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Title: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: dbeechum on August 23, 2011, 08:16:33 PM
What would you say are definitive things every brewers needs to do to be better?
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bonjour on August 23, 2011, 08:23:09 PM
1: RDWHAHB
2: manage Ferment Temps (wort temp during fermentation)
3: pitching appropriate amount of yeast
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: morticaixavier on August 23, 2011, 08:24:13 PM
1: RDWHAHB
2: manage Ferment Temps (wort temp during fermentation)
3: pitching appropriate amount of yeast

4: simplify ingredients
5: RDWHAHB (that should be on there twice)
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: woadwarrior on August 23, 2011, 08:26:28 PM
RDWHAHB means what?
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: dbeechum on August 23, 2011, 08:30:14 PM
Charlie's mantra - Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: ckpash88 on August 23, 2011, 08:31:53 PM
6: Have fun.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: hoser on August 23, 2011, 08:32:32 PM
1. Cleanliness
2. Sanitation
These should be the first 2 ALWAYS (after RDWHAHB)!
9. Join a homebrew community
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: ryang on August 23, 2011, 08:33:38 PM
don't suck


... and (along with what's been said) craft your beer with the final product in mind.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bonjour on August 23, 2011, 08:35:24 PM
Beer is surprisingly resilient, don't worry about little things that go wrong, hell, don't worry about some of the big things that go wrong.
I brewed a Dark Mild as a demo at a very large event, while cooling someone walked by and inadvertently kicked some dirt/mud into the wort.  It was one of the best beers I've ever brewed, not what I intended, but an awesome beer with some bret character.
RDWHAHB
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bonjour on August 23, 2011, 08:36:35 PM
1. Cleanliness
2. Sanitation
I thought about that, but these were so basic I skipped them. :o
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bluesman on August 23, 2011, 08:41:27 PM
Use quality ingredients
Master the mashing process
Yeast management/keep it healthy and clean
Fermentation control
did I say fermentation control
Sound beer transfer (watch out for oxidation)
have fun
enjoy the hobby
RDWHAHB
OH...and fermentation control!  ;D
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: hoser on August 23, 2011, 08:42:19 PM
1. Cleanliness
2. Sanitation
I thought about that, but these were so basic I skipped them. :o

Sometimes the basic stuff gets overlooked and needs to be reinforced.  You would be surprised how many brewers I speak to that overlook the most simple, yet important steps....
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: denny on August 23, 2011, 08:49:33 PM
6: Have fun.

THIS^^^^
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bonjour on August 23, 2011, 08:51:04 PM
6: Have fun.

THIS^^^^
I thought that was the definition of RDWHAHB
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: jaybeerman on August 23, 2011, 08:52:03 PM
i see a lot of people that take cleaning and sanitation too far.  my fav steps are - proper yeast pitching/care, learning the effects of fermentation temp and "learn all your ingredients first, then start brewing."

i really like the last step, there's a multitude of ingredients out there that few people use.  tons of grain, hops, sugars, syrups, yeast, spices, herbs, water additions, etc.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Kit B on August 23, 2011, 09:16:38 PM
1.) Clean
2.) Sanitize
3.) Use quality ingredients
4.) Attempt to understand the mash
5.) Cool the wort as quickly as possible, after boiling
6.) Use proper pitch rates
7.) Use proper fermentation temperatures
8.) Be patient
9.) Be patient
10.) Enjoy, with pride
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: hoser on August 23, 2011, 09:20:52 PM
1.) Clean
2.) Sanitize
3.) Use quality ingredients
4.) Attempt to understand the mash
5.) Cool the wort as quickly as possible, after boiling
6.) Use proper pitch rates
7.) Use proper fermentation temperatures
8.) Be patient
9.) Be patient
10.) Enjoy, with pride
+1 ;D
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: jeffy on August 23, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Enter competitions and try to understand the judges' feedback.  Learn from their comments instead of scoffing at them for dissing your beer.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: JKL on August 23, 2011, 09:37:44 PM
Fermentation temperature control and brewing software (Beersmith) have improved my brewing the most, thus far.  Fermentation control for the obvious and Beersmith has really helped me better understand recipe formulation.
-J.K.L. 
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Wheat_Brewer on August 24, 2011, 12:49:55 AM
The ones listed are the priority, but to throw some other ones out there that haven't been listed:

8) Never have more than 1 beer during brewing sessions
9) Have more than 1 beer AFTER brewing
10) RDWHA Another HB
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: tubercle on August 24, 2011, 01:47:45 AM
1. Understand the difference between clean and sanitized (don't worry about sterilization)
2. Don't believe the "experts"and the status quo.
3. Make what you like.
4. Disregard what others think of your brew if you like it.
5. Never be afraid to experiment
6. Study brewing history. You will find that nothing is new.
7. Listen to Denny
8. Go all grain now. Its just as easy as  extract.
9. Relax, its only a hobby. Stores are full of ready to drink beer in cans.
10. If you are worrying about something, your priorities are out of order.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 24, 2011, 01:56:04 AM
Has anyone mentioned

Brew often.
Always try and improve the beer.
Enjoy your beer - it is yours, and you can say I made this.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Wheat_Brewer on August 24, 2011, 02:00:16 AM
Has anyone mentioned

Brew often.
Always try and improve the beer.
Enjoy your beer - it is yours, and you can say I made this.


Cheers to that! 
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: majorvices on August 24, 2011, 02:08:29 AM
Enjoy your beer - it is yours, and you can say I made this.


Now why would I tell someone you made my beer? :P
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: maxieboy on August 24, 2011, 03:04:55 AM
Has anyone mentioned

Brew often.
Always try and improve the beer.
Enjoy your beer - it is yours, and you can say I made this.


This, and read everything you can get your hands on about brewing.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Hokerer on August 24, 2011, 03:07:15 AM
and join the AHA or, at the very least, join this forum
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 24, 2011, 03:11:29 AM
Enjoy your beer - it is yours, and you can say I made this.


Now why would I tell someone you made my beer? :P
Forgot the quotes.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: skyler on August 24, 2011, 03:59:21 PM
Start simple.

Too many people make the same mistake I did and start off brewing Imperial Stouts and Baltic Porters before they have learned how to manage fermentation temps, build yeast starters, or even mash - if they had started out with a humble Brown Ale or Bitter, they would probably enjoy the results earlier on.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: brewmonk on August 24, 2011, 04:12:54 PM
(Probably fits in under the "R" in RDWHAHB, but)  DON'T GET IN A BIG HURRY ... (unless your wort is boiling over  ;) )
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: linenoiz on August 24, 2011, 05:26:50 PM
If you're brewing a kit, take the instructions and throw them away ASAP.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: richardt on August 24, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
Everybody forgets the 4th ingredient:  water. 
But it comprises 95% of the beer.
It makes a huge difference if you're unfortunate to live in parts of the country where the water isn't ideal for brewing.
Make sure is is good tasting, chlorine- and chloramide-free, and has the necessary ions needed for good AG brewing.
Regular filtered or spring water can be used for extract batches.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: denny on August 24, 2011, 06:48:06 PM
If you're brewing a kit, take the instructions and throw them away ASAP.

I'd have to say that isn't universally true.  I've seen kits with good instructions as well as bad.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Will's Swill on August 25, 2011, 01:30:05 AM
1 ) Forget advice about not drinking homebrew whilst brewing.  A brewer needs inspiration.
2 ) Eat a breakfast burrito prior to brewing.  Sustenance is important for the brewer that excels.
3 ) Remember that the only style guideline that matters is...  Crap, can't think of one that matters.
4 ) Avoid setting the dog on fire.  Non-adherence to this can cause the spousal unit to curtail brewing activities and you'll end up rethinking point of advice #1.
5 ) Buy a headlamp.  Brewing in the dark sucks.
6 ) Don't grab hot items of equipment with your bare hands.
7 ) Leave plenty of space between your nonheat tolerant equipment and your 640,000 BTU burner.
8 ) Be prepared.  Have extra thermometers, hydrometers, pint glasses, cigars, and breakfast burritos on hand.
9 ) When brewing outdoors, brew in a covered space.  Boiling wort attracts snow clouds.  Even in July.
10 ) Send homebrew samples to me.  That will allow me to give much more detailed and individualized advice.  This is likely to be a very iterative process, so keep my address handy each time you package your beer.

Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: maxieboy on August 25, 2011, 01:39:56 AM
1 ) Forget advice about not drinking homebrew whilst brewing.  A brewer needs inspiration.

IME, not so much. First homebrew is after the yeast is pitched. Sweet, sweet reward...
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Hokerer on August 25, 2011, 01:58:01 AM
1 ) Forget advice about not drinking homebrew whilst brewing.  A brewer needs inspiration.

IME, not so much. First homebrew is after the yeast is pitched. Sweet, sweet reward...

I think I'd have to agree.  Safety and motivation.  Good deal
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: denny on August 25, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
1 ) Forget advice about not drinking homebrew whilst brewing.  A brewer needs inspiration.

I get all the inspiration I need when I have a couple beers after I brew.  Drinking while brewing leads me to mistakes and laziness.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bo on August 25, 2011, 03:43:02 PM
1 ) Forget advice about not drinking homebrew whilst brewing.  A brewer needs inspiration.

I get all the inspiration I need when I have a couple beers after I brew.  Drinking while brewing leads me to mistakes and laziness.

I'm with you on this.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bonjour on August 25, 2011, 03:46:10 PM
1 ) Forget advice about not drinking homebrew whilst brewing.  A brewer needs inspiration.

I get all the inspiration I need when I have a couple beers after I brew.  Drinking while brewing leads me to mistakes and laziness.

I'm with you on this.
+1
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bluesman on August 25, 2011, 03:48:57 PM
I usually pull a pint right after flameout. It's the reward for a job well done.  :)
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 25, 2011, 04:04:11 PM
1 ) Forget advice about not drinking homebrew whilst brewing.  A brewer needs inspiration.

I get all the inspiration I need when I have a couple beers after I brew.  Drinking while brewing leads me to mistakes and laziness.

I have found that the safety and quality control are both better if I do not drink until everything is finished, cleaned, and stored away.  Then I can have a pint.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: JKL on August 25, 2011, 04:11:29 PM
1 ) Forget advice about not drinking homebrew whilst brewing.  A brewer needs inspiration.

I get all the inspiration I need when I have a couple beers after I brew.  Drinking while brewing leads me to mistakes and laziness.

I have found that the safety and quality control are both better if I do not drink until everything is finished, cleaned, and stored away.  Then I can have a pint.

+1 ...although it's tempting, I have lived and learned in that department. I always have as many as I feel necessary after everything is done. ;)
-J.K.L.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: tschmidlin on August 25, 2011, 05:27:30 PM
I'm with you guys, no beers until I'm (nearly) done.  Not before chilling anyway.  Inspiration is great during recipe development, getting inspired while brewing leads to some bad brews.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: jeffy on August 25, 2011, 07:31:13 PM
I rarely have a beer before noon when I'm brewing.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: tschmidlin on August 25, 2011, 08:28:18 PM
I'm with you guys, no beers until I'm (nearly) done.  Not before chilling anyway.  Inspiration is great during recipe development, getting inspired while brewing leads to some bad brews.
I'm breaking my rule.  It's boiling, not chilling.  ;D
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: rabid_dingo on August 26, 2011, 04:53:42 AM
I'm with you guys, no beers until I'm (nearly) done.  Not before chilling anyway.  Inspiration is great during recipe development, getting inspired while brewing leads to some bad brews.
I'm breaking my rule.  It's boiling, not  I'm chilling.  ;D
Fixed that for you.

I will be the first to admit that I don't always abstain while brewing as mentioned but sometimes I'll have one or two in 4-6 hours at most before finishing the process. I used to pop one open at the time the mash started. It was never a marathon drinking session just a RDW kind of brew day and it seemed appropriate. But listening to the group, it makes sense. No need to add alcohol to the laundry list of dangers. Glass carboys 'splodin' and brewing in the garage near a gas tank, or high temps of boiling wort...With my luck I am amazed I don't have any brew battle scars...

So I'll add, XX.) Be safe.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: tschmidlin on August 26, 2011, 05:49:52 AM
Everything turned out fine AFAIK, but I'll judge it again after fermentation.  It took longer to clean up than it should have, but that is to be expected.  Then my neighbor showed up with a bottle of Ardbeg . . . ;D
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: tonyp on August 26, 2011, 05:52:10 AM
11) marry a woman who loves beer.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: tschmidlin on August 26, 2011, 06:00:22 AM
11) marry a woman person who loves beer.
Not all brewers would chose to marry a woman - example, Kathryn Porter ;) ;D

But this should be first on the list.  Without the support it makes it really hard to happily stay in the hobby.  I was a brewer before I met my wife, but I feel for people who got into the hobby later and their spouse is less than supportive.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: punatic on August 26, 2011, 06:17:24 AM
11) marry a woman person who loves beer.
Not all brewers would chose to marry a woman - example, Kathryn Porter ;) ;D


So serious...  RDWHAHB


But this should be first on the list.  Without the support it makes it really hard to happily stay in the hobby.  I was a brewer before I met my wife, but I feel for people who got into the hobby later and their spouse is less than supportive.

I met my wife at NHC '96, seven years after I started brewing.  She pushes me to brew.  And I enjoy every nudge!
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: tschmidlin on August 26, 2011, 06:32:12 AM
11) marry a woman person who loves beer.
Not all brewers would chose to marry a woman - example, Kathryn Porter ;) ;D

So serious...  RDWHAHB
Me?! ;D  nah, but if we're coming up with a list we might as well include everyone, no?


But this should be first on the list.  Without the support it makes it really hard to happily stay in the hobby.  I was a brewer before I met my wife, but I feel for people who got into the hobby later and their spouse is less than supportive.
I met my wife at NHC '96, seven years after I started brewing.  She pushes me to brew.  And I enjoy every nudge!
Lucky man. :)  Does she brew?

I met my wife at Alameda Brewing in Portland, through her co-workers (my college buddies).  Her go-to beer when she turned 21 was Black Butte Porter.  She doesn't brew, but she enjoys my efforts and nudges me to brew too.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: hopvine on August 26, 2011, 01:38:56 PM
- Learn to taste beer, and calibrate your pallet/preferences to professional beers rather than homebrew.

I see this far too often; people that stopped buying commercial beers after they began homebrewing start to tolerate (and in some cases prefer) the common off flavors in homebrew.  Never stop buying good commercial examples of different styles, and mimic them as best you can.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bluesman on August 26, 2011, 01:48:24 PM
I have to agree that it really helps to have your wife or significant other support your brewing adventures.

I think I'm lucky in that my wife is very supportive of my brewing.

It should definitely be on the list of steps.  ;)
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Mark G on August 26, 2011, 02:06:56 PM
Having a supportive spouse should definitely be on the list. I started brewing after we got married, but my wife has always enjoyed good beer, so she supports my "hobby." It's kind of funny how after every childbirth, her palate, and my brewing priorities, have changed. After the first, it was lagers. Then, it changed to hoppy beers. Now, she's discovered the joy of sour beers.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: jeffy on August 26, 2011, 02:29:28 PM
My wife does not drink beer.  Wine, single malt, gin, vodka, rum, but no beer unless I ask her for an opinion on my homebrew.  She doesn't so much support my brewing as tolerate it since she knows how important it is to me.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: ynotbrusum on August 26, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
My wife says she admires my passion for the hobby.

Our club's only rule:  if you are making beer, you had better be drinking beer.  (a positive vibe thing, rather than a get drunk thing).
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Al Equihua on August 26, 2011, 05:25:36 PM
In my case, when I first started making beer as a new hobby I decided it would be disadvantageous for my health and life and I decided to go to a gym as a rule. I had years who did not exercise regularly and I think there is no justification to just do something like pleasure and do nothing for the health of your body to try to compensate. Im 37 years old and I think it should be esady drink from now on, forget about comercial beers and drink less but quality beer as once did,

 I like to drink my beer on Friday and Saturday
I know this is nothing to do with skills, knowledge or gadget for brewing but i recomend this option so that makes me feel better when I drink beer and think: Im a brewer! and also workout!
Do exercise!!
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: denny on August 26, 2011, 06:09:14 PM
I think time of day plays a big part in having a beer or 2 while brewing.  I start no later than 9 AM usually and I just don't want to start drinking that early.  But since I'm always done by 2 PM, it's easy to hold off having a beer (or several) til then.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: JKL on August 26, 2011, 06:42:41 PM
Having a supportive spouse should definitely be on the list. I started brewing after we got married, but my wife has always enjoyed good beer, so she supports my "hobby." It's kind of funny how after every childbirth, her palate, and my brewing priorities, have changed. After the first, it was lagers. Then, it changed to hoppy beers. Now, she's discovered the joy of sour beers.

I was brewing before I met my wife so it's one of those things that got "Grandfathered" into the relationship.  I have taken several hiatus from brewing since we've been together but when I start back up she never says much.  Sure, I get the occasional, "Your beer stuff is everywhere" and "You spend more time with your beer stuff than me", but deep down I know she thinks it's cool that I can turn water (and grain) into beer.  Guess what?  She's right!
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: tonyp on August 26, 2011, 06:45:35 PM
11) marry a woman person who loves beer.
Not all brewers would chose to marry a woman - example, Kathryn Porter ;) ;D

woops, you're absolutely right, my apologies!
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: roguenationpatriot on August 26, 2011, 06:51:23 PM
11) marry a woman who loves beer.

Heck I need the exact opposite, my girl likes my home brew too much some times.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: jeffy on August 26, 2011, 06:59:46 PM
11) marry a woman who loves beer.

Heck I need the exact opposite, my girl likes my home brew too much some times.
See, that's where I have the advantage having a wife who doesn't drink beer.  Mine, all mine!
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: roguenationpatriot on August 26, 2011, 07:08:34 PM
11) marry a woman who loves beer.

Heck I need the exact opposite, my girl likes my home brew too much some times.
See, that's where I have the advantage having a wife who doesn't drink beer.  Mine, all mine!

Lucky you, wanna trade?
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Kit B on August 26, 2011, 07:16:30 PM
I think time of day plays a big part in having a beer or 2 while brewing.  I start no later than 9 AM usually and I just don't want to start drinking that early.  But since I'm always done by 2 PM, it's easy to hold off having a beer (or several) til then.

Hahahaha...
Denny,
I thought you were stating that you started drinking no later than 9.
This contradicted nearly everything I have learned about you, in my year of reading the forum.
I just had to laugh at my mistaken reading of your post.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: JKL on August 26, 2011, 08:18:21 PM
It's been so hot this summer that I've been trying to fire the HLT around 5:00am.  That way I'm in the house drinking by noon.  The garage has sure been steamy through the boil though. Whew!
-J.K.L.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: denny on August 26, 2011, 08:34:31 PM
I think time of day plays a big part in having a beer or 2 while brewing.  I start no later than 9 AM usually and I just don't want to start drinking that early.  But since I'm always done by 2 PM, it's easy to hold off having a beer (or several) til then.

Hahahaha...
Denny,
I thought you were stating that you started drinking no later than 9.
This contradicted nearly everything I have learned about you, in my year of reading the forum.
I just had to laugh at my mistaken reading of your post.


I can see how it sounded like that!  In truth, once or twice a year when I host something like Big Brew, I do start drinking at 9 or so.  Those days I just kinda write off the beer...it's gonna be whatever it's gonna be!
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: Will's Swill on August 27, 2011, 03:41:55 PM
So it seems that the brewers who heed the no-beers-while-brewing rule follow it about as well as the rules on speeding.  ;)  I'm sure none of us speed either.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 27, 2011, 03:48:05 PM
So it seems that the brewers who heed the no-beers-while-brewing rule follow it about as well as the rules on speeding.  ;)  I'm sure none of us speed either.

I stick to it, the brewing part.

The speed limit?  I have slowed down, but I used to live in Germany, and miss the Autobahn.  Say no more.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: ynotbrusum on August 27, 2011, 03:54:14 PM
Well, I tried a middle ground approach today - I started before 9 am on the mash and had my first beer 15 minutes into the boil.  My hops are set out and my IC is at the ready with the hose.  This first pilsner sure is hitting the spot.

 ;D
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: punatic on August 27, 2011, 06:20:03 PM
I think time of day plays a big part in having a beer or 2 while brewing.  I start no later than 9 AM usually and I just don't want to start drinking that early.  But since I'm always done by 2 PM, it's easy to hold off having a beer (or several) til then.

Hahahaha...
Denny,
I thought you were stating that you started drinking no later than 9.
This contradicted nearly everything I have learned about you, in my year of reading the forum.
I just had to laugh at my mistaken reading of your post.


I can see how it sounded like that!  In truth, once or twice a year when I host something like Big Brew, I do start drinking at 9 or so.  Those days I just kinda write off the beer...it's gonna be whatever it's gonna be!

All beer drinking scheduled time limits do not apply to fishing trips and NHCs.  It says so right in the rules.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: nateo on August 27, 2011, 06:51:36 PM
All beer drinking scheduled time limits do not apply to fishing trips and NHCs.  It says so right in the rules.

I work in a tackle store next to a fishing area, and when I first started I was surprised how many people start drinking at 6am. I tend to see a lot more wake-and-bake than drinking, though.

I usually have a beer or two while brewing, regardless of the time I brew, but when you own/run a business, you're basically always on the clock. If I never drank when I have a few spare hours at random times, I'd never be able to drink.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: gymrat on August 28, 2011, 02:46:37 PM
I think time of day plays a big part in having a beer or 2 while brewing.  I start no later than 9 AM usually and I just don't want to start drinking that early.  But since I'm always done by 2 PM, it's easy to hold off having a beer (or several) til then.

+1 on this one. I am no longer the " gym rat" I used to be. But at almost 56 years of age I can still do 15 pushups on each arm and nearly 20 chinups. I only drink twice a week. I am 4 years from retiring and ever so glad for the time I have invested in my health. I want to have the health to do the things I want to do after I retire.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: gymrat on August 28, 2011, 02:49:58 PM
Hmm. Quoted the wrong poster.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: gymrat on August 28, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
In my case, when I first started making beer as a new hobby I decided it would be disadvantageous for my health and life and I decided to go to a gym as a rule. I had years who did not exercise regularly and I think there is no justification to just do something like pleasure and do nothing for the health of your body to try to compensate. Im 37 years old and I think it should be esady drink from now on, forget about comercial beers and drink less but quality beer as once did,

 I like to drink my beer on Friday and Saturday
I know this is nothing to do with skills, knowledge or gadget for brewing but i recomend this option so that makes me feel better when I drink beer and think: Im a brewer! and also workout!
Do exercise!!

This was the intended quote.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: jeffy on August 28, 2011, 06:52:22 PM
Quoting Denny on the benefits of exercise seems incongruous.  I'm happy you got that straightened out.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: denny on August 28, 2011, 09:15:01 PM
Quoting Denny on the benefits of exercise seems incongruous.  I'm happy you got that straightened out.


Hey, man, I'm on my treadmill 4-5 days a week!  Not that you can tell by the way I look....
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: bluesman on August 29, 2011, 12:10:02 AM
Quoting Denny on the benefits of exercise seems incongruous.  I'm happy you got that straightened out.


Hey, man, I'm on my treadmill 4-5 days a week!  Not that you can tell by the way I look....

Good for you Denny. Should we add being fit to the list?  I think we should.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: punatic on August 29, 2011, 02:13:41 AM
A friend of mine says his wife is always after him to get in shape.  He responds that he is in shape; round is a shape!   :D
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: punatic on August 29, 2011, 06:13:25 AM
+1 on this one. I am no longer the " gym rat" I used to be. But at almost 56 years of age I can still do 15 pushups on each arm and nearly 20 chinups. I only drink twice a week. I am 4 years from retiring and ever so glad for the time I have invested in my health. I want to have the health to do the things I want to do after I retire.

I'll be 56 in a month or so.  I have a 12 year old son to keep up with.  Staying in shape is not an option, it is an imperative.
Besides there's nothing like a good hard sweaty 12 and a half mile bike ride to burn off a hangover!  

Retire - hmmm I guess I did that 6 years ago when I started my own businesses.  I love what I'm doing now.  Everyday is different!  When I was an employee the hours at work drraaaaggged by.  Now that I work for myself the days are waaaaay too short.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: jaybeerman on August 29, 2011, 04:11:29 PM
 :)  10 easy steps and/or six pages  ;)
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: dbeechum on August 29, 2011, 04:56:02 PM
Here's what I included in my talk:


Interestingly, that was my basic list before I asked, but ya'll helped flesh it out. I appreciate the help and the weird twists the conversation has taken.
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: WDE97 on August 29, 2011, 05:11:10 PM
Brew with other people once in awhile, such as at a club brew day, to see what others do during their brew day. We can all learn from each other.   
Title: Re: 10 easy steps to being a better brewer
Post by: dbeechum on August 29, 2011, 05:12:18 PM
YEah, that fell under the Brew Often header.