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Title: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 25, 2011, 04:28:26 PM
Hurricane Irene that is...It's about time to batten down the hatches here on the Mid-Atlantic coast. She's heading our way and I'm currently dead center in the direct path (current)  of fury.

I hope she veers right.  :-X

http://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/article/tropical-depression-nine-storm-hurricane-irene_2011-08-20

http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm9/spec_floater3_large_animated.html
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: weazletoe on August 25, 2011, 04:57:27 PM
PUT ON A HELMET!!     


Seriously, dude, be smart, and be safe. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 25, 2011, 05:04:26 PM
PUT ON A HELMET!!     


Seriously, dude, be smart, and be safe. Keep us posted.

Thanks  :)

Should be interesting to say the least.  :(
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: Mark G on August 25, 2011, 05:12:33 PM
And remember, if you lose power, plug the kegerator into the generator first.

Seriously though, I hope it goes back out over the ocean. Good luck.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 25, 2011, 05:57:04 PM
How close to the coast are you Ron?  Any plans to evacuate inland?  i grew up at the beach in NJ and we stayed through a couple of hurricanes.  It was fun :)  But I wouldn't hesitate to pack up the kids and leave now that I'm old and cautious. ;)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 25, 2011, 06:06:09 PM
I'm a few miles from the coastline of The Delaware Bay. I'm not making plans to evacuate at the present time. As the storm tracks closere, I'll make a call on that. Right now the NWS is predicting an extreme threat for our area including 100mph winds, widespread power outages and downed trees.  :o

I'm going to play it by ear for now.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: euge on August 25, 2011, 06:09:58 PM
Keerful now. Plywood over the windows. Stay inside. Best of luck.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 25, 2011, 06:19:31 PM
Only 100 mph? :o

We lose enough trees here when we gets gusts of 70 mph.  Have you covered the windows like euge suggests?  Got batteries and candles?  it doesn't hurt to fill a bathtub for water, or any spare kegs you have lying around.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 25, 2011, 06:36:49 PM
Only 100 mph? :o

We lose enough trees here when we gets gusts of 70 mph.  Have you covered the windows like euge suggests?  Got batteries and candles?  it doesn't hurt to fill a bathtub for water, or any spare kegs you have lying around.

Good advice on having plenty of drinking water handy, in case of a long power outage.

As homebrewers, we can boil water to make it safe.  Having fresh water to boil may be the problem for some.  Fill up, if nothing else you will have some peace of mind about drinking water.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: glastctbrew on August 25, 2011, 06:42:29 PM
Remember, you have to drain the keggerator when the power fails lest the beer get warm!  Well, I have no choice because no power = no well pump so no water.   Anyway, gotta love home appliances that continue to function when the power goes out!  

On a more serious note, keep your head down and stay safe Ron, and anyone else in her path!  I have a feeling she'll be a bit tamer by the time she hits us here in CT on Sunday.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: woadwarrior on August 25, 2011, 06:57:54 PM
Good luck and stay safe. Maybe pack the kegerator with ice to keep things cold just in case.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: richardt on August 25, 2011, 08:14:42 PM
And do remember to fill your car and gas cans up before the storm. 
Gas pumps run on electricity. 
No electricity to run the pumps means no gas.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 25, 2011, 08:18:06 PM
And do remember to fill your car and gas cans up before the storm. 
Gas pumps run on electricity. 
No electricity to run the pumps means no gas.


Nice tip!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 25, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
I've been watching that closely.  I still have lots of family and friends in Florida.  (My friends in Florida are waxing up their surf boards).

I do not miss that at all.  The threat of hurricanes was like the constant dull pain of a toothache.  Plus, working for the power company really messed with things when storms were near.

In the summer of 2004 we had 4 hurricanes in 6 weeks in Orlando.  We suffered a lot of damage. They changed everything.   

January of 2005 I moved to Hawaii for good.   We get them here every decade or two.  The Pacific out here is much cooler than the Gulf and the Atlantic.  They tend to fizzle out before they get here.  The last one was Iniki that hit Kauai on 9/11/92.




Get some cash too.  ATMs and debit cards don't work without power.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: blatz on August 25, 2011, 08:50:55 PM
we'll check in with you when the volcano's about to blow,and see if you feel the same way :-)


In the summer of 2004 we had 4 hurricanes in 6 weeks in Orlando.  We suffered a lot of damage. They changed everything.  


I learned a lot that year - I got hit by 3 of those 4, though with less severity than you guys did (esp Punta Gorda).  In the new pad, I'll be sporting impact windows, a 20kW generator - its expensive, but only takes one storm to be worth it, IMO - lesson learned.

BTW - waves are sick today - 12-14ft sets at the pier down the street from my office.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 25, 2011, 08:53:26 PM
we'll check in with you when the volcano's about to blow,and see if you feel the same way :-)

 :D

Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: weazletoe on August 25, 2011, 09:10:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9XGjvp0uFM
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: jeffy on August 25, 2011, 09:25:02 PM
One nice thing about hurricanes is that they move so slowly you have time to think about a plan.  Even if it's as close as 100 miles away it still only moves at 15 mph.  Not true with other calamities, like earthquakes or volcanoes.
Having brewers supplies makes the power outages manageable - freezer full of frozen water bottles to keep everything from spoiling, propane burners to cook stuff, big kettles to boil water.  It's all good.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 25, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
One nice thing about hurricanes is that they move so slowly you have time to think about a plan.  Even if it's as close as 100 miles away it still only moves at 15 mph.  Not true with other calamities, like earthquakes or volcanoes.
Having brewers supplies makes the power outages manageable - freezer full of frozen water bottles to keep everything from spoiling, propane burners to cook stuff, big kettles to boil water.  It's all good.

The worst that I plan for where I live is a major tornado that takes out all of the power for up to a week.  I can walk to the river for water and boil it fo make it potable. 

Lived through a 3.5 days outage at our old house some years back.  Not so fun.

Hang in there all of you on the east Coast.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 25, 2011, 09:51:21 PM

BTW - waves are sick today - 12-14ft sets at the pier down the street from my office.

So, when are the predicting the waves to get big?   ;D

The main thing I learned that summer is you've got to be prepared in advance, and there is no way to change what's coming your way.  You just have to take it on the head, and then clean up and move on.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: weazletoe on August 25, 2011, 10:33:42 PM
You just have to take it on the head, and then clean up and move on.

I've said it once today, and I'll say it again...................THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: majorvices on August 25, 2011, 10:41:17 PM
You just have to take it on the head, and then clean up and move on.

I've said it once today, and I'll say it again...................THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!

Man - you're really reachin' for that one weaz. I'm not even sure what that means. Keep your proclivities to yourself, man!  ;)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: weazletoe on August 25, 2011, 10:46:02 PM
Keep your proclivities to yourself, man! 

 Had to bust out the dictonary on that one. Next time you choose to scold me, you're gonna need to dumb it down for me.  ;D
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: woadwarrior on August 25, 2011, 10:48:57 PM
I was listening to the weather report and they were saying this might be the worst hurricane to hit the coast since 1950 sumtin'. Here in western PA, they're predicting sunny and 80 on Saturday. Good luck to all of you along the coast.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 26, 2011, 02:32:38 AM
we'll check in with you when the volcano's about to blow,and see if you feel the same way :-)

 :D



I just saw this. 
The volcano(s) are a big part of why I moved here!  Kilauea has been erupting continuously since January 1983.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tonyp on August 26, 2011, 02:42:47 AM
gearing up for the hurricane here on the jersey shore, water, food, flashlights, batts, etc etc.  should be a good one.

on a related note, i went surfing *during* hurricane Gloria back in 85? 86? Took me 45min of constant paddling to get out past the breakers. rode one 12-14ft wave (the face was double that), wiped out near the end of the ride and spent over 3 min underwater until i reached down and grabbed my leash and pulled the board down so it floated me back up. good times. gooooooooood times.

tonyp
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: aviking427 on August 26, 2011, 02:58:52 AM
We are gonna get whacked here in South Eastern NY. The center is going right over us if the models are correct and I'm not too confident she will downgrade much. There is a bunch of potential for her to speed up or maintain her 2-3 once she gets up here due to the current flow of the jet stream. Sooooooooooooo.... I have 15 gallons of homebrew, 1 - 10 lb pork butt ready to smoke, generator, lots 'o water, salmon ready to smoke, cigars and a prayer that she moves far east. Tempted to brew a batch during the storm. or is that taunting?
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: MrNate on August 26, 2011, 04:18:29 AM
Yup, I'm right in the path. About in the middle of the state. Now I've never been through a hurricane - I was living in CA when Floyd came through - So I'm not really sure what measures are appropriate. I figured fill a few corneys with water (hey, not like they're holding beer, right?) get the aux pump ready, gas up the Jeep, and get stuff on the basement floor moved to higher ground.

Wish I had a genny, but at least I have an inverter for the jeep. Have to make sure I have batteries for the flashlights, though. Hell, if nothing else I have a kerosene lamp.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: loopy on August 26, 2011, 04:53:20 AM
you guys in the storm path be safe.  stock up on your beer and pop tarts early.  even a cat1 storm is a BIG DEAL.  be careful. 

I work for a company that does electrical power generation and we have roughly 28 power plants in the north east.  Not only did we ship an enormous load of "spares" up today, we signed on with rignet for emergency services and I worked out the vpn tunnel configs for worst case scenarios in the event of verizon and at&t failures. 

Even tho I live in Texas, my weekend is absolutely shot as I will be spending it in support of getting electric plants back online after the storm.  Bad timing too, I married my lovely wife 11 years ago this weekend.  We were supposed to do a limo winery trip for our anniversary.  So much for that.  We even had a weekend babysitter thing worked out, I guess that just means my kids wont be bothering me while I am working at the computer. 

f##kin yankees and their yankee hurricanes. 
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: euge on August 26, 2011, 05:00:05 AM
Honestly, we've been praying for a hurricane, tropical storm whatever. Just so we can get some freakin real rain. :-\

But it's all gone North this year and it hasn't been good for them.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 26, 2011, 05:53:11 AM

I work for a company that does electrical power generation and we have roughly 28 power plants in the north east.  Not only did we ship an enormous load of "spares" up today, we signed on with rignet for emergency services and I worked out the vpn tunnel configs for worst case scenarios in the event of verizon and at&t failures. 

Even tho I live in Texas, my weekend is absolutely shot as I will be spending it in support of getting electric plants back online after the storm. 

Sounds like you're involved with load dispatch.  Not sure what you mean by "spares."

From my experience, after the storm has passed, generation capacity is not the problem.  Power plants usually weather the storm well.  It is transmission, and paticularly distribution infrastructure that suffer the most damage.  The plants can generate all the power needed, there is just nowhere to send it.

One of the most inspiring and "make me proud to be American" things, is how power companies  across the nation send line crews to areas affected by storms to assist in repairing the transmission and distribution system damage.  It is truly American exceptionalism at it's finest.

I am also proud that Orlando Utilities Commision line crews have the reputation of being some of the best trained and hardest working storm repair crews in the nation.

I am praying that Irene takes a hard hook to the right and spins off harnlessly into the north Atlantic!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 26, 2011, 06:21:54 AM
Honestly, we've been praying for a hurricane, tropical storm whatever. Just so we can get some freakin real rain. :-\

But it's all gone North this year and it hasn't been good for them.
As dry as it's been there euge, I would think massive amount of rain would just cause massive runoff and flash floods.  You guys need 3 days of sustained light rain to soften the ground, then a decent storm.

Or not. :D
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: euge on August 26, 2011, 06:40:54 AM
Tom I think we'd take it anyway. The Edwards aquifer can soak up quite a bit of rain in the recharge zone and we get flash floods that kill people in normal years. The bulk of the water ends up in the Gulf. But, yes- I concur. Consistent light rain for a few days. Then a soaker.

From watching the news it looks like the affected States are trying to be proactive instead of reactionary towards the emergency. Kudos.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 26, 2011, 06:54:58 AM

From watching the news it looks like the affected States are trying to be proactive instead of reactionary towards the emergency. Kudos.

Yes, and I'm sure that much consideration is being given to it all in Martha's Vineyard.   ::)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: euge on August 26, 2011, 07:01:07 AM
Such cynicism. ;D

Hit by an earthquake and then a hurricane a week later. What a bummer.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 26, 2011, 01:34:04 PM
Tempted to brew a batch during the storm. or is that taunting?

Just call it Irene's Fuery.  :)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 26, 2011, 01:38:23 PM
Such cynicism. ;D

Hit by an earthquake and then a hurricane a week later. What a bummer.

Crazy times.  :-\
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: redbeerman on August 26, 2011, 01:48:07 PM
Only calling for tropical storm winds in my area, Ron.  I'm about 50 miles northwest of you.  I hope it goes to the right as well.  On the bright side, the generator is ready to go and we have plenty of food and water.  Lost power for 4 days when Isabelle came through in 2003, we were the only house in the area that had a generator at the time.  Good luck to you, brother.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: MrNate on August 26, 2011, 05:04:53 PM
One of the most inspiring and "make me proud to be American" things, is how power companies  across the nation send line crews to areas affected by storms to assist in repairing the transmission and distribution system damage.  It is truly American exceptionalism at it's finest.

Amen.

I make sure I point out to my daughters that the utilities don't just magically come back online. I'll point out the window during a storm and say, "look out there - right now, there's someone outside in that who would rather be safe at home with their family, but who went out in this storm to do a dangerous job just so that we could have power again."
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: narvin on August 27, 2011, 04:29:27 AM

From watching the news it looks like the affected States are trying to be proactive instead of reactionary towards the emergency. Kudos.

Yes, and I'm sure that much consideration is being given to it all in Martha's Vineyard.   ::)

I'm not really sure what you're getting at here.  Is it because the President is on vacation? 
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 27, 2011, 05:53:38 PM
Irene made landfall about 2 hours ago at Cape Lookout, NC. She's now traveling the coast line NNE and heading my way. It's should be passing through the night. I am prepared as I can possibly be.

Good luck to all east coasters.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 27, 2011, 06:17:48 PM
Head down Ron, be safe.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 27, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
Irene made landfall about 2 hours ago at Cape Lookout, NC. She's now traveling the coast line NNE and heading my way. It's should be passing through the night. I am prepared as I can possibly be.

Good luck to all east coasters.

Duck and cover amigo!  Be safe.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: Hokerer on August 27, 2011, 06:52:23 PM
Biggest result of her fury here is that she cut short our scout campout.  We were camping in the National Park and they made us evac by noon.  Would have been fun to see which of the kids floated away :)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 27, 2011, 07:04:04 PM
Biggest result of her fury here is that she cut short our scout campout.  We were camping in the National Park and they made us evac by noon.  Would have been fun to see which of the kids floated away :)

Shenandoah National Park?  I spent a lot of time there in my Scouting days.

Maybe they could have gotten their Mile Swim Patch  ;)

Sorry for the hijack.  Just curious.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: Tim McManus on August 27, 2011, 07:15:13 PM
Not worried about this storm at all, but then again I'm not on the coast.

The concern for NYC et al is the wind and subsequent storm surge.  Since the center of the storm is very low pressure, the ocean tends to swell and rise at that point.  Couple that with the new moon we are currently in, and you have significant tides to worry about.  The eye is predicted to go over NYC, so there should be significant flooding and wave motion over established sea walls.

For those of you who are tracking the storm, here are some links.  I am an NOAA weather spotter, so I track this stuff all the time as well as reporting weather data back to the folks who need to know.

Storm relative to my home town:
http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=41.02960205&lon=-74.29774475&zoom=8&pin=Haskell%2c%20NJ&type=hyb&rad=1&wxsn=0&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=0&hur=0

National Hurricane Center
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/#IRENE

Hourly Weather Forecast for my home town
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=41.02940&lon=-74.30190&unit=0&lg=english&FcstType=graphical

River Height Data for NJ (home state)
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nj/nwis/rt

The Davis Vantage Pro Plus in my back yard
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KNJHASKE1

You can search for you location at any of those web sites to get more specific data.  These links are somewhat better than the Weather Channel because the NOAA is usually the source of weather data for all weather reporting agencies (at least the free ones).

Good luck, folks.  Remember to fuel up your chain saw and have extra gas ready.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 27, 2011, 07:22:07 PM
Sam Calagione is on the news talking about the preparations they made at Dogfish Head for the storm.  They filled the empty outdoor fermenters with water to help hold them in place - good idea.

My sister NE of Raleigh has several trees down, but that's it so far.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 27, 2011, 07:26:00 PM
The officials need to be careful about over-stating the dangers.  You can have a boy-who-cried-wolf effect.

Next time people may not heed the warnings, if this time they are too dire.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: Hokerer on August 27, 2011, 07:40:55 PM
Biggest result of her fury here is that she cut short our scout campout.  We were camping in the National Park and they made us evac by noon.  Would have been fun to see which of the kids floated away :)

Shenandoah National Park?  I spent a lot of time there in my Scouting days.

Maybe they could have gotten their Mile Swim Patch  ;)

Sorry for the hijack.  Just curious.

Probably would have been Ok in Shenandoah as it's west and higher altitude.  We were in Prince William Forest Park which is east and lower.  Never had so many visits by rangers before - guess they really wanted to make sure we left plus we were about the only idiots in the park by then.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: loopy on August 27, 2011, 08:32:45 PM
Quote from: hokerer
Never had so many visits by rangers before - guess they really wanted to make sure we left plus we were about the only idiots in the park by then.
I imagine they wanted you gone so they could close it up and go take care of their own houses and families. 


Quote from: nick
Sounds like you're involved with load dispatch.  Not sure what you mean by "spares."
From my experience, after the storm has passed, generation capacity is not the problem.  Power plants usually weather the storm well.  It is transmission, and particularly distribution infrastructure that suffer the most damage.  The plants can generate all the power needed, there is just nowhere to send it.

No we are generation, by spares, I meant cisco routers and switches and Verizon/Sprint/ATT 3g HWICS, satellite broadband equip, ups's.  Many of the plants are in remoteish areas and literally rely on the telephone poles running down the road for T1 service.  The existing 3G antennas may well get blown off the building.  It is expected that we will lose network connectivity with plants and need to be able to get them back online quickly.  We went through the same thing a few months back with the massive tornadoes that spun though Georgia and that area.  Getting network back online is critical because the power is sold into exchanges which requires connectivty from the tradefloor and the regulatory agencies in the grid. 
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: MDixon on August 27, 2011, 09:51:06 PM
In case anyone needs a list of what you need for a hurricane, here it is in a nutshell -
Water - enough to last until your power comes back on
Ice - to keep the things you need to keep cold, cold
Gas - full tank, no less
CASH - you cannot get gas in the aftermath of a hurricane without it
Flashlight - fresh batteries

Now the key is if they say evacuate, evacuate. I got the front wall, side wall, and back wall of Fran for 12 HOURS back in the day. If they even hint it's coming my way I am gone. Not scared of much, but Hurricanes don't play!

Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 28, 2011, 02:37:18 AM
Strong wind gusts. Trees are whipping back and forth. Water is seeping into my cellar. Lights are flickering. Tornado warnings just north of me in New Castle, DE. Pretty scary right now. We're pretty lucky so far as over a million without power, knock on wood. I just poured an Oak aged RIS. Might need to break out some bourbon to calm my nerves. Hopefully I'll make it through the night without losing power.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: euge on August 28, 2011, 02:59:08 AM
Strong wind gusts. Trees are whipping back and forth. Water is seeping into my cellar. Lights are flickering. Tornado warnings just north of me in New Castle, DE. Pretty scary right now. We're pretty lucky so far as over a million without power, knock on wood. I just poured an Oak aged RIS. Might need to break out some bourbon to calm my nerves. Hopefully I'll make it through the night without losing power.

Cheers.

What precautions have you taken? Good luck man...
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 28, 2011, 07:57:35 AM
Strong wind gusts. Trees are whipping back and forth. Water is seeping into my cellar. Lights are flickering. Tornado warnings just north of me in New Castle, DE. Pretty scary right now. We're pretty lucky so far as over a million without power, knock on wood. I just poured an Oak aged RIS. Might need to break out some bourbon to calm my nerves. Hopefully I'll make it through the night without losing power.

Cheers.
Update us when you can Ron.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 28, 2011, 03:10:48 PM
We made it through the hurricane unscathed.

A rather large leak formed in the house from wind driven rain. Rain was coming down in huge sheets from the NE side of the house. Half of the floor carpeting was saturated and the water traveled to the cellar behind my kegerater. I have the carpets pulled up and fans blowing to dry out the room. The pool is loaded with leaves and twigs and the yard is covered in debris. There was a tornado that touched down about 3 miles from my house but thankfully it missed us. We didn't lose power but had a few surges.

I'm glad that is over.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: MDixon on August 28, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Now envision that as a Cat 3 thru 5...it's an experience no one wants to experience ;)

Glad all is well and the thing is being downgraded!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: denny on August 28, 2011, 05:44:19 PM
Good to hear you made it through relatively unscathed, Ron.  Hope others fared as well.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 28, 2011, 05:53:23 PM
My brother in NJ still has no power at his house, but that's just a minor inconvenience.  No real damage at his house, and as longs as the lakes don't overflow it will be fine.

Glad you came through ok Ron.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: 1vertical on August 28, 2011, 06:28:46 PM
Good on ya Ron  !   
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: euge on August 28, 2011, 06:30:35 PM
Whew!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: MrNate on August 28, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
Power just came back on here.

Ended up with about 6" of water in the basement - The sump pump just couldn't keep up.

Looks like my 3-day-old water heater may be hosed.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tonyp on August 28, 2011, 09:26:43 PM
we're about 15min from the ocean and all i can say is meh, I've been thru much worse. Other than some wind and rain it was quite unspectacular. never lost power, no flooding, nothing.

I did have to clean some branches out of the driveway tho!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 28, 2011, 09:31:05 PM
Funny, my dad in NJ just lost power for the first time.  Maybe someone hit a pole or a branch fell on a wire.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 28, 2011, 09:51:41 PM
Insurance-wise it is important to know the difference between rising water (flooding) and wind-driven leaking.  Rising water damage is only covered by Federal Flood Insurance.

Homeowners insurance companies are going to be VERY picky about how they pay on damages from this storm.  They are going to be taking a major hit.  Even though I had replacement cost coverage, and no flood damage, I only received a fraction of the cost to repair the damage done to my home by the hurricanes of 2004.

Be sure to take lots of pictures of your damage and document it as much as possible.  It will probably be necessary to make repairs long before an insurance assessor/adjuster can inspect your damages.   Document, document, document!  Get receipts for everything.

It sucks that it's that way, but that is the reality of it.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 29, 2011, 12:08:28 AM
Insurance-wise it is important to know the difference between rising water (flooding) and wind-driven leaking.  Rising water damage is only covered by Federal Flood Insurance.

Homeowners insurance companies are going to be VERY picky about how they pay on damages from this storm.  They are going to be taking a major hit.  Even though I had replacement cost coverage, and no flood damage, I only received a fraction of the cost to repair the damage done to my home by the hurricanes of 2004.

Be sure to take lots of pictures of your damage and document it as much as possible.  It will probably be necessary to make repairs long before an insurance assessor/adjuster can inspect your damages.   Document, document, document!  Get receipts for everything.

It sucks that it's that way, but that is the reality of it.

I am planning to contact my Homeowners Insurace company tomorrow. I want to see if they'll cover the replacement of the flooring/carpeting that was saturated from wind driven rain.

I took some pics and have adequate evidence but it will depend on how they stipulate this specific damage in the policy.

Fingers crossed.

Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: madscientist on August 29, 2011, 01:00:46 PM
In NJ pretty much all of my friends and family made it through unscathed.  No power loss, only minor basement flooding if any.  The aftermath is that roads are closed everywhere and I can't make it into work.  Maybe a good thing?
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: theDarkSide on August 29, 2011, 08:32:05 PM
Pictures and video from my hometown of Windsor, VT:
(http://www.vnews.com/08292011/graphics/20110828-irene-jp-484.jpg)
This is a small dam on Kennedy's pond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTam7E85n_0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTam7E85n_0&feature=related)
Rte. 44 in the narrows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sqme34WtYM

This is a stream that feeds from Kennedy's ( Mill Pond ) and goes through part of the town, under several roadways, before dumping into the Connecticut River.


Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: MDixon on August 29, 2011, 08:36:21 PM
I heard VT was flooding badly. Stay safe...I'm sure lots of people think the storm was a 'cry wolf' moment...there are at least 10 or so who probably thought otherwise before they perished!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: theDarkSide on August 29, 2011, 08:39:55 PM
And a little further south from where I grew up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck7Xtxo2ZQU
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 29, 2011, 08:51:18 PM
How sad to see a 141 year old piece of history being washed away like that.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: euge on August 30, 2011, 04:38:16 AM
They're saying 27 dead at this point. Irene broke her back on the South. Just think if no-one had evacuated or done anything about it. Hell, 90 years ago it probably would have killed thousands.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 30, 2011, 05:07:23 AM
They're saying 27 dead at this point. Irene broke her back on the South. Just think if no-one had evacuated or done anything about it. Hell, 90 years ago it probably would have killed thousands.

Yeah, but she spilled her guts on New England.  That is an amazing amount of rainfall for the mainland!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: glastctbrew on August 30, 2011, 12:53:02 PM
Connectivity!   Lost power at about 7:15AM Sunday and its still out.  Had to get to my office in Western MA to get online.  Cooked the fridge Sunday night, the freezer last night and hoping power comes back before we run out of water in the tubs.  We're on a well so no power = no water.  I'm SOOO glad I didn't brew Saturday, the fermentation would be a cluster ...

Luckily, no family or friends suffered injury or damage to homes.  My thoughts to those who did.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 30, 2011, 03:21:50 PM
Connectivity!   Lost power at about 7:15AM Sunday and its still out.  Had to get to my office in Western MA to get online.  Cooked the fridge Sunday night, the freezer last night and hoping power comes back before we run out of water in the tubs.  We're on a well so no power = no water.  I'm SOOO glad I didn't brew Saturday, the fermentation would be a cluster ...

Luckily, no family or friends suffered injury or damage to homes.  My thoughts to those who did.

Wow...hope you get it back on soon. It's been tough for a lot of folks.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: morticaixavier on August 30, 2011, 03:56:51 PM
yeah all my folks in VT made it through allright as well, but they are having to drive all over heck and back to get anywhere with all the roads that washed out. Two covered bridges destroyed which is a real shame as there are fewer and fewer that are still operating. When I bring someone to VT to experience the flavour a covered bridge crossing is a must.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 30, 2011, 05:08:56 PM
My aunt and uncle near Albany NY still have no power.  They're using their generator periodically.  They had a big tree come down, but it missed the house.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: James Lorden on August 30, 2011, 05:26:25 PM
Power just came back on.  Daughter is on second day of cancelled school (how often does the first day of school get canceled? Probably the only day that the kids are actually looking forward to!).  Anyway, two days without power is not easy with two baby's and a six year old - especially living on well water.

Brewing equipment was esential - filled up empty kegs, buckets, and carboys.  Kids got a bath thanks to water heated in the  brew kettle.  5 gallon bottling bucket with a spigot at the bottom replaced the sink faucet in the kitchen.  Star San in a spray bottle was used extensively since hot water was at a premium...

Told the wife I need to buy more equipment ---- some day it could save our lives  ;D
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 30, 2011, 06:33:31 PM
Told the wife I need to buy more equipment ---- some day it could save our lives  ;D

Justifiable expenses.  :)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: MrNate on August 31, 2011, 12:35:16 PM
Good news everyone! Power is back on here. Came on late last night after 3 days of darkness.

Flooding was bad here. I was just about on an island except for one road. I managed to get out Sunday night and actually made it into Manville through the backroads, which is one of the hardest hit areas. Spent a couple days there helping out friends and family, coming back home periodically to repair my home systems and run fridges and pumps off the inverter on my Jeep.

I'll post up some pictures in a minute. For the curious, check out Google. Note the picture of the Army/NG UniMog fording water up past the windshield and the two hard top Hummers that were lost. It was BAD. At least half a dozen houses in the valley collapsed, all of them were underwater, most up to nearly the second floor.

Manville, NJ Irene Flood Pics (http://www.google.com/search?q=manville+nj+irene&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1343&bih=678&prmd=ivnscum&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=LileTrOfHqTw0gGezYiZAw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBYQ_AUoAQ)

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/298039_1502411736675_1725660128_767966_3150193_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310813_1500748175087_1725660128_765317_5908768_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316031_1502412456693_1725660128_767967_7601310_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/308712_1502413536720_1725660128_767968_2264817_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/316600_1503793291213_1725660128_769581_4540809_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 31, 2011, 01:33:12 PM
Good news everyone! Power is back on here. Came on late last night after 3 days of darkness.

Glad to hear the power finally came back on. This kind of event really makes one appreciate electricity.  :)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 31, 2011, 05:20:57 PM
Is anyone keeping an eye on Katia yet?
http://www.stormpulse.com/atlantic
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: James Lorden on August 31, 2011, 05:35:19 PM
make it stop!
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: pinnah on August 31, 2011, 05:48:53 PM
Wow, Mr. Nate.  Hang in there.  Guess you like your Jeep.



Is anyone keeping an eye on Katia yet?
http://www.stormpulse.com/atlantic

Cool link.  I love to watch radar.

Katia.
So is that pronounced Caught chya? 
I am thinking most 'mericans will call it Catie ah.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: MrNate on August 31, 2011, 06:00:22 PM
Wow, Mr. Nate.  Hang in there.  Guess you like your Jeep.

Yeah, I named her "Genny" yesterday :D

Wish I had one of these here LMTVs, though. Almost made it through...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6b54bZepoA
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: theDarkSide on August 31, 2011, 06:08:43 PM
Is anyone keeping an eye on Katia yet?
http://www.stormpulse.com/atlantic
I went to college with a girl named Katia.  She pronounced it "Ka-tee-ah"
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: bluesman on August 31, 2011, 06:35:21 PM
Is anyone keeping an eye on Katia yet?
http://www.stormpulse.com/atlantic

Yes...I have the Hurricane Tracker app on my iphone. I am checking twice a day.

Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: andrew on August 31, 2011, 06:35:58 PM
Is anyone keeping an eye on Katia yet?
http://www.stormpulse.com/atlantic

Katia probably won't be a problem, most models show a trough along the east coast kicking the storm out to sea. Of course it's a week out and things could change. What more people may need to watch is what's moving into the gulf, but at least Texas and Louisiana may get some rain out of it.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: tschmidlin on August 31, 2011, 06:44:21 PM
Is anyone keeping an eye on Katia yet?
http://www.stormpulse.com/atlantic
I went to college with a girl named Katia.  She pronounced it "Ka-tee-ah"
I've heard Kah-tee-uh on the news, and also Kat-chya.  Kat-chya seems to be preferred.

Katia probably won't be a problem, most models show a trough along the east coast kicking the storm out to sea.
Of course they don't mention that on the news, or else there is really no story.
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: andrew on August 31, 2011, 06:48:06 PM
Katia probably won't be a problem, most models show a trough along the east coast kicking the storm out to sea.
Of course they don't mention that on the news, or else there is really no story.

Exactly... Must have suspense
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: pinnah on August 31, 2011, 07:10:48 PM
Furious Nature.  Insurance companies are tracking it.


(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/munich_re_2010_natcat_review7-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Irene's fury
Post by: punatic on August 31, 2011, 08:08:31 PM
make it stop!

That's what I said in 2004.  It didn't do any good.