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All Grain Brewing / Re: Tree House Brewing Water Profile
« on: November 09, 2017, 03:13:59 AM »
The best water expert on the internet has already replied to this thread.  If he doesn't have an answer you want to hear, then Tree House really does have some magic water there.

Equipment and Software / Re: Acid cleaning draft lines
« on: November 09, 2017, 02:56:20 AM »
Hey, glad to see a lighter tone developing here.  But on the subject of protecting forgetful selves or clueless guests, rather than removing a line, it occurs to me, why not just put a bag over the faucet?  Like the gas station does when a pump is out of order.  Seems simpler, and takes so little effort it hardly seems like a mark of paranoia!

It's ok Robert.  The sign of a good question is one that creates contention.  It's obvious you are capable of handling caustics in a home brewery.  Some people have determined how to do something 'the right way' and can't think about how to do it any other way safely.  You already have.  Way ahead of the curve.  Pretty soon you will be brewing better beer than everyone here except for me.   ;D

Equipment and Software / Re: Acid cleaning draft lines
« on: November 09, 2017, 01:53:52 AM »

I'm kind of betting that frequent cleaning has a similar effect over time to longer less frequent contact.

And wow, you and Stevie need to relax and have a caustic-free beer.

All of my home brews are poured from caustic free lines that were filled with an EXTREMELY DANGEROUS caustic solution for 2-10 days.  The caustic in the line could liquefy a corpse given enough time.  It would take a lot longer than 15 minutes at room temperature and pressure.  Just saying.   :)

Equipment and Software / Re: Acid cleaning draft lines
« on: November 09, 2017, 01:25:50 AM »
How many people remove their line? Never seen that.

Only the least paranoid, most secure and adequately bright homebrew people remove their lines for cleaning.  Perhaps that is why you haven't seen them.  We are a rare breed that aren't easily influenced by the homebrew hive mind.

Protip - the easiest way to do this is to have a spare line.  Just a line with fittings.  Not even an extra keg.  Your drunk guests won't tap a new keg with a line from a utility sink because all the kegs are pouring.  You can always put a note on the caustic line that says drinking from this line will make you wish you were dead, stupid .  You can even use bold red text, if your guests are especially stupid.   :P

Equipment and Software / Re: Acid cleaning draft lines
« on: November 09, 2017, 12:59:34 AM »
This isn’t about the OP. You made a recommendation that many others would determine is unsafe. You and others can do whatever they hell they want, but somebody should point out he stupidity of your recommendation.

Now excuse me while I make toast in the tub.

You take things very personally Steve.  It's clearly hard for you to admit being wrong. 

Simply put, a trained monkey could learn how to move a line full of caustic to a location that would not be tapped for a week.  All I want to know is why you haven't figured out how to do it? 

My recommendation was for people that aren't stupidly paranoid.  Anyone else should reconsider using caustics.   

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Dirty Bastard - Ultimate Scotch Style Ale
« on: November 09, 2017, 12:17:48 AM »
One thing I thought about since pondering this thread is I can't think of a bad beer that a pro brewer made with the designation of Scotch Ale and I've tried many of them.  Not many brewers even try to make a Scotch Ale.  It's a good style.   

Equipment and Software / Re: Clear Beer Draught System - Questions
« on: November 09, 2017, 12:02:42 AM »
Any size keg should work similarly.  Drawing from the top is a good idea.  Have you seen their website, tho?  Very hackable.  Not sure if I want to be a fraud victim for the convenience of not using hop bags in a keg. 

Equipment and Software / Re: Acid cleaning draft lines
« on: November 08, 2017, 11:56:49 PM »
Just pointing out the dangers. First thing I learned in chem lab was to never under any circumstances drink from a piece of lab ware. Even if it is brand new and outside of a lab setting. It’s the same as always assuming a firearm is loaded.

Steve, I understand you are pointing out what should be obvious dangers to most people that can read the back of a bottle of caustic because you are apparently very concerned for their safety. 

In the context of this thread, the OP has proven to be quite capable of searching for MSDS sheets and understanding them.  I'm very confident the OP or his keg tapping guests will not drink Draino from a beer line, even if he lets it in sit in the line for a year and gets Alzheimer's before the line is safely drained.

Before you say, "well I was just saying this for anyone who doesn't know" for the third time, please save your breath.  They probably aren't here and hopefully the improbable minority heard you the first or second time.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Dirty Bastard - Ultimate Scotch Style Ale
« on: November 08, 2017, 11:22:17 PM »
Old Chub is decent.  Maybe a little better than decent, but it uses too much smoked malt for the style depending on who defines it.  It's too thick and it lacks the carefully crafted malt complexity that DB reliably provides.  DB is elegant.  OC isn't.

So far, Great Divide Claymore is the only Scotch Ale I haven't tried mentioned so far.  I can buy it locally and will try it soon.  Thanks.

Ingredients / Re: What makes a good bittering hop?
« on: November 08, 2017, 11:06:29 PM »
I don't buy hops specifically for bittering.  Anything above 9% AA is going to be fine for a 60 minute bittering addition.  Since you have a limited amount of hops you are willing to buy, it makes sense to pick a bittering hop that is useful beyond bittering.  In this case, I suggest Apollo as your versatile bittering hop.  Very high AA.  Good orange and ginger flavor from 20-0.  Strong aroma as a dry hop. 

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: What's Brewing this Weekend?
« on: November 08, 2017, 11:00:08 PM »
I've got a saison planned for this weekend.  I'm going to pitch a blend of 3711 and 3724.

If you have time, try 3711 and Dupont dregs.  The dregs don't even need to be stepped up and you get to drink a bottle of Dupont which contains 3724 and more strains.  The result is good.  No stalls.  3724 flavor with 3711 dryness.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Wyeast 3522 questions
« on: November 08, 2017, 10:56:09 PM »

If you like it, go for it.  I've found I prefer it lower.

Digging further into my notes on 3787, it appears a very clean result IS possible with a big pitch and a stable low 60s fermentation.  Presumably that is what you do. 

Why bother using 3787 to make a Belgian beer if the result is no significant phenols or esters?  Every time I've drunk a Westmalle, clean yeast was not a descriptor that came to mind.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Dirty Bastard - Ultimate Scotch Style Ale
« on: November 08, 2017, 10:23:41 PM »
Traquair is a $7 a pint beer that I can buy all year long.  It's a very good beer that is worth no more than $3 a pint.  However, it's a very un-pragmatic beer that is getting pumped by a preacher of beer pragmatism, ITT.  The linked recipe uses no oak.  Did Traquair stop fermenting in oak?  I doubt it. 

Even if money is not a factor:  Dirty Bastard > Traquair all day long..   

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Aldi's Third Street Brewhouse IPA "Hop Lift"
« on: November 08, 2017, 10:12:23 PM »
Brewed by Cold Springs Brewing in Minnesota.

That brewery makes a few labels for other breweries too.

Firestone Walker did brew for a Trader Joe’s, but they phased that out as their own brands grew. 2014ish.

So Cold Spring rebranded as 3rd st and contract brews for discount retailers?  Good move.  I had the displeasure of trying three Cold Spring Beers and was impressed with how completely awful they were.

Equipment and Software / Re: Acid cleaning draft lines
« on: November 08, 2017, 10:07:59 PM »
I'm aware of the article and read it before you linked it.  The danger of drinking chemicals is a discussion my father and I had when I was 4 years old.  There are millions of home brewers.  How many of them were dumb enough to drink drain cleaner from the tap?     

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