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Title: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: mabrungard on November 02, 2011, 01:22:12 PM
I've noticed that a lot of participants on this list hide behind an alias and they don't reveal who they are.  As far as I'm concerned, I don't feel that anyone that can't reveal their name can expect to be taken seriously.  Why would a reader assume that if someone is not willing to stand behind what they say, that they should be believed or taken seriously?  On top of this, I think that when you know that others know who you are, you're probably not going to act like an a$$ on the list. 

This is sort of along the lines that created the Rennerian coordinates on Homebrew Digest.  I believe it came from an attempt by Jeff Renner to get participants in that list to identify themselves and improve the factuality and civility of that list.  Fortunately, I haven't noted any uncivil manners on this list.  But it sure would be nice to know who my fellow list mates are. 

Stand up and let the world know who you are.  Put your name in your signature line and stand behind what you say!  You would not be alone.  The folks who only ADD content to this forum let you know who they are.
 
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: beersk on November 02, 2011, 01:36:35 PM
Are you mad about something man?  Did someone bully you?  I'm Jesse F*cking Stika, okay?  Big deal.  What's in a name?  More importantly, it's what's in a person.  Not a name.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: weithman5 on November 02, 2011, 01:40:24 PM
my name is listed. that said, i could just as easily make up a name and still act like an asshole. i actually enjoy most of the "handles"  but I do like seeing some link in that as to who they are. or the name and something about them in the posts.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: theDarkSide on November 02, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
Maybe some of us are in hiding from the governement for a crime we didn't commit.

So you can't take anyone serious unless you know their name, even if the information they give is sound?  I've had my first name and last initial in for over a year when someone else asked about this...can't guarantee the whole not acting like an ass thing however  ;D

Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Kit B on November 02, 2011, 01:55:11 PM
Kit B. aka Kit Butterfield
But, it will remain omitted from my signature.
If anyone wants to know, they can ask me politely.
I prefer that course, rather than someone demanding to see my papers.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: bo on November 02, 2011, 02:04:06 PM
Are you mad about something man?  Did someone bully you?  I'm Jesse F*cking Stika, okay?  Big deal.  What's in a name?  More importantly, it's what's in a person.  Not a name.

+1000
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: mabrungard on November 02, 2011, 02:06:52 PM
Nope! Nobody has bullied or spoken harshly up until you folks in this post.  Kind of sad I mentioned it.  Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: weithman5 on November 02, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
.  Kind of sad I mentioned it.  Very disappointing.

nothing to be sad about. as a mentioned. i tend to agree it is nice to at least have a first name. i just don't know it will modify anyones behavior. although i am more likely to be politer to people i think i know...

Maybe some of us are in hiding from the governement for a crime we didn't commit.


um yeah, didn't commit, ...
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: narvin on November 02, 2011, 02:12:13 PM
Just seems like sound practice on the internet, where everything is archived for life and searchable.  You slip up once and your post on rec.arts.sf.starwars about Luke Skywalker's lovers is there for God and everyone to read until the end of time.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: bo on November 02, 2011, 02:12:49 PM
Actually, I'm surprised than so many use their real names and real pictures in a forum that they are likely visiting during the day on company time. Not to mention, one that involves alcohol. You know how some people are.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: jamminbrew on November 02, 2011, 02:29:22 PM
I've always conducted myself as if my name were up there... But my handle is my persona, or alter-ego. It's part of who I am. And my pic is of me. If anyone ever wanted to know, just ask. But since we're putting it out there...  Ben Wilder
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: punatic on November 02, 2011, 02:43:31 PM
Hiding behind an alias? 
Not feeding data miners is more to the point.

Many of us prefer not to have everything we've ever written on the internet out there for anyone with a search engine to see - forever.  It kinda throws a wet blanket on the joking around with friends aspect of an informal forum.

On this forum, trolls get the message pretty quickly.  We're a friendly lot, and trollism is highly discouraged.

If you have a burning desire to know someone's name you can always send them a PM.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: andyi on November 02, 2011, 02:44:19 PM
So Martin,  was this post to smoke people out?

I always appreciate you contributions see that others also respect your experience.  I have seen disagreements but not sure I have seen any  posts giving you sh*t.

 I have left other forums because of dickishness and f*ckery but have not experienced that on this forum.  Folks are pretty good about calling things out

My first name is Andy, my alias DBear is short for Dancing Bear - a handle thats followed me since college -  because when I get hammered and try to dance i have the grace of a  demented circus bear.

If I had to sum myself up - I'm a'hell of a fun guy.

.  
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: ynotbrusum on November 02, 2011, 03:06:25 PM
Two words:  identity theft.  I am not savvy enough to know how to "lifelock" my information.  My name is the start of an information trail that could lead to someone posting something as if he were me that could be defamatory, inflammatory or simply degrading in a way that I would not tolerate.  If it is simply linked to my "name" used on this and the NB forum, people would quickly know (at least those who follow the forum and know my prior statements would have something to compare) to "dispel" the wrong quickly.  And if not, then it isn't attributed to my actual name for posterity.

Am I too paranoid? Perhaps.  I trust what I hear from those I hear from frequently here - and I appreciate the wonderful insights and civility I find here.  I do not intend to use my actual name here, though I have shared it with those whom I have PM'd on issues.  I trust that they will not disclose that unnecessarily.

Just how I roll....


 :-X
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: MDixon on November 02, 2011, 03:06:50 PM
I'm pretty easy to figure out, but prefer to be a little anonymous to those unwilling to spend the time to decipher who I might be and what my contribution is or might be to the homebrewing and judging community. My $0.02.

FWIW - On the various forums I frequent I generally go by three different names. The one here and on most homebrew sites is pretty easy. My other two are not quite as easy to figure out and I kinda like it that way ;)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: euge on November 02, 2011, 03:11:23 PM
The AHA forum is well moderated. +a billion!

Internet "handles" or aliases are traditional. So I see no harm in them. Just because someone brews beer does not make them a stand up guy. There are malcontents and creepy mental misfits out there that can do some real damage if they get a hold of any sort of personal information. And they like to brew beer apparently. And cause trouble for other people the rest of the time.

I for one will always be- euge.

BTW that's what my friends call me. ;)

Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: tubercle on November 02, 2011, 03:14:45 PM
Not going M to use my real A name here or anywhere R else on the K net.


An certainly don't expect me to post my email address, phone number or personal home page. If you don't already have it then you don't need it.

 Not because I have anything to hide, matter of fact there is an open invitation to come visit (see moonshiner's reunion post) and I'm the one that started the picture post including the lovely and talented Ms. Tubercle.

---The Tubercle
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Joe Sr. on November 02, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
Just seems like sound practice on the internet, where everything is archived for life and searchable.

I dropped my last name for just this reason.  Not that I much care if you all know who I am, but I don't like the searchability thing for someone randomly googling my name.

If you read the TT Digest, you'll note I've never been shy about my name or where I'm from.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: punatic on November 02, 2011, 03:16:20 PM
The AHA forum is well moderated. +a billion!

I for one will always be- euge.

BTW that's what my friends call me. ;)


Oh man...  you mean you're not really named home style?   ::)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: euge on November 02, 2011, 03:18:44 PM
The AHA forum is well moderated. +a billion!

I for one will always be- euge.

BTW that's what my friends call me. ;)


Oh man...  you mean you're not really named home style?   ::)

LOL I ought to look into that! ;D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: morticaixavier on November 02, 2011, 03:19:12 PM
I have to warn all you folks that are leary of being searchable. you already are. almost certainly your name is out there somewhere. On profesional organization websites, licencing information etc. Not to mention all the supposedly 'secure' internet contiguous databases (Think DMV, Student loans, online gaming, free webmail, etc.) and the really worrisome folks are already worming their way into that stuff. Data mining is mostly just a way to get your name on sales lists.

That being said I believe I have my real name on my signature line or somewhere if no

Jonathan Fuller

or, if your interested in my dramatic exploits

Jonathan Vittum

**EDIT** okay I was wrong it's not on my sig line, damn, now everyone knows who I am!!!!
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: chezteth on November 02, 2011, 03:20:43 PM
I seem to  understand where Martin is coming from.  Too many people in forums seem to use the internet to act like a jerk where they may otherwise not have done so in person.  Using your actual name may help hinder many people from acting that way.  I realize each person has their reason for using an alias.  I have used mine from the days of dial-up when I could only use an 8 character logon.  My alias is short for "cheese and teeth".  First name Brandon Last name Kolbe ( thus cheese )   :)

Cheers,
Brandon
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: dbeechum on November 02, 2011, 03:40:46 PM
I don't know.. I like having an alias. I dare you to find out who I am! :)

Actually, I approach the security thing from the opposite side of the fence - I flood the net with my name and information - it becomes harder to data mine in that sense. Besides as has already been pointed out - your information is out there already at least to anyone with $15 in their pocket.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Mark G on November 02, 2011, 03:54:38 PM
Interesting discussion. I'm not really worried about the security of my name on a forum. Like others have said, it's not too hard to get a lot more information than that with a little effort. The way I see it, if I were to meet one of you at a homebrew function, or at a pub, I'd introduce myself with my name. Is it that much different here?

Disclaimer: This forum is one of the most civil out there.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: oscarvan on November 02, 2011, 04:15:02 PM
My name is Giggelzeit B. Shtoonk but I use Oscar because it's easier to pronounce.....
























(A VERY obscure reference to MAD magazine, undoubtedly mangled having been locked up in my brain for 45+ years.....)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: firedog23 on November 02, 2011, 04:38:17 PM
This is an issue?  Seriously, this is an issue?  You may need to find a new hobby.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Joe Sr. on November 02, 2011, 04:52:40 PM
Besides as has already been pointed out - your information is out there already at least to anyone with $15 in their pocket.

This is really less of a concern for me than the random mopes who might google my name (present company excluded).

Google me and you'll get Linked In, an old letter I wrote to BYO and not too much else of any substance.  Which is how I prefer it.

Not that I'm anti-social or anything.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: euge on November 02, 2011, 05:02:17 PM
I searched my full name and found a few tidbits of info- nothing too concerning. But did a search on my "alias" and found this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge) ::)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Hokerer on November 02, 2011, 05:21:54 PM
I searched my full name and found a few tidbits of info- nothing too concerning. But did a search on my "alias" and found this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge) ::)

Definition #4 being the important one?  :)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: BrewingRover on November 02, 2011, 05:33:32 PM
I searched my full name and found a few tidbits of info- nothing too concerning. But did a search on my "alias" and found this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge) ::)
You added #2, right  ;D

I like to keep my professional stuff and my hobbies separate, so I have multiple personas on the web. There's one forum I frequent that I wouldn't linked back to me, so it's its own thing completely.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: euge on November 02, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
I do not remember taking my clothes off. I swear. :o
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: James Lorden on November 02, 2011, 05:46:30 PM
My real name is jlord8724 but I don't need the world knowing that so I came up with James Lorden to hide my true identity. I guess the cats out of the bag now.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: euge on November 02, 2011, 05:50:30 PM
My real name is jlord8724 but I don't need the world knowing that so I came up with James Lorden to hide my true identity. I guess the cats out of the bag now.

Well it's nice to finally know the truth about you jlord8724...
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: corkybstewart on November 02, 2011, 06:05:12 PM
Believe it or not Corky is not my real name-that will remain hidden.  But I've been called Corky since I was a month old, that's the name that shows up in the phone book.  To everybody I'm Corky Stewart, but I still sign most legal documents with my real name.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: bluesman on November 02, 2011, 06:09:14 PM
I think using an alias can be a vehicle by which one gains a sense of security, in that it creates anonymity. I think an alias can also create a sense of pride in one's character. I find that using an alias is just a handle. There are more and more folks using aliases and it seems to be more the norm but I'm not counting.

I think there are other reasons for using an alias, of which some have been previously stated, but overall I find it to be the way of the great wide world of the interwebs. Some like to remain anonymous and others want you to know who they are and where they came from.


 



Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Wheat_Brewer on November 02, 2011, 06:38:44 PM
.  Kind of sad I mentioned it.  Very disappointing.

nothing to be sad about. as a mentioned. i tend to agree it is nice to at least have a first name. i just don't know it will modify anyones behavior. although i am more likely to be politer to people i think i know...

Maybe some of us are in hiding from the governement for a crime we didn't commit.


um yeah, didn't commit, ...

I've never meet a single person in jail that's guilty! Until they sober up and realize...ya we're all guilty, and in need of a shower...but not that kind of shower!  Moving on...moving on...

I don't hide behind an alias, I'm professing my love for wheat beers! I always give my first name at the end of my posts.

Cheers!
Casey
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Wheat_Brewer on November 02, 2011, 06:41:10 PM
I searched my full name and found a few tidbits of info- nothing too concerning. But did a search on my "alias" and found this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge) ::)

Are you serious?! That's not even a real phrase!

Casey
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: johnf on November 02, 2011, 06:44:35 PM
I didn't really choose my username to obfuscate my identity (John Fowler, C0817, don't have my AHA number memorized), but because it is shorter than my full name. I could put my full name in my signature but I think if you know me you know who I am on here and if you don't know me then why would my name make you take what I say more seriously?

I suppose you are talking more about the IDrinkDarkLordInMyMomsBasement type usernames than the JohnF type but ultimately I don't know 95% of the people on here and 95% don't know me and so the anonymous is fine with me.

Sometimes people can be more known by their internet handle than their real name and you can have the reverse situation where it is valuable to know their internet handle if you ever meet in person, but I digress.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: euge on November 02, 2011, 06:49:51 PM
I searched my full name and found a few tidbits of info- nothing too concerning. But did a search on my "alias" and found this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Euge) ::)

Are you serious?! That's not even a real phrase!

Casey

I'm surprised as you are.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: tygo on November 02, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
As a wise friend of mine once put it, "My online footprint is big enough as it is."  

Same reason I don't use facebook.

If I can't be taken seriously because of the use of an alias I guess I'll just have to live with that.

Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: gymrat on November 02, 2011, 07:16:07 PM
Thank-you punatic. I don't care to show up in search engines. If that makes what I have to say without credibility then don't read my posts. There are plenty of helpful people here who will interact with me minus the demand of my identity.


Hiding behind an alias? 
Not feeding data miners is more to the point.

Many of us prefer not to have everything we've ever written on the internet out there for anyone with a search engine to see - forever.  It kinda throws a wet blanket on the joking around with friends aspect of an informal forum.

On this forum, trolls get the message pretty quickly.  We're a friendly lot, and trollism is highly discouraged.

If you have a burning desire to know someone's name you can always send them a PM.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: kgs on November 02, 2011, 08:01:08 PM
kgs is a handle I use in many places--whenever I can. 2/3 of it is my family nickname (KG or Kaygee) -- better than my other family nickname, which is Pooh Bear :-) . Not trying to hide... I just like short handles and like to be consistent.

I've been on online forums since 1990, and have been moderating a very large Internet forum since 1996. AHA is one of the nicer places to hang out. Folks here generally turn the other cheek, and are helpful.

-- Karen (aka kgs)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: anthony on November 02, 2011, 08:26:41 PM
I suppose you are talking more about the IDrinkDarkLordInMyMomsBasement type usernames than the JohnF type but ultimately I don't know 95% of the people on here and 95% don't know me and so the anonymous is fine with me.

I am intrigued by this IDrinkDarkLordInMyMomsBasement user and would like to subscribe to his newsletter... got a link?
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on November 02, 2011, 08:31:48 PM
I do not know how about you but I like my handle. If I would like to use my full name I would do it in first place. If you are ever in Eau Claire WI let me know. I will even give you my phone number.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: punatic on November 02, 2011, 08:43:00 PM
Boy, did Martin kick a hornets' nest or what?  

No worries Martin.  We still think you rock.  You bring a lot of good stuff to the table!

If we all thought the same way, we'd all be drinking American Light Lager.  Then there would be every reason to hide behind an alias!   ;D

As one of my favorite sayings goes, "I don't care what you call me, just don't call me late for dinner!"
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: theoman on November 03, 2011, 01:25:37 AM
Hiding behind an alias? 
Not feeding data miners is more to the point.

Many of us prefer not to have everything we've ever written on the internet out there for anyone with a search engine to see - forever.  It kinda throws a wet blanket on the joking around with friends aspect of an informal forum.

On this forum, trolls get the message pretty quickly.  We're a friendly lot, and trollism is highly discouraged.

If you have a burning desire to know someone's name you can always send them a PM.

+1

I have no problem with anyone on here knowing my real name, it's the rest of the world I'd like to keep it from (or make it a bit more difficult for). I'm a member of a private forum that has my name all over it. I have no problem with that. This one is just a bit too public.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: theDarkSide on November 03, 2011, 05:29:51 AM
I don't know.. I like having an alias. I dare you to find out who I am! :)
I always thought your forum picture looks like Kevin Smith.

My alias represents my love of two things, Star Wars and dark beer, mostly stouts.

I also like Abba but I thought "dancingqueen" would be a little odd for a forum name  :D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: bluesman on November 03, 2011, 05:33:20 AM

No worries Martin.  We still think you rock.  You bring a lot of good stuff to the table!


+1

Hope you aren't offended by any of the remarks. There's obviously some strong feelings on this one.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: davidw on November 03, 2011, 07:20:28 AM
This post has convinced me to change my user name from my real name to an alias. I am a wanted man in Australia, after all . . .
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: bo on November 03, 2011, 07:22:33 AM
This post has convinced me to change my user name from my real name to an alias. I am a wanted man in Australia, after all . . .

I'm using my nickname and thinking of doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: 1vertical on November 03, 2011, 07:27:11 AM
Just seems like sound practice on the internet, where everything is archived for life and searchable.  You slip up once and your post on rec.arts.sf.starwars about Luke Skywalker's lovers is there for God and everyone to read until the end of time.
+1
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: rjharper on November 03, 2011, 07:50:45 AM
This forum is one of the friendliest and helpful I've seen.  On some forums, trolls and folks trying to start a flame war hide behind their anonymity, but here we seem to be able to keep that kind of thing down.  I don't care if I dont know the real name of majorvices, or punatic, or tubercle, or weaz or bluesman, or euge, or whoever else (and I know many of you like me have your name in the signature), because I know that when I see a post from a handle I recognize, I'm getting good advice, or sharing a good story, with a friend in the hobby.  If there's a troll from a new user with an obscure handle, ignore and move on...
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: beersk on November 03, 2011, 08:15:37 AM
Well, I just think that an alias is as good as a real name.  A name is just a label.  What matters most is who the person is, the information they bring to the table, the personality they present.  I act the same way on this forum as I do in real life.  It's very easy to say things on the internet that you wouldn't in reality, but I try to think of these forums as if I'm friends with all of you guys and act as if I would if we were all in a room or bar hanging out.  Sometimes I'm crude, sometimes I'm loud, sometimes I'm goofy, sometimes I don't say anything at all.  That wouldn't change if I knew your name or not.  If I met you in person, I'd still connect you with your alias, whether it is your real name or a made up name.  It's just a label.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: a10t2 on November 03, 2011, 08:20:37 AM
As far as I'm concerned, I don't feel that anyone that can't reveal their name can expect to be taken seriously.  Why would a reader assume that if someone is not willing to stand behind what they say, that they should be believed or taken seriously?

What do you have against someone being able to choose their own name? If someone doesn't like the name their parents chose for them and goes through the process to legally change it, do you take them less seriously?
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: narvin on November 03, 2011, 08:27:12 AM
I met SiameseMoose at AHA this year, but I have no idea what his real name is.  Aside from calling a grown man SiameseMoose, there was no impersonality or other downside to using a handle.

And I agree with most of the other posters here.  If you want to know my full name or drop by for a homebrew if you're in town, just ask :-)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Jimmy K on November 03, 2011, 08:40:33 AM
This post has convinced me to change my user name from my real name to an alias. I am a wanted man in Australia, after all . . .

What are they going to do? Send you to Australia?
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Slowbrew on November 03, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
I've always figured using an alias on a forum was like using the aliases we use in other parts of life.  My alias servers the same function as "Dad", "Honey" or jacka$$ depending on the situation.   ;D 

My alias helps define me and my outlook to people who don't know me and will most likely, never meet me.  Hopefully "Slowbrew" doesn't make you think I'm a couple lines shy of a complete program but rather that I take my time and patiently produce really good beer.  It also ties into the name I hung on hobby brewery, The Slowly Losing IT Brewery.  Named during a particularly bad time in my career as a way to keep me focused on finding what comes after "IT".

It also keeps my (sometimes) uninformed or not completely thought through rants out of my next job interview.

Paul
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: tomsawyer on November 03, 2011, 09:14:45 AM
Here's my alias story.  I started messing with internet hunting forums, and was worried at the time that some over-zealous PETA members might see fit to come after me.  Paranoid, I know, but beng a novice to the web at the time (quite awhile ago), I thought it better safe than sorry.  After that I just kept using TS and its become sort of a pen name.  Kind of like Mark Twain.  I've often thought of switching to my real name but never seem to get around to it.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: linenoiz on November 03, 2011, 09:50:58 AM
My alias is just as much a part of who I am as my real name. I'm LineNoiz on dozens of places, and have been for over 25 years. I cultivate my online identity as carefully as I would my offline one. I wouldn't want anyone to think "wow, that LineNoiz is a jerk" any more than I would want someone to think "wow, that Paul is a jerk."

Also, I never felt the need to tattoo my real name on anything, unlike my alias, which sits proudly on my arm. Although, I guess I have tattooed my initials on a few trees here and there...
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: weithman5 on November 03, 2011, 09:52:18 AM
, do you take them less seriously?

to be honest, i have trouble taking anyone seriously ;D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: James Lorden on November 03, 2011, 09:53:39 AM
Aside from calling a grown man SiameseMoose, there was no impersonality or other downside to using a handle.


I do think it's goofy when people call up the Brewing Network and use there "screen" name... "Hi this is Butsniffer from the forum..."  It sounds so ridiculous.

I want to go on record as saying that the aliases don't bother me.  

Also want to say that I really appreciate everything that you say on this forum Martin, you are one of my favorite contributors.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: James Lorden on November 03, 2011, 09:55:38 AM
Aside from calling a grown man SiameseMoose, there was no impersonality or other downside to using a handle.


I do think it's goofy when people call up the Brewing Network and use their "screen" name... "Hi this is Butsniffer from the forum..."  It sounds so ridiculous.

I want to go on record as saying that the aliases don't bother me.  

Also want to say that I really appreciate everything that you say on this forum Martin, you are one of my favorite contributors.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: theDarkSide on November 03, 2011, 10:13:06 AM
[I do think it's goofy when people call up the Brewing Network and use there "screen" name... "Hi this is Butsniffer from the forum..."  It sounds so ridiculous.

But that is how we refer to people in the BN Army.  I've run into people at festivals wearing the colors and don't think I ever got their "real" names.  A lot of the BN forum names go along with the personalities of the BN army, so much that we forget what their real names are.  Who the hell would want to talk to Matt...but Blober Glawp is a different story  :D

I think buttsniffer was banned for life...for obvious reasons.  ;D

Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: dcbc on November 03, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
I use the screen name DCBC.  It stands for Dry County Brewing Concern.  I am polite on the internet.  If anyone is interested in my real name, it is Doug.  For our purposes on this forum, I think the backstory on DCBC is a tad more interesting and relevant.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: thirsty on November 03, 2011, 11:58:11 AM
I honestly don't care one way or the other. I don't think someone's behavior on an internet forum will change no matter what name they use to post. Good people are good people and jerks are jerks, no matter what name they use.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 03, 2011, 12:35:19 PM
I started with the alias.  So many people I know were on here, and had identified themselves, I thought why not.  Being retired now, no worries about being called into the boss's office at the big corporation, even though I never used the company computer for the beer stuff.

Since I lived in Germany, I liked the saying "Hopfen und Malz, Gott erhalts".  This can be translatted a few ways as the verb erhalts can several meanings.  The one I like is "Hops and Malt, God provides".

Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Kit B on November 03, 2011, 12:36:19 PM
Well, I just think that an alias is as good as a real name.  A name is just a label.  What matters most is who the person is, the information they bring to the table, the personality they present.  I act the same way on this forum as I do in real life.  It's very easy to say things on the internet that you wouldn't in reality, but I try to think of these forums as if I'm friends with all of you guys and act as if I would if we were all in a room or bar hanging out.  Sometimes I'm crude, sometimes I'm loud, sometimes I'm goofy, sometimes I don't say anything at all.  That wouldn't change if I knew your name or not.  If I met you in person, I'd still connect you with your alias, whether it is your real name or a made up name.  It's just a label.

+1
I am Kit_B, every day of my life.
Every day has its own moods & challenges, but I face every single one as Kit_B.
Ask me for my opinions & thoughts in person, or online...
You'll get the same answers.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: bo on November 03, 2011, 12:39:32 PM
I could list my name at the bottom as John Holmes, but would that make my comments any more credible?
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: maxieboy on November 03, 2011, 01:47:11 PM
Never have given it a thought.

Signed,

****

 ;)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: MrNate on November 03, 2011, 02:23:12 PM
I have worked in SEO. I expect to have to go through a job search again once or twice in my life.

My name is Nate. The "Mr" is just something I added on way back when because I wasn't able to register just "Nate." If you want in on the secret, I'm not that old at all. The salutation isn't necessary for anything other than branding purposes.

And frankly, whether or not you find my ramblings useful, true, or funny based in any way on whether or not you know my last name is of no concern to me. It's not as if I feel I have some great knowledge to impart to the brewing community if only they would take me seriously.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: tschmidlin on November 03, 2011, 03:35:47 PM
I'm LineNoiz on dozens of places
LineNoiz?!  LineNoiz?!

All of this time I've been calling you "Linen Oi! Z" ;D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: tschmidlin on November 03, 2011, 03:46:54 PM
Oh, as far as aliases go, I can see Martin's point for people who are not here a lot.  If you asked a question and got a response from Gordon or Denny, I'm sure it would hold more weight than a post from somerandomguy, unless you hung out on the forum enough to know if somerandomguy knows what he's talking about.

But I can also see the value in protecting your anonymity, if you're worried about it.

I used my real name because I lacked the creativity to come up with something more clever. ;)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: majorvices on November 03, 2011, 03:53:36 PM
I personally don't care one way or the other. If someone acts like a jerk the mods here will take care of it whether we know your real name or not. ;)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: morticaixavier on November 03, 2011, 03:55:13 PM
I personally don't care one way or the other. If someone acts like a jerk the mods here will take care of it whether we know your real name or not. ;)

Oh Yeah? come on if you think your hard enough! I could take you and denny and Drew with one arm tied behind my back!!!! Grrrr. ;D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: majorvices on November 03, 2011, 04:11:04 PM
Yeah, but we have the "lock, delete and ban" buttons.  :P Luckily for all of us most everyone on this forum is top notch A+ users. Makes life easier for all of us, and we appreciate it.  :)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: captain_sousie on November 03, 2011, 04:42:58 PM
The reason I always use an alias on the 'net is because my workplace has an incredibly draconian internet representation/usage policy.  If I am posting under my name and a student/parent finds me posting on a beer forum, I could be dismissed for it.  It could be viewed as promoting alcohol use and when you work with in schools that is generally frowned upon in my neck of the woods.  Crappy reason but one I have to live with if I want to keep working here. 

That said, I try not to be a jerk and like to think I would say what is said here to a person, not just a text box. 

If you're ever in the area of milepost 104 on I80 in Wyoming, feel free to drop me a line and I'd love to meet any of you.

Sou
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Hokerer on November 03, 2011, 04:59:13 PM
I personally don't care one way or the other. If someone acts like a jerk the mods here will take care of it whether we know your real name or not. ;)

Which begs the question:  "Mr. Prosit, what does your middle initial Y. stand for?"  :)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: MrNate on November 03, 2011, 05:54:47 PM
I personally don't care one way or the other. If someone acts like a jerk the mods here will take care of it whether we know your real name or not. ;)

Not true. I'm still here.


Cue banhammer in 3...2...1... ;D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: jamminbrew on November 03, 2011, 06:16:28 PM
So, maybe a dumb question, but if someone is going to act like an ass here, what's to stop them from using a real sounding, but fake name? I could easily put my name out as Mike Geisler, and no one would ever know the difference.  But like many of the posters on this thread, I have always used this handle, it is a part of who I am, not just a facade to hide behind.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: majorvices on November 03, 2011, 06:45:59 PM
I personally don't care one way or the other. If someone acts like a jerk the mods here will take care of it whether we know your real name or not. ;)

Which begs the question:  "Mr. Prosit, what does your middle initial Y. stand for?"  :)

Too Funny!
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: punatic on November 03, 2011, 08:10:21 PM
I personally don't care one way or the other. If someone acts like a jerk the mods here will take care of it whether we know your real name or not. ;)

Which begs the question:  "Mr. Prosit, what does your middle initial Y. stand for?"  :)

Y is the Spanish word for AND. 

Keith is mehrsprachige.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: rabid_dingo on November 03, 2011, 10:13:41 PM
Interesting topic, I followed this same topic at the old NB stomping ground which lead to me putting
my name in my signature line. I have Kroll protecting my identity. PM if you want info...(I know, shameless plug)

But as much as I would like to say that there is no threat because the net is too big, it is more of a "I
am really not that worried about it." situation. You want a back story? You got one...

8 months into my tenure at United Airlines, I took a trip to Australia. My best friend from high school
also went. (I got him hired there too).  So here we are walking down one of the streets in a suburb of Sydney
when a person walks by with a chihuahua on a leash. He jokingly pointed at the diminutive dog and exclaimed,
"Aah! Rabid dingo!"   Back then I thought nothing of it. But then surfing the net and I noticed that websites began
asking for "user names" and not wanting to not follow in the lemming-style using aliases, I thought for a moment
and chose Rabid_Dingo. I have managed to be the 1st on any of the sites I have visited. Only once or twice have
I had to choose a different user name. Oh well..

My dad is a published Organic Chemist and has contributed to more than 40 patents, and several
published papers. So even if I google MY name my dad shows up. Technically I am the 3rd...My
son the 4th...But I didn't add the labels as I remember a friend in school with III in his name and he
got beat up a lot... 8)

I'd like to say my real name is Rusty Shackleford.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: punatic on November 03, 2011, 11:11:28 PM
Rusty Shackleford,  hmmm...  Interesting mental image.  Very nice to meet you formally Rusty.  

Can I still think of you as rabid_dingo?  When I fly from ITO to DEN I was planning to bring pepper spray, not WD 40.    ;D

Technically I am the 3rd...My son the 4th...

My son and me too!

My grandfather was Carl Senior, my dad Carl Junior.  My mom and dad decided that they didn't want me to be "Carl da Turd" so they gave me my middle name after my Uncle Larry.  My wife and I gave our son a Hawaiian middle name, Kai Kane.

People often call my son Carl Jr.  He corrects them, "I'm not junior, my grandfather is.  I'm Carl the 4th."  In response to this, our good friend Diki Short christened him "C4"  My son thinks that is very cool.

Growing up I NEVER intended naming my son Carl.  It was totally my wife's idea.  Twelve years later I cannot imagine him being named anything else (except, perhaps, C4)


(http://www.geocities.ws/lager57/images/saxer.gif)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: theoman on November 04, 2011, 12:38:23 AM
Really? Your friend "Diki Short"? I no longer believe anything you say.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: punatic on November 04, 2011, 12:44:50 AM
Really? Your friend "Diki Short"? I no longer believe anything you say.

Indeed!  The founder, owner, and operator of Short Dick Brewery, Hilo, Hawaii.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: rabid_dingo on November 04, 2011, 02:01:24 AM
Cool...!
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: theDarkSide on November 04, 2011, 05:32:57 AM
Cue banhammer in 3...2...1... ;D

Denny wielding the Ban Hammer!!!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W9NrETN5X_Q/TiBx-ac01MI/AAAAAAAARd0/fhgkvUgiHts/s1600/thorjuly2011.jpg)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Kit B on November 04, 2011, 06:42:08 AM
I'd like to say my real name is Rusty Shackleford.

(http://www.cosc.brocku.ca/~cs07se/pictures/dale-gribble.jpg)

Nice to meet you, Rusty.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: phillamb168 on November 04, 2011, 06:45:03 AM
Cue banhammer in 3...2...1... ;D

Denny wielding the Ban Hammer!!!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W9NrETN5X_Q/TiBx-ac01MI/AAAAAAAARd0/fhgkvUgiHts/s1600/thorjuly2011.jpg)


By the power of grayskull!
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 04, 2011, 07:04:01 AM
Really? Your friend "Diki Short"? I no longer believe anything you say.

Indeed!  The founder, owner, and operator of Short Dick Brewery, Hilo, Hawaii.
Diki has been featured in Zymurgy when he cleaned his brewery (lot of stuff!) and has been active on Tech Talk. 
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Slowbrew on November 04, 2011, 07:31:48 AM
Cue banhammer in 3...2...1... ;D

Denny wielding the Ban Hammer!!!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W9NrETN5X_Q/TiBx-ac01MI/AAAAAAAARd0/fhgkvUgiHts/s1600/thorjuly2011.jpg)


By the power of grayskull!

Why does Denny have 4... ahh... never mind.

Paul
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: ryang on November 04, 2011, 08:58:02 AM
There's a lady in my company whose legitimate name is Kitten... I think she should go by an alias.  It's really hard to take her seriously, when all I can hear while she's talking is purring and meowing.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: dmtaylor on November 04, 2011, 09:02:00 AM
I'm all for identifying one's self on web forums.  I typically call myself Dave because that's what I like to be called, but anyone who cares enough to look into things will quickly figure out that dmtaylor means David M. Taylor from Two Rivers, WI and that I have been posting about homebrewing in various forums for over 10 years.  I see zero reason to hide these facts, and I actually feel more pride than shame or anything.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: skyler on November 04, 2011, 12:18:28 PM
I don't go by aliases much on the internet, but support peoples' freedom to do so. For example, if someone on this forum were from Iran or Saudi Arabia, they could face persecution for producing their own beer... hell, if someone just came from a Mormon family or something, they may not want the whole world to know that they like making beer, and who am I to judge them if they choose to keep something private that I personally choose to publicize?

As for me, my user name is Skyler because that's how my first name is pronounced. Schuyler Alec Campbell, Esq., is my true and full name and title, which I imagine enough people could figure out if they bothered looking into it, but I hate how my first name is spelled, and so I use the easier spelling whenever I have a chance.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: tschmidlin on November 04, 2011, 12:50:24 PM
I hate how my first name is spelled, and so I use the easier spelling whenever I have a chance.
For whatever it's worth (probably not much), I like the way your name is spelled.  I prefer traditional spellings like Sean and Padraig over Shawn and Patrick.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: theDarkSide on November 04, 2011, 12:52:12 PM
As for me, my user name is Skyler because that's how my first name is pronounced. Schuyler Alec Campbell, Esq., is my true and full name and title, which I imagine enough people could figure out if they bothered looking into it, but I hate how my first name is spelled, and so I use the easier spelling whenever I have a chance.

Maybe you could find someone to help you "legally" change your name   ;D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: narvin on November 04, 2011, 12:58:55 PM
I think some people here may also be registered sex offenders.  Not naming any names, but just look at some of these avatars!
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: MrNate on November 07, 2011, 06:47:48 AM
... hell, if someone just came from a Mormon family or something, they may not want the whole world to know that they like making beer, and who am I to judge them if they choose to keep something private that I personally choose to publicize?

You're going fishing with a Mormon. How do you keep him from drinking all your beer?

...Invite a second Mormon.



I come from a Mormon family. Guess who told me this joke?  ;D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: bo on November 07, 2011, 06:50:59 AM
... hell, if someone just came from a Mormon family or something, they may not want the whole world to know that they like making beer, and who am I to judge them if they choose to keep something private that I personally choose to publicize?

You're going fishing with a Mormon. How do you keep him from drinking all your beer?

...Invite a second Mormon.



I come from a Mormon family. Guess who told me this joke?  ;D

I heard that same joke, but Mormon was replaced by Baptist.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: BrewingRover on November 09, 2011, 06:49:48 PM
... hell, if someone just came from a Mormon family or something, they may not want the whole world to know that they like making beer, and who am I to judge them if they choose to keep something private that I personally choose to publicize?

You're going fishing with a Mormon. How do you keep him from drinking all your beer?

...Invite a second Mormon.



I come from a Mormon family. Guess who told me this joke?  ;D

Your Home Teacher?  :P
Guess I gave away my family background there, eh?
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: MrNate on November 10, 2011, 06:34:53 AM
Lol!
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: Hokerer on January 09, 2012, 05:07:58 PM
Interesting recent study of "anonymous" vs "pseudonym" vs "real name" posting data...

http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/09/61-percent-disqus-comments-pseudonyms/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher (http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/09/61-percent-disqus-comments-pseudonyms/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher)
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: garc_mall on January 09, 2012, 06:42:37 PM
I figured since I saw this show up, I would throw in my 2 cents. I use an "alias" on this forum (I put alias in quotes because I would guess most people can figure out my real name) and other forums because of my job (I work in US Army Intelligence). I don't really want everyone on the internet to figure out who I am, because some of them may be interested in finding me for reasons I am not interested. I guard this identity as much as I do my real identity, so I don't feel that I am hiding behind my alias.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: theDarkSide on January 10, 2012, 06:21:23 AM
This guy isn't hiding behind an alias:

http://www.npr.org/templates/archives/archive.php?thingId=103943429&date=1-9-2012&archiveAnchorId=144891556

Maybe I'll legally change my name to "The Dark Side".  :D
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: thetooth on January 10, 2012, 01:41:38 PM
OK... I'll give my 2 cents.  I like using an alias because people are judgmental.  The original poster is a case in point, in that he has already decided that advice from those of us not plastering our real names all over our posts have no valuable information for him.  That sort of blind judgement of me I can do without, so he is free to ignore my posts if he would prefer.

I'm not concerned about him, or any of you... I'm mostly thinking about future employers and whatnot doing a blanket google search on my name and coming up with a bunch of information that they shouldn't be using to paint a picture of who they think I am.

I don't hide my name if asked in PM or whatnot... but I have no interest in attaching it to all of my public online correspondence.
Title: Re: Why hide behind a Alias?
Post by: weazletoe on January 10, 2012, 06:12:19 PM
I go by Weazletoe / Weaze, because that's just me. It's who I am. The guy you see making pantless bacon quotes, is the same guy you'd meet in person. Now I ask you, do I strike you all as more of a Barry, or a Weaze?  ;D