from 1994/95.  Maybe it's time to see if they're better now.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: euge on August 17, 2011, 01:55:32 PM
I have to second (or third or fourth) the Sam Adams triple bock It wasn't BAD perse but strage and soy saucy/maple syrupy course the one I had was 6 years old so who's to say what it was like a little fresher.

Well, when it came out, everybody was saying that it just needed some age to get rid of that flavor....;)

I guess that explains why I found a 6 year old bottle in a liqour store in boston.  ;D

I have a bottle or two from 1994/95.  Maybe it's time to see if they're better now.

I paid nearly $20 for a bottle in 94. Awful. What does it cost now?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: morticaixavier on August 17, 2011, 02:18:13 PM
I have to second (or third or fourth) the Sam Adams triple bock It wasn't BAD perse but strage and soy saucy/maple syrupy course the one I had was 6 years old so who's to say what it was like a little fresher.

Well, when it came out, everybody was saying that it just needed some age to get rid of that flavor....;)

I guess that explains why I found a 6 year old bottle in a liqour store in boston.  ;D

I have a bottle or two from 1994/95.  Maybe it's time to see if they're better now.

I paid nearly $20 for a bottle in 94. Awful. What does it cost now?

I think I paid 10 or 15 in 2006
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: pinnah on August 17, 2011, 02:45:04 PM
I will second the Never Again at Rockslide in WColorado.  Garbage.  Shame, bc they have a cool location.
Come have one of the worst brews made in the US, "wash" it down with mediocre cafeteria style food served as if it were California cuisine.

 :D

The last time I went there (as in never again),
it was with my homebrewing brother.

The ultracool hipster California cuisine waiter says "whaddya have"
My brothers mulls a second and says "I'll try your Cream Ale"
Ultracool hipster California cuisine waiter says, "BMC drinker aye?" ::)

Yep, not only the attitude and service, but the beers all stink.
Never Again.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jaybeerman on August 17, 2011, 03:14:44 PM
:D

The last time I went there (as in never again),
it was with my homebrewing brother.

The ultracool hipster California cuisine waiter says "whaddya have"
My brothers mulls a second and says "I'll try your Cream Ale"
Ultracool hipster California cuisine waiter says, "BMC drinker aye?" ::)

Yep, not only the attitude and service, but the beers all stink.
Never Again.


Funny.  I've told them more than once, that for a dishwasher’s wage I'd help them clean up the brewery and design a better menu.  I know a microbiologist who offered his services for free and they refused.  Once I heard the owner explain that they were brewing in the “European” style and that some people just didn’t get it, he followed that with “we’re not about to change anything.”  What an insult to European brewers, it’s a good thing they haven’t heard.

I know he likes the completely flat beers that they've always served.  I'd love to talk them into serving all their beers (with major tweaks) on cask.  I think it could be one of the coolest breweries in the entire region...oh and a new menu.

Sorry, not trying to dominate this thread
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: speed on August 18, 2011, 05:24:22 PM
The only beer I've had that i would describe as truly vile is Brau Brothers Scotch Ale. Had it at a tasting event a few summers ago. It was the only beer I had to spit out that day. They must have used 50% peated malt in the stuff. It tasted like an ashtray!

There are certainly beers I don't care for, but not many for which I would say "never again." I generally avoid fruit beers or beers with other flavor additives like herbs and spices, the exception being certain Belgian styles.


guess i'm on a different page than you, i loved that beer. of course i like peat malt
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: speed on August 18, 2011, 05:27:39 PM
A beer called mephistopheles stout, out of Avery I think. 

It tasted like a mix of 4 day old coffe and used motor oil and 16% abv.  It was the most fowl thing I have every ingested.  If there was a such a thing as a beer monster.  A big bad burly monster made of beer, and one morning he got up and took a dump, I believe it would taste like that. 
have you tried this on tap? i thought it was really good. even bought a bottle and am aging it. bought it in january 08.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: woadwarrior on August 21, 2011, 10:06:16 PM
I have to throw yet another vote on the SA triple bock. I just glad that I didn't pay for it. (I did keep the cool blue bottle though.) The Magic Hat variety pack took me longer to drink than any other case I ever bought so will  not get again. While I hated Troegs' Javahead Stout, my best friend thought it was incredible. And of course there's the usual list of cheap, american, pisswater, canoe beers.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: bluefoxicy on August 22, 2011, 11:23:56 AM
National Bohemian.  I would totally boil crabs in this stuff.  Never drinking it, tastes like fizzy piss.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: morticaixavier on August 22, 2011, 01:06:34 PM
National Bohemian.  I would totally boil crabs in this stuff.  Never drinking it, tastes like fizzy piss.

pissed crab?
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: firedog23 on August 22, 2011, 01:14:21 PM
To me shandies and radlers are not necessarily bad, but should be mixed fresh!  Premixed beer and lemonade in a bottle sounds more like a malt cooler...not something very appealing.



OH I agree that shandies can be better.  I am living in England and until I moved here, I had never heard of one.  I don't drink them but what I had that day was the bottom of the barrel. 
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: akr71 on August 23, 2011, 09:30:46 AM
any beer with chile in it.
Hop Stupid - just f'n nasty
Delirium

Wow!  I've only had Hop Stoopid twice, but thoroughly enjoyed it both times.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 23, 2011, 09:43:27 AM
any beer with chile in it.
Hop Stupid - just f'n nasty
Delirium

Wow!  I've only had Hop Stoopid twice, but thoroughly enjoyed it both times.

Same here...I can live without chile beers, but Hop Stoopid and all versions of Delerium are beers I really enjoy.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: morticaixavier on August 23, 2011, 09:53:10 AM
Another one. not because it's bad but it's just too over the top for me

Mikkeller 1000IBU

Once you get past the ridiculous amounts of hops the malt balance is actually kind of nice but I can't see ever buying it again or really drinking it again. Just to much
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: akr71 on August 23, 2011, 11:40:48 AM
Another + to the nastiness of chile beers.  The one and only time I've had one, I had to for-thought to take sausages out for supper.  Two sips in I had enough and poured the rest of the glass in the pot with the sausages - damned tasty sausages though!

Molson 'M' - wtf is 'micro-carbonated'? - at the launch, you only had to pay the deposit and got a free can - it got poured down the drain after 5 minutes.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: a10t2 on August 23, 2011, 12:11:58 PM
Different strokes, I guess... I can't wait for fall and my Chipotle Porter.

Edit: Of course, I'm also putting the chile'd and non-chile'd batched on tap side by side so that people can blend to their tastes.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 23, 2011, 12:18:12 PM
Chili beers can be interesting but I never want more than one of them, personally.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jeffy on August 23, 2011, 12:32:32 PM
Chili beers can be interesting but I never want more than one of them, personally.
I think my Poblano Witbier is nearly perfect as a lawnmower beer.  I can drink a couple pints easy on a hot day.  AND it's good in steamed mussels.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: ethalacker on August 23, 2011, 12:37:49 PM
Wells Banana Bread Beer.  I took a couple of sips and poured the rest out.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: woadwarrior on August 23, 2011, 01:14:13 PM
*shudders at a lot of the beers being mentioned.*
Chili beer? seriously? Gaaaaahhh.............
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: weazletoe on August 23, 2011, 01:40:05 PM
 Never again will I buy anything from Magic Hat.
 
 Also, there is a brewery in Ohio, in Garretsville. I forget the name of it. I have never had such consistently sucky beer in my life. I got the sampler, and everything from the wheat, to the IPA to the stout was the same. The IPA tasted like stout, or did the stout taste like IPA? A couple of the beers actually had infections. It was just awful. But, on the plus side, the food was amazing!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: nicneufeld on August 23, 2011, 02:26:05 PM
Another + to the nastiness of chile beers.  The one and only time I've had one, I had to for-thought to take sausages out for supper.  Two sips in I had enough and poured the rest of the glass in the pot with the sausages - damned tasty sausages though!

Made a whole batch of a Chipotle IPA years ago.  It was the kind of beer you had to force yourself to drink.  Each time I raised my glass to take a sip my body said "no..no...don't do that again..." and I had to force my arm to comply.  WAY too much heat.  Personally it just tastes out of place in a beer, like I don't want mustard beer or garlic beer or worcestershire beer or anything like that, but I love their flavor in food.  The food I eat is actually a lot spicier than this beer, but somehow I just can't marry up the concept of spicy food and cold beverage...spicy food WITH cold beverage, yes, but spicy cold beverage, unless we are talking ginger beer, is a no win for me.  After each sip, my body just screams out, "wait, this is supposed to be beer, WTF?!"  Maybe a milder flavor chili (poblano, or anaheim/hatch chile) would make a more interesting beer with more flavor than heat.

HOWEVER I use it in cooking still...chili, beer bread, braising sausages, beer batter....
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 23, 2011, 04:01:24 PM
Chili beers can be interesting but I never want more than one of them, personally.
I think my Poblano Witbier is nearly perfect as a lawnmower beer.  I can drink a couple pints easy on a hot day.  AND it's good in steamed mussels.

Sounds good, poblanos aren't spicy so that might work for my tastes. I had a brown ale that was made with mild chili once and it was pretty good.

Same thing with ginger - I love spicy food but don't like a drink with lots of heat. I love the taste of real ginger ale for about half a glass.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: majorvices on August 23, 2011, 04:03:51 PM
*shudders at a lot of the beers being mentioned.*
Chili beer? seriously? Gaaaaahhh.............

You should ask Denny to tell you about his ale made with chanterelle mushrooms - might make you take a double take on ingredients that can and have been used in beers.  I thought he was crazy at first, now I am curious as hell to try it.  ;)
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 23, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
You should ask Denny to tell you about his ale made with chanterelle mushrooms - might make you take a double take on ingredients that can and have been used in beers.  I thought he was crazy at first, now I am curious as hell to try it.  ;)

Well, Keith, you'll get a chance.  I'm gonna make a batch to serve at Club Night at NHC next summer!  The chanterelles work because they subtly blend in, unlike chiles which stomp on yer palate!
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: jeffy on August 24, 2011, 03:18:06 AM
You should ask Denny to tell you about his ale made with chanterelle mushrooms - might make you take a double take on ingredients that can and have been used in beers.  I thought he was crazy at first, now I am curious as hell to try it.  ;)

Well, Keith, you'll get a chance.  I'm gonna make a batch to serve at Club Night at NHC next summer!  The chanterelles work because they subtly blend in, unlike chiles which stomp on yer palate!
Depends entirely on the amount and type of peppers.
Title: Re: "Never Again" beers
Post by: denny on August 24, 2011, 08:23:57 AM
You should ask Denny to tell you about his ale made with chanterelle mushrooms - might make you take a double take on ingredients that can and have been used in beers.  I thought he was crazy at first, now I am curious as hell to try it.  ;)

Well, Keith, you'll get a chance.  I'm gonna make a batch to serve at Club Night at NHC next summer!  The chanterelles work because they subtly blend in, unlike chiles which stomp on yer palate!
Depends entirely on the amount and type of peppers.

Yeah, I agree, Jeff.  I was painting with a broad brush.