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Title: Without a second thought
Post by: euge on August 27, 2011, 05:11:51 AM
Wanted Shiner. There was a 12-pack of cans for $13 on the shelf. Turned around and spied a cold 12-pack of Newcastle Brown Ale for $14 in the cooler.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 27, 2011, 12:12:51 PM
Support the local brewery.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: tonyp on August 27, 2011, 03:35:30 PM
I happen to love newcastle, and so does my wife, its our go-to beer for "lets have a beer with dinner" when flying fish farmhouse ale isnt available, which is our new favorite.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: ynotbrusum on August 27, 2011, 04:04:22 PM
Nothing is finer than a nice cold Shiner.  I love the bock and the blond ale.

Nothing against Newcastle, but I think it is a bit overpriced, considering the alternatives available at the same price (at least at my local market).
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: majorvices on August 27, 2011, 04:33:07 PM
Both are mediocre beers.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: maxieboy on August 27, 2011, 05:02:05 PM
Both are mediocre beers.

At best. I voted neither...
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: cheba420 on August 27, 2011, 05:10:19 PM
I would have drove to the next store but in Texas....that could mean travelling to a different county!! :)
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: dannyjed on August 27, 2011, 05:53:46 PM
What about your own beer?  We are hombrewers for crying out loud. ;)
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: bluesman on August 27, 2011, 06:05:14 PM
I like New Castle Brown and tried Shiner once but it wasn't memorable. I am a fan of supporting your local brewery so I would probably give Shiner another shot.  :)
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: punatic on August 27, 2011, 07:07:50 PM
Both are mediocre beers.

+1 
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: euge on August 27, 2011, 08:44:24 PM
Both are mediocre beers.

+1 


For the longest time it was BMC only in Texas and Shiner was basically the only departure from the pale lagers. This made it quite popular in Central Texas. Shiner is the favorite of my friend with the super-sophisticated and sensitive palate. He admits this is partially due to nostalgia. When he is flush with cash it's Shiner. Otherwise it's Lonestar on the menu.

I'm surprised to hear the dissing of Newcastle. Not a particularly complex beer but smooth and easy drinking.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: punatic on August 27, 2011, 09:05:43 PM
Both are mediocre beers.

+1 


I'm surprised to hear the dissing of Newcastle. Not a particularly complex beer but smooth and easy drinking.

Not disrespect for Newcastle, just not much enthusiasm either.  It invokes a beer-neutral response from me.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: majorvices on August 27, 2011, 09:54:00 PM
I like Newcastle well enough, it just isn't anything special IMO. I love Bock and Doppelbock so the fact that Shiner calls that beer a "Bock" really irks me. Neither of them are terrible beers, and I have carried Newcastle in the can back packing a few times. But out of those two beer, if they were the only two beer available, I'd pick SNPA.  ;)
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: tschmidlin on August 28, 2011, 07:25:29 AM
I'm not a fan of Shiner Bock.  I might be able to learn to like it, but Newki Brown would have to be my choice there.  Neither one comes anywhere near my top 500 beers though :-\
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: euge on August 28, 2011, 05:48:25 PM
Well guess the suspense should be dealt with: I went with the Newcastle- it was only a dollar more. :D The next day bought some Shiner to compare. Brown color and low BU's are about the same. Shiner in the can carries some of the old-world grain flavor that I just don't get from the bottle. Newcastle has light roasty caramel tones with a faintly sweet finish and I think it just plain drinks better.

Lately, when visiting the beer-aisle I'm starting to see the imports come down in price while the domestic craft beers have shot way up and are often more expensive. Kirin Ichiban is $6. The cheapest beer on the shelf.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: punatic on August 28, 2011, 06:46:46 PM
Kirin Ichiban is $6. The cheapest beer on the shelf.

I'm surprised they're not giving it away.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: euge on August 28, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
Kirin Ichiban is $6. The cheapest beer on the shelf.

I'm surprised they're not giving it away.

Such cynicism and snobbery. I'm surprised too puni...
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: majorvices on August 28, 2011, 07:36:15 PM
We are a hard crowd to please, that's for sure. But if I had the pleasure of stopping by your place Euge, and you opened me a Shiner Bock, I'd gladly accept it.  ;D
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: euge on August 28, 2011, 07:54:33 PM
LOL I'd be pleased to offer one as well as my homebrew!
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: punatic on August 28, 2011, 09:37:05 PM
Kirin Ichiban is $6. The cheapest beer on the shelf.

I'm surprised they're not giving it away.

Such cynicism and snobbery. I'm surprised too puni...

Have you tried Kirin?  A buck a can is price gouging.  Not wasting money is not cynicism and snobbery.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: phillamb168 on August 29, 2011, 06:43:03 AM
Kirin Ichiban is $6. The cheapest beer on the shelf.

I'm surprised they're not giving it away.

Such cynicism and snobbery. I'm surprised too puni...

Have you tried Kirin?  A buck a can is price gouging.  Not wasting money is not cynicism and snobbery.

I discovered a few tall boys of Kirin in the back of our milk shelf the other day. Put one in the fridge. No particular rush to drink it. 1,50E per can, so yeah, $6 is wayyy outta line.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: ynotbrusum on August 29, 2011, 08:18:15 PM
Reasonable palates can differ.  I like lighter beers for many a session.  I was on a big beer kick and a hoptastic run earlier on, but I have grown to like the "mediocre beers" that to my palate are nonetheless flavorful enough to justify consuming.  I make them regularly now and many of the commercial brands are suitable substitutes when my taps are empty.

Presently on tap:
Bo Knows Pils
Denny's RIPA
Jamil's Oktoberfest
Jamil's Oatmeal Stout

All are great tasting and none are Shiner or Newcastle clones. So, if I didn't have the Pils or Oktoberfest on tap when the mood hit for a lighter ale or lager, including a bock, I wouldn't hesitate to pick up a 12 pack of Shiner in cans or Newcastle in bottles.  Newcastle near me is just priced a few bucks more.
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: Al Equihua on August 29, 2011, 08:50:17 PM
months ago i was in a hurry to the market to get a six pack... my wife and kids where in the car and while i step out of the car i was thinking what should i pick. Have in mind Levitation from Stone and when i came up in the fridge, for the same price wa Shiner actually.. .and i think.. mm lets give hem a try...

big mistake, didn' like and i think i waste my 9 dlls!
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: Joe Sr. on August 29, 2011, 09:12:54 PM
I wasn't impressed by Shiner Bock.  Perhaps it's good and just doesn't live up to they hype?

Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: euge on August 30, 2011, 04:12:15 AM
I wasn't impressed by Shiner Bock.  Perhaps it's good and just doesn't live up to they hype?



It's not a bock obviously, but beloved by many anyway. Just a caramelly lager. Mediocre? A bit better than that but not outstanding by any means. The can tastes completely different from the bottle. Can't explain why.

Al, I'd have gone for the Stone if they were the same price- but even Schaefer is an import in Mexico. ;)
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: Al Equihua on August 30, 2011, 03:35:32 PM
Euge, nevest tasted Shaefer before haha, really!

I'm obviously talking about a market that was in San Diego and not in Mexico, is the advantage of living in the border and make a huge diference between th guys living in the south, with no chance of consuming no craft beer from here
So when I go to buy some groceries on the weekends I can take a six or twelve of beer

In the past I liked before reaching Duty free stores and carry Mexican beer such as Bohemia, xx lager for a cheaper price even in Mexico. I'm talking about a box of 24 bottles:  18 dlls Bohemia, Heineken 17 Dlls
Title: Re: Without a second thought
Post by: morticaixavier on August 30, 2011, 03:49:49 PM
I once paid the equivelent (with tip of course) of 10 USD for a bottle of corona. It was in the greek isles so it was for sure an import.