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Title: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: Caddywhompusbeer on October 02, 2011, 03:40:11 PM
I brewed a belgian strong golden ale yesterday and my pickup tube took a good portion of the hops and trub. I'd like to get a new pickup tube that collects from the side so I can whirlpool, but for now I'm stuck with one that goes almost to the center of my keggle and a few centimeters from the bottom. What I'm wondering is will the trub & hops now in my carboy have a negative effect on the flavor/aroma of the beer? I know theres a debate about trub in the fermenter, but what about the hops? Also, is there anything I can do in the meantime to prevent picking up too many hops & trub?
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: tom on October 02, 2011, 03:49:52 PM
1. for the "cleanest" flavor you can transfer the beer to another fermenter after the trub has settled.

2. I use a 1/2" street elbow inside the kettle and a Bazooka screen along the perimeter.  I whirlpool the wort and let it settle in the center for at least 15 minutes.  Then transfer from the side.

Cheers
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: bluesman on October 02, 2011, 04:40:09 PM
This is an ongoing debate. I like to remove most of the trub upon transfer but some trub is good for yeast health and development during fermentation.

Tom's suggestion of allowing the trub to settle after cooling, then racking into a second carboy, leaving the trub behind is a sound method that I use from time to time. Much of the trub will settle in about 30 min.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: Caddywhompusbeer on October 02, 2011, 04:44:06 PM
Thats good to know for next time. I already pitched the yeast though.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: denny on October 02, 2011, 05:52:46 PM
I've seen at least one experiment by a homebrewer where the beer with the trub left in was preferred over one wit it removed.  I wouldn't worry about it if I was you.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: tubercle on October 02, 2011, 07:25:52 PM
I wouldn't worry about it if I was you.

 ^^^^^^one less thing to worry about.

 Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: tom on October 03, 2011, 12:57:50 AM
Thats good to know for next time. I already pitched the yeast though.
You can still transfer it off the trub until high kraeusen begins.
Carpe cerevisea!
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: morticaixavier on October 03, 2011, 01:54:31 AM
When I transfer I put a sanitized grain bag in the way to the fermenter and let all the trub and hop material catch in that. makes for a nice white yeast layer. but yeah don't worry about it and as others have said...
Seize The Fish!

Although you are apparently in favor of beering the fish which, frankly doesn't make any sense at all.  ;)
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: James Lorden on October 03, 2011, 07:37:35 PM
Although I am a trub separator, I think it's more of an issue if you intend to repitch the yeast. You don't want to carry grub from batch to batch.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: dannyjed on October 03, 2011, 08:27:30 PM
I've seen at least one experiment by a homebrewer where the beer with the trub left in was preferred over one wit it removed.  I wouldn't worry about it if I was you.
I agree, I usually get a little trub in my fermenter and I reuse my yeast.  I've had no problems.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: Caddywhompusbeer on October 09, 2011, 11:11:35 PM
Not planning on repitching it. Thanks for the input; not gonna worry about it.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: Caddywhompusbeer on October 11, 2011, 02:05:59 PM
Just ordered ingredients for a pliny clone. Gonna see if my keggle's pick up tube will allow me to whirlpool all that hop to the center. Been thinking about a new tube that picks up from the side but we'll see how my current one works for it.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: Pinski on October 11, 2011, 02:55:00 PM
Wow, that's gonna be one huge hop cone if it works. If I recall correctly you're looking at well over a pound of hops for a 10 gallon batch and that's befor dry hopping! Delicious and well worth it though! Good luck!
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: rjharper on October 11, 2011, 03:38:36 PM
Wow, that's gonna be one huge hop cone if it works. If I recall correctly you're looking at well over a pound of hops for a 10 gallon batch and that's befor dry hopping! Delicious and well worth it though! Good luck!

Use a hop bag. I brewed with 8oz of hops on Sunday (6oz pellet, and 2oz whole leaf) and royally plugged up my lines, so no whirlpool, and no pump out.  Had to siphon and scoop.  May be less of an issue with just pellets, but the whole leaf, or in my case whole cone, is just asking for a blockage.
Title: Re: pick up tube picked up most the trub
Post by: richardt on October 11, 2011, 04:59:06 PM
http://ihomebrewsolutions.com/images/stories/Articles/thehopstopper.pdf (http://ihomebrewsolutions.com/images/stories/Articles/thehopstopper.pdf)

Consider a Hop Stopper or Hop Blocker.

Could be a fun DIY project if you're so inclined.