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Title: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: boulderbrewer on August 24, 2011, 02:56:29 AM: Well being a newbie I got to thinking about hops and recipes. Big oops on my part I need 600# for a modest IPA. The thing is I need them this year and now. My recipe calls for the hardest to get hops, and they are all spoken for now what? I hope to get them by hook or crook but you got to think about the availability of your raw materials.

Just another thing to think about.
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: morticaixavier on August 24, 2011, 02:58:57 AM: juhayzus! 600 lbs? what size batch are you making!!!!!!

okay I am guessing you mean you are a newbie to the pro world.
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: boulderbrewer on August 24, 2011, 03:12:39 AM: Only about 10 bbls at a time, this would be a second beer and looking to sell 500 bbls a year. Figuring 10% loss or excess. Depends on extract effienciecy
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: nateo on August 24, 2011, 01:46:53 PM: Extract efficiency is much greater on large systems. On a 10bbl system you might get 2-3x the extract efficiency as you would on a homebrew scale. The only way to really know would be to brew a batch and send a sample to a lab to calculate IBU.

Supply line issues are going to be a normal issue with brewing, especially with hops, with so few being grown and so much demand, especially with the proprietary strains. If I were to make recipes, I would tailor them around well-established and non-proprietary strains, like the ones released by the USDA in Corvallis.
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: majorvices on August 24, 2011, 01:48:11 PM: Hang in there for hops. There may be a few hundred pounds that break away in November. Keep your eyes open. First come first serve.
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on August 25, 2011, 12:21:17 PM: Geez, Marc, I didn't even know you went pro! Congrats!!!

So where cant I get some of your brew??
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: boulderbrewer on August 31, 2011, 02:45:11 AM: Majority is going to be flavor and aroma so no lucking out on extract effiency. I didn't want to use extracts but I guess we have accept the real world realities.

Pautucket, Hopefully next spring, maybe as close as Eau Claire at TM's place. (If he will sell it). :) !!
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on August 31, 2011, 01:54:29 PM: Marc,

The current law in WI does not allow me to distribute your beer. If I could I would LOVE to.

Fruit extract vs real fruit. I was just offered 200 lb of Black Current for fruit beer. Price for 1lb was $4.50.
So compare extract price and real fruit price.
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: nateo on August 31, 2011, 02:02:03 PM: Quote from: Thirsty_Monk on August 31, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Marc,

The current law in WI does not allow me to distribute your beer. If I could I would LOVE to.

Fruit extract vs real fruit. I was just offered 200 lb of Black Current for fruit beer. Price for 1lb was $4.50.
So compare extract price and real fruit price.

Huh?

In any case, black currant beer sounds pretty good
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: beersk on October 11, 2011, 09:20:15 PM: Can't wait to see Tangerine Dream on the shelves at my local Hy-Vee. Damn, that's good stuff. Good luck, buddy!
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: bluesman on October 11, 2011, 09:35:56 PM: Quote from: boulderbrewer on August 31, 2011, 02:45:11 AM
Majority is going to be flavor and aroma so no lucking out on extract effiency. I didn't want to use extracts but I guess we have accept the real world realities.

Pautucket, Hopefully next spring, maybe as close as Eau Claire at TM's place. (If he will sell it). :) !!

Good Luck on the new venture! :)

I'll be on the lookout for your beer when it becomes available if I can get it.
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: boulderbrewer on October 13, 2011, 05:01:52 AM: I hope TD will be there someday too Beersk! Bluesy you probably have to be in the midwest to get it, If I ever get that far.
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on October 13, 2011, 09:32:29 PM: BB about selling your beers. I know I can not do distribution of your beers in my area. New law.
Title: Re: Thinking of your recipe, buying hops.
Post by: beersk on October 20, 2011, 04:41:19 PM: Quote from: Thirsty_Monk on October 13, 2011, 09:32:29 PM
BB about selling your beers. I know I can not do distribution of your beers in my area. New law.
Ha, nice try TM.