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Title: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: firedog23 on November 08, 2011, 05:08:38 PM
So i am racking my porter to a secondary fermenter tonight. I am putting 4gallons in one fermenter and a separate 1 gallon batch in another.  I am going to dry hop the 1 gallon batch in the name of science.  I plan on using Willamette and no more than an ounce.  The IBUs right now are 25.5 and the projected ABV is 6.3.

Has anyone done this and if so, any comments or thoughts are much appreciated.  If I lose the gallon I am not to unhappy as I will still have 4 gallons in the other container.

Tim
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: morticaixavier on November 08, 2011, 05:22:35 PM
sounds like an interesting experiment. The hops might clash a bit with any roastiness in the porter but who know?

I wouldn't bother with a secondary on the other 4 gallons though. But that's just me
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: blatz on November 08, 2011, 09:12:46 PM
Avery New World Porter is one of a few dryhopped porters that comes to mind - should be good, though 1oz/1gal is pretty aggressive.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: dannyjed on November 08, 2011, 09:14:19 PM
I don't think Williamette hops will clash with the roastiness.  In my experience, I have found that citrusy hops clash with roasted malts and I don't get any citrus flavor from Williamette hops.  
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: firedog23 on November 08, 2011, 09:19:32 PM
Avery New World Porter is one of a few dryhopped porters that comes to mind - should be good, though 1oz/1gal is pretty aggressive.

I was thinking of going with 1/2 an ounce to give it some kick without it being too much.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: pinnah on November 08, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
Avery New World Porter is one of a few dryhopped porters that comes to mind - should be good, though 1oz/1gal is pretty aggressive.

I was thinking of going with 1/2 an ounce to give it some kick without it being too much.

  :) Kick it in the name of science. 

I have not dryhopped with Willamette, but I use a couple ounces real late in my porter. 
IMO, I think the "earthy" thing goes well with porter.   Let us know how it works out.  Science has to be shared.  ;)
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: firedog23 on November 08, 2011, 09:37:56 PM
Avery New World Porter is one of a few dryhopped porters that comes to mind - should be good, though 1oz/1gal is pretty aggressive.

I was thinking of going with 1/2 an ounce to give it some kick without it being too much.

  :) Kick it in the name of science. 

I have not dryhopped with Willamette, but I use a couple ounces real late in my porter. 

IMO, I think the "earthy" thing goes well with porter.   Let us know how it works out.  Science has to be shared.  ;)

Oh I shall report back in December with the first taste, err I mean test...
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: theoman on November 09, 2011, 07:58:55 AM
Sounds like a great idea to me.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on November 09, 2011, 02:09:43 PM
I use Chinook and Columbus for aroma and dry hops in my brown ale and American Stout. Its a great break from the everyday stouts I'm used to at the store/brewpubs. I dry hop with 2oz per 5gal

For the stout - I'll also throw in some Cascade or Centennial (actually a tip gleaned from a GREAT brewpub in town). I don't think it clashes at all.

I say split off a few gallon batches and try different hops, then blend together.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: firedog23 on November 15, 2011, 10:18:16 PM
I held off for a week and I am clearing the beer tonight. Good taste and is more of a strong mild than a porter (minimal hop character). I will still be dry hopping a gallon or so.  The hop choice is wide open, or at least what I have on the shelf.  Maybe a nelson savin from New Zealand.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: beersk on November 16, 2011, 03:18:32 PM
I don't think Williamette hops will clash with the roastiness.  In my experience, I have found that citrusy hops clash with roasted malts and I don't get any citrus flavor from Williamette hops. 
Sierra Nevada Stout uses Chinook.  That's a pretty good stout.  I think dry hopping a porter is a fantastic idea.  It'd almost black IPA-ish in aroma; that is if you used something like Chinook.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: morticaixavier on November 16, 2011, 03:34:57 PM
I don't think Williamette hops will clash with the roastiness.  In my experience, I have found that citrusy hops clash with roasted malts and I don't get any citrus flavor from Williamette hops. 
Sierra Nevada Stout uses Chinook.  That's a pretty good stout.  I think dry hopping a porter is a fantastic idea.  It'd almost black IPA-ish in aroma; that is if you used something like Chinook.

bersk, did you just say Black IPA!!!!
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: beersk on November 16, 2011, 03:56:20 PM
I don't think Williamette hops will clash with the roastiness.  In my experience, I have found that citrusy hops clash with roasted malts and I don't get any citrus flavor from Williamette hops. 
Sierra Nevada Stout uses Chinook.  That's a pretty good stout.  I think dry hopping a porter is a fantastic idea.  It'd almost black IPA-ish in aroma; that is if you used something like Chinook.

bersk, did you just say Black IPA!!!!
Damn it I did.  I gave up.  When one says Black IPA, you know exactly what it refers to.  Whereas American-style black ale sounds silly and forced and you know how I feel about CDA's...haha.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: morticaixavier on November 16, 2011, 03:59:10 PM
I don't think Williamette hops will clash with the roastiness.  In my experience, I have found that citrusy hops clash with roasted malts and I don't get any citrus flavor from Williamette hops. 
Sierra Nevada Stout uses Chinook.  That's a pretty good stout.  I think dry hopping a porter is a fantastic idea.  It'd almost black IPA-ish in aroma; that is if you used something like Chinook.

bersk, did you just say Black IPA!!!!
Damn it I did.  I gave up.  When one says Black IPA, you know exactly what it refers to.  Whereas American-style black ale sounds silly and forced and you know how I feel about CDA's...haha.

I am telling you it's Noonanian Black Ale (NBA). That would never cause any confusion right? "Hey I'm drinking a couple NBA's and watching the ball game. you wanna come over?"
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: beersk on November 16, 2011, 04:02:05 PM
"Noonan!  Nnnnnnnnnnnnoooooonan!!!!" 

"Top notch Danny! Top notch!"
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: firedog23 on November 16, 2011, 09:36:07 PM
Sooooo, I didn't dry hop the porter. I wasn't able make it work but in the end, the porter ended up being an extra stout at 6.8%. Has a nice flavor but is going to need some time to condition.  I need to get another vessel to dry hop.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: dannyjed on November 16, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
 ;D ;D
"Noonan!  Nnnnnnnnnnnnoooooonan!!!!" 

"Top notch Danny! Top notch!"
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: dannyjed on November 16, 2011, 09:44:08 PM
Sooooo, I didn't dry hop the porter. I wasn't able make it work but in the end, the porter ended up being an extra stout at 6.8%. Has a nice flavor but is going to need some time to condition.  I need to get another vessel to dry hop.
You could always try dry hopping in your primary fermenter, maybe after initial fermentation has taken place.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: pinnah on November 17, 2011, 01:07:27 AM
Glad you didn't, after I read you were contemplating the Nelson Sauvin dryhop.
That hop might actually clash.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: firedog23 on November 17, 2011, 02:04:10 PM
Glad you didn't, after I read you were contemplating the Nelson Sauvin dryhop.
That hop might actually clash.

Enjoy!

So am I.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: sailortodd on November 21, 2011, 05:14:27 PM
Definitely going to be making a porter as my first batch when I get back home, and I love the Willamette idea. I'll be dry hopping with some after reading this thread.
Title: Re: Dry hopping a porter
Post by: firedog23 on November 21, 2011, 07:11:56 PM
Definitely going to be making a porter as my first batch when I get back home, and I love the Willamette idea. I'll be dry hopping with some after reading this thread.

Well tell us how it ends up. I wasn't able to make it happen how I wanted so I held back this time. I am happy how the stout turned out and look forward to drinking some in a few weeks and a few months.