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Title: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: gmac on September 04, 2011, 11:29:54 PM
I'm looking for a good Guiness type stout recipe (all grain) to brew for the upcoming cold and dark winter months.  If anyone has one, can you please share?  I'm looking for something in a session style beer, not a Russian Imperial Stout.  That's just too strong for me...I know that there's been talk on here before about some guy with a brand new Ph.D that has a pretty good stout recipe but I'm not sure if it was ever posted.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: dzlater on September 05, 2011, 11:39:16 AM
Try this, I brewed it a few times. Very tasty, and a simple grain bill.
here is the link where I got the recipe  http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/Jamil/JamilsDryStout.htm (http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/Jamil/JamilsDryStout.htm)
here is the recipe:
Dry Stout

A ProMash Recipe Report
BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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16-A  Stout, Dry Stout

Min OG:  1.035   Max OG:  1.050
Min IBU:    30   Max IBU:    50
Min Clr:    35   Max Clr:    90  Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal):         6.00    Wort Size (Gal):    6.00
Total Grain (Lbs):       10.00
Anticipated OG:          1.042    Plato:             10.42
Anticipated SRM:          29.9
Anticipated IBU:          38.7
Brewhouse Efficiency:       70 %
Wort Boil Time:             90    Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate:      12.00    Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size:    7.32    Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity:      1.034    SG          8.60  Plato

Grain/Extract/Sugar

   %     Amount     Name                          Origin        Potential
SRM
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 70.0     7.00 lbs. Pale Malt Halcyon             Great Britain  1.038
3
 20.0     2.00 lbs. Flaked Barley                 America        1.032
2
 10.0     1.00 lbs. Roasted Barley                America        1.028
450
Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

Hops
   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil
Time
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  1.60 oz.    Goldings - E.K.                   Pellet   5.90  38.7  60 min.

Yeast
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White Labs WLP002 English Ale

Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step

Grain Lbs:   10.00
Water Qts:   13.00 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal:    3.25 - Before Additional Infusions

Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.30 - Before Additional Infusions

Saccharification Rest Temp : 152  Time:  60
Mash-out Rest Temp :         168  Time:  10
Sparge Temp :                170  Time:  60

Total Mash Volume Gal: 4.05 - Dough-In Infusion Only

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.



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Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tygo on September 05, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
The recipe above is pretty much what I do when I brew a stout.  Last time I added in a little pale chocolate to bump up the complexity a bit and it turned out really nice. 
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: oscarvan on September 05, 2011, 02:37:36 PM
Consider an American Brown Ale......very drinkable, and although not exactly Guinness, it "lives on the same street".....

http://hopville.com/recipe/575176/american-brown-ale-recipes/wooden-shoe-brown-ale
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: kgs on September 05, 2011, 04:59:28 PM
I've done McQuaker's Oatmeal Stout from Brewing Classic Styles, and it was great. I toasted half the oats and added a cold extract of high-quality decaf french roast (Peet's) at bottling. It's a very accessible, quaffable beer that nonetheless feels very winter-appropriate.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 05, 2011, 08:54:06 PM
I think I posted it, but here it is again.  The latest time I was out of flaked barley so I subbed flaked oats.  It turned out nice, the neighbors were over drinking it last night.

For 10 gallons
13 lbs Maris Otter
2 lbs flaked oats
1.75 lbs black barley
130 grams Sonnet Goldings, 4.1% alpha, 60 minutes
S-04

Mash at 150F.  OG 1.046.  I didn't measure the FG of the one I kegged, it's usually around 1.012.  I'll check the other carboy after I get a new thief (broke mine a few weeks back).
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: jaybeerman on September 06, 2011, 12:00:28 AM
S-04

+1.  very drinkable stuff, the rest is pretty standard for an easy drinking stout
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 06, 2011, 01:43:41 AM
Yeah, it's nothing fancy in the recipe, although I think an English base malt is important.  Mine looks pretty similar to the one listed above with the Halcyon.  I'm sure the liquid yeast would be fine/great, but I like to keep S-04 on hand for this beer and it does a good job.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: gmac on September 06, 2011, 04:05:05 AM
Thanks Tom.  I'll be giving yours a try next week with the exception of the yeast.  I have WLP002 ready to go so I'm gonna give that a try.  It's the only thing I have on hand anyway so it'll have to do.  I've been saving 15 lbs of Maris Otter for a stout so I should be good.
Just to clarify, when you say "black barley", do you mean black patent or roasted barley?  Or is this something more obscure that I'm not familiar with?
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 06, 2011, 04:14:16 AM
Sorry, I should have been more specific.  To me black barley is roasted barley, unmalted.

I'm sure using WLP002 will give you a good result, I've fermented the same recipe with both 1056 and US-05 and it was still good.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: gmac on September 09, 2011, 01:47:13 PM
Just got looking at available specialty malt on hand and I've only got 1 lb of roasted barley but I've got a lb of chocolate as well so I'm gonna blend Tom's recipe and Tygo's and do 0.75 lbs of Chocolate with the 1 lb roasted.  Anyone see a problem with this? 
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 09, 2011, 03:27:15 PM
For 10 gallons?  Other than the chocolate malt flavor, no problem. ;)

I think it will be a noticeably different beer, but it will still be good.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: gmac on September 09, 2011, 03:40:38 PM
Tom - stupid me I never noticed yours was a 10 gal recipe.  That may have been important.

The wheels have fallen off my plans.  I gave my starter a swirl this morning and something didn't smell quite right so I took a good whiff.  Vinegar smell is definitely there.  This is a starter I was building up from a previous pitch.

So, assuming the yeast in my ESB is good (no smell apparent right now), I'll do this next week when I harvest the slurry from what I have now. 
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 09, 2011, 04:22:36 PM
Ah, well, no harm done.  Good thing you smelled the starter, eh?

So you have enough that you don't need to add the chocolate, but let us know what you decide on for the recipe and how you like it when it's done.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tygo on September 09, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
Don't be afraid of throwing a little chocolate in there  ;D

Maybe a little peated malt too  ;)

(the last one is a joke of course)
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: denny on September 09, 2011, 05:50:25 PM
Just a reminder..a great place to look for (or post) recipes is the AHA recipe wiki....

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/BeerRecipes
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 09, 2011, 06:17:07 PM
No pressure though, right D?  :)

I posted the recipe there, with flaked barley listed since that is what I normally use.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: denny on September 09, 2011, 06:17:43 PM
No pressure though, right D?  :)

I posted the recipe there, with flaked barley listed since that is what I normally use.

Pressure?  Me???
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 09, 2011, 06:20:07 PM
No pressure though, right D?  :)

I posted the recipe there, with flaked barley listed since that is what I normally use.

Pressure?  Me???
Tiny bit. ;)
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: gmac on September 09, 2011, 06:33:18 PM
I looked there first Denny.  I didn't find anything with Tom's name on it which is why I asked.  I almost always check that first.  I do find a lot of recipes get talked about but far fewer end up in the wiki. 
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: denny on September 09, 2011, 06:38:34 PM
I looked there first Denny.  I didn't find anything with Tom's name on it which is why I asked.  I almost always check that first.  I do find a lot of recipes get talked about but far fewer end up in the wiki. 

Good on ya, Graham!  Hopefully, people who discuss recipes on this forum will post them on the wiki more often.  Makes things a lot easier to find in the future.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 09, 2011, 07:10:00 PM
Should the submitter's name be included in the title?
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: gmac on September 09, 2011, 07:18:33 PM
If I'd remembered the "irish neighbour" story, I'd have remembered it was in there under that name but on some recipes, when you open them you can see who submitted it and on others you can't. 

I would like to see an inclusion of the submitters name in the recipe, not necessarily in the title.  It's not necessary but if you're looking at two recipes and ones by Denny and ones by me, you can probably be more confident that the Denny one will be good.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: denny on September 09, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
If I'd remembered the "irish neighbour" story, I'd have remembered it was in there under that name but on some recipes, when you open them you can see who submitted it and on others you can't. 

I would like to see an inclusion of the submitters name in the recipe, not necessarily in the title.  It's not necessary but if you're looking at two recipes and ones by Denny and ones by me, you can probably be more confident that the Denny one will be good.

You may be giving me too much credit, Graham!  I try to include my name with the recipe, though.

Tom, in the title would be fine, but I do think it's important that the submitter's name is in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: weithman5 on September 09, 2011, 07:59:19 PM
  It turned out nice, the neighbors were over drinking it last night.
).

need any new neighbors?

+1 to posting recipes in the wiki.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: gmac on September 10, 2011, 01:30:03 AM
So how does one decide if a recipe is wiki-worthy?  For example, I have an amber ale recipe that I made up that I really like and so do my friends and I made a spiced saison that everyone who's tried it thinks is great.  But, neither of these have ever won anything so they don't really have any creditentials to back them up.  Maybe what I'm thinking is Amber is actually a Brown Ale or some other thing. 
I notice a lot of the beers on the wiki have won awards.  It seems to be the ones that haven't that get talked about but never posted.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: tschmidlin on September 10, 2011, 08:06:49 AM
I added my name to the title, that may make it easier.

How do I decide if it's worthy?  I don't know, the Seamus has never won an award, but then I've never entered it.  There are a lot of recipe sites where the recipes are all crap, and it would be a shame if the wiki turned into that.  But if you have one or two that you are really proud of or if people keep asking for them, I think it is appropriate to put them there.  And that's not just you, I wouldn't want it to be a collection of Gordon/Denny/Drew recipes either. 

But maybe that's just me, it can be whatever the group wants it to be.
Title: Re: Wanted: Stout Recipe
Post by: kgs on September 10, 2011, 12:46:30 PM
Just a reminder..a great place to look for (or post) recipes is the AHA recipe wiki....

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/BeerRecipes

I've been on this forum long enough to recognize trustworthy names, but in terms of using recipes, unless they have a lot of detail, they don't have enough context for me.