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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Double Bastard
« on: February 15, 2010, 08:59:53 PM »
Just purchased a bottle of 2007 Double Bastard a couple of weeks ago. We are hanging on to it until we get another bottle of 2009 DB so we can taste them side-by-side. I am not sure if the recipe has changed much (if at all).

We did have the Stone 11th Anniversary the other night, and it was a completely different beer. Any hop flavor it originally had, had completely disappeared with age. What was left was a heavy chocolate (slightly smokey) flavor.

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Classifieds / Re: Citra Hop Rhizomes or Plants
« on: February 15, 2010, 08:54:31 PM »
I already posted this under the Ingredients area, where I posed the same question, but here is the answer I received back from the local nursery after they looked into it for me - confirming your answers:

"Sorry to say that the Citra Hop is a patented variety and is unavailable to anyone other than those who are licensed to grow it.  It’s frustrating I know, but like Amarillo, Simcoe, and Summit: Citra is only available as a grown, processed, product."

Thanks again for your help.
-Rob

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Ingredients / Re: Citra Hop Rhizomes or Plants
« on: February 15, 2010, 08:45:44 PM »
"We" was used instead of "I", as I brew with a partner and it was a question we were both looking to have answered. While I cannot answer for "everyone" on these message boards, "we" would be proper in this case.

After having our local nursery check into things for us, they confirmed basically what most here have told us:

"Sorry to say that the Citra Hop is a patented variety and is unavailable to anyone other than those who are licensed to grow it.  It’s frustrating I know, but like Amarillo, Simcoe, and Summit: Citra is only available as a grown, processed, product."

Hopefully this will serve as an answer to anyone else having this question.

-Rob

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Ingredients / Re: Citra Hop Rhizomes or Plants
« on: February 15, 2010, 11:36:33 AM »
Thanks for responding. It all makes sense. For now, I guess I will just have to make sure we stay stocked.    :P

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Classifieds / Re: Citra Hop Rhizomes or Plants
« on: February 14, 2010, 07:57:39 PM »
That would be too bad, it is a great hop. Hopefully it doesn't become one of the varieties which basically dies out due to lack of interest or low popularity as I love the characteristics of it. From what I have read, Sierra Nevada grows it (or at least some of it), but our local brew supply shop receives shipments of whole citra hops in the same 13 lb boxes as the other hops they receive, so I am hoping we are beyond that stage now.

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Classifieds / Citra Hop Rhizomes or Plants
« on: February 14, 2010, 04:15:25 PM »
Looking for either rhizomes or even started (known female) Citra plants. If you have some you would like to sell or know of somewhere I can purchase these, please let me know.

Thanks.

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Ingredients / Citra Hop Rhizomes or Plants
« on: February 14, 2010, 02:55:46 PM »
We have been brewing with citra hops in fairly heavy quantities, and are wondering if anyone knows of anyplace to purchase rhizomes or even started plants which we can order? I am currently checking with a local nursery who sells hops as well, but at the rate we are using Citra hops, I would prefer to cultivate them ourselves as opposed to purchasing them by the ounce.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Re-using commercial pry-off bottles
« on: February 11, 2010, 09:42:42 PM »
I have never personally had any bottles explode on me, and I have been re-using commercial bottles for years for bottle-conditioning. In fact, the only time I have ever even really thought about exploding bottles is when I have made sodas with the kids.

For beer, I have stopped using 12oz bottles though, and switched to the 22oz bottles, which are considerably more heavy duty than 12oz bottles. So my thought is, if you are really worried about it, switch to 22oz bottles.

One might venture to say (depending on the beer style - of course), if you end up with exploding bottles when brewing beer, you may want to take a look at your process (bottling too soon, too much priming sugar etc). You could always take a play from the soda maker's handbook, and refridgerate your bottles once they hit an acceptable level of carbonation - although you will slow to a crawl any further conditioning - if needed.

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