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Title: crystal malt 45L
Post by: Caddywhompusbeer on October 10, 2011, 01:57:09 AM
I'm planning on a Pliny the Elder clone, and being very new to buying seperate AG ingredients I'm having trouble finding crystal malt 45L from Northern Brewer. I'm finding caramel 40L, and simpson's medium crystal @ 50-60L, but can't find a crystal 45L. Can someone either send me a link to what I need from NB, or tell me a substitute if it isn't available anymore. The 3 AG batches I've made so far were from NB kits but I'm looking to try recipes I come across that pique my interest, but I have trouble matching ingredient names very often.
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: a10t2 on October 10, 2011, 02:05:59 AM
The Cara 40 should be basically identical.
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: Hokerer on October 10, 2011, 02:22:25 AM
"Cara" and "Crystal" are basically the same thing.  As for the actual number, I'd go with Sean and just use the 40L.
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: narvin on October 10, 2011, 02:57:20 AM
I've seen Cara 45, it's the Belgian Caramunich from Dingemans.

http://www.cargill.com/food/na/en/products/malt/mouterij-dingemans/index.jsp

But, for a Pliny clone, I wouldn't worry about it.  I usually don't use American crystal malts in Belgian style beers, but I think that an American crystal 40 would be fine in any IPA.
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: Caddywhompusbeer on October 10, 2011, 03:14:45 AM
Think I'll go with the cara 40 like you guys suggested.

Thanks!
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: Pinski on October 10, 2011, 05:36:18 AM
I had great results with the 40 in my Pliny clone.
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: brushvalleybrewer on October 10, 2011, 10:39:12 AM
The "Light Crystal" from Crisp Maltings is 45L and tastes great. I get it from Rebel Brewer, but I'm sure it's available elsewhere.

Good luck with the Pliny clone.
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: a10t2 on October 10, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
I've seen Cara 45, it's the Belgian Caramunich from Dingemans.
The "Light Crystal" from Crisp Maltings is 45L and tastes great. I get it from Rebel Brewer, but I'm sure it's available elsewhere.

FWIW, I've found there to be a big difference between US, UK, and Belgian crystal malts. Getting the right flavors from it is going to be more important than a minor variation in color.
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: James Lorden on October 10, 2011, 10:59:53 PM
I've seen Cara 45, it's the Belgian Caramunich from Dingemans.
The "Light Crystal" from Crisp Maltings is 45L and tastes great. I get it from Rebel Brewer, but I'm sure it's available elsewhere.

FWIW, I've found there to be a big difference between US, UK, and Belgian crystal malts. Getting the right flavors from it is going to be more important than a minor variation in color.

Agreed, the UK malts tend to be more varied. They may average the number given but some kernels are darker and some are lighter.  This tends to gives more complexity but can also add some unwanted flavors depending on style
Title: Re: crystal malt 45L
Post by: Caddywhompusbeer on October 11, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
I went with Rahr caramel 40. Hopefully the flavor is about the same. Ive done 3 AG batches now so I don't know much about different grains yet. Either way, I know I'll like it. We don't get pliny anywhere near Okla so I don't have anything to compare with. Hope my ingredients get here in time to brew this Saturday.

I am very excited though  ;D