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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 27, 2013, 03:50:12 PM »
I think there's two different scenarios playing out here that need to be addressed separately, namely how many entries the competition can handle (regardless of how many individual entrants there are), and how many people can effectively get into the system to get an entry established.

There are many good reasons why the competition is limited and have been outlined and primarily seems to boil down to available resources, time and money to handle such an event.  You may want to consider allowing a small overage this year as I will comment in a moment.

Getting into the competition is a whole other situation.  Where I am concerned is that the entry system is flawed and whether someone had 1 or 15 entries, they may not have the same opportunity to enter this year.  From the current comments on the entry site pages "Unpaid entries in judge centers that have reached the capacity limit for paid entries will be reassigned to an alternate region" and " Rest assured that all currently registered entries will have an opportunity to be judged in the competition." So, are those folks that registered over the available amounts going to replace the available spots in other regions that were not full?  I was in the midst of entering my information, but not to the point of getting a beer entered when entries were shut down by the AHA.  So who gets to enter at that location now, someone who through no fault of his own was able to enter above and beyond the capacity of a location, or someone who was unable to complete registration not because a site was full, but because it was determined to suspend entries? I don't buy the argument in this situation to get online earlier and enter earlier in the day, otherwise you should make the entry period from 1-4pm regardless.  Oh, did I mention that the email with the link to the entry sites didn't hit my inbox until 5PM?  I didn't personally have info to register until hours into it, and my primary location was overbooked but felt fortunate to get into another one.  This registration was flawed from the beginning.

  Some posts have promoted or countered the concept of a lottery.  How is the current system so different from a lottery?   How many people hit F5 hoping to "get picked" so to speak to get into the server?  How about those folks who punched their ticket by being able to register above the available spots in their region now taking spots from other regions?  Luck of the draw for those who got in and registered above a regions availability, bad luck for those in available regions who now lose their spots in that lottery.

I surely don't know how to fix that, but will feel like I won my own personal Ninkasi if I manage to get an entry in this year.  Obviously, this will not be a year where anyone can win - those who were lucky enough to bypass entry limits have a edge over others who otherwise would have got an entry in.  In essence, some of us are already winning an unofficial lottery to get in, so would that be a terribly bad way to do this?  At least it would be an open lottery, and not closed to the luck few who got picked by the fortune of getting in at the right time.

If the judging sites can handle a few extra entries, a feasible solution to the overage would be to allow the regions fill naturally when the sites are reopened, then redistribute the entries that got in over a region's allotted amount.  That will make this years competition go over the 8250 mark, probably add what 50 or so beers to each judging site, but would solve the dilemma how to keep those in that over registered in say NY because of technicalities, but not punish those entering in say WI where there was still room because the AHA shut the site down early.


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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 27, 2013, 09:39:12 AM »
There were obviously issues abound with the registration, hence the need to suspend it after just a few hours. I am certain those in the know of everything that occurred will come to reasonable solutions in the future.

I for one also took time out off of work to ensure I was able to get my beers entered.  Not sure if any else had my experience, but the email with the links never made it into my inbox until after 5pm.  By that time, I had already found the posting from Janis with the links, but late enough that the two closest sites to me were already over booked, but in enough time to get into a third.  Unfortunately, I got as far as entering me into the system and they suspended registration before I got any beers entered.  So now I am kinda in, but no guarantees - if the system comes back up while I am at work because I can't take the whole week off, guess I am out even though I planned time off to get in.

I am sure the 15 limit came after much debate and by looking at the number of entrants/entry over the past years is way above what the average brewer is submitting.

Over the past several years, I have tried some different strategies on my way to "fame and glory" of winning in the NHC.  Best I've done is to win in the first round, but never the second.  My excitement this year being that the finals are in my back yard had me double the amount of entries I wanted in compared to the past.  To help my chances, what I have done was to enter as many of the beers into recent, local contests and planned on submitting those entries that had either won in those contests, or scored 38 or better in categories that were flooded with entries but didn't win.  My theory is, I am upping my game in the NHC and giving myself the best opportunity to get as many of my entries to the second round as possible.  So, one suggestion to help improve the quality at the grand poobah of contests may be to require entries to the first round have placed top 3 in category at an AHA/BJCP sanctioned contest in the year prior to the NHC it is to be entered.  This may alter the number of entries or brewers, or not, but would up the ante.

If the issue is system overload, pre-registration could simply be get your personal info loaded and number of entries you have to submit and then get a voucher from the system to get people into and out of the it quickly and efficiently.  Then, following the pre-registration period, which could be pared down from a week to a couple days, or not, provide a couple day window for folks to enter the particulars of their entries and pay.  Once the voucher expires, it is forfeited and can go back to general enrollment based on first come/first served if there are spots available at the site you are registered for.  You can limit the vouchers per entrant at any number, you would allow time for people to get all their intended entries in based on first in/first out for the pre-registration (i.e. remove the complaint that I can't type fast enough or the system didn't process fast enough for me to get all my entries in), and like now, if you don't pay, you are out and others can get back in and possibly enter all the beers they want.

If all of this was already considered or tried in the past, I apologize for redundancy, there are a lot of folks with much higher brain function than me that will figure this out!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: help motorizing grain mill
« on: February 18, 2013, 07:52:10 PM »
Well, apparently the one I have was ultimately built by POS.  Slowed it down and was able to stop it from spinning by grabbing it lightly with my fingers.  Don't think it would stack up against the grain.  Found a good deal on a 1/2 hp 1725 rpm motor that I'll hook up with pulley's.

Thanks for the help, the links were useful and got me pointed in the right direction.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: help motorizing grain mill
« on: February 17, 2013, 09:18:33 AM »
it's a barley crusher 2 roller.

Been using a drill and works fine, albeit from the mention of RPM being in the 100-200 range, assuming that is going fast as well. I have always wanted to have something dedicated and finally have the space for a dedicated brewery and can knock this off the wish list then.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: help motorizing grain mill
« on: February 16, 2013, 07:08:34 PM »
Thanks, appreciate the link too.

Motor I have is variable speed, any easy way to determine it's speed that I could just set it? 

Although after reading through the link, I am wondering if this little motor will be up to the task anyway.

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General Homebrew Discussion / help motorizing grain mill
« on: February 16, 2013, 02:42:06 PM »
Want to motorize my grain mill.  Probably overthinking it at this point, but am trying to figure out the best way to do this.

Motor I have is Power Craft Pro cs-103A. It's a mini bench grinder I've had laying around forever and also sells under name TruPower PowerKraft, Neiko.  It's variable speed to 10,000 RPM 115v with 120w output. Want to run my mill at under 500 rpm.  Is there any easy way to determine the actual RPM it is putting out if I were to direct connect it to my mill so I know I am not running it too fast?  If I were to run it with pulley/sheaves I am racking my brain trying to figure out the right ratio.

I just want to keep it simple!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: thoughts on good RO system?
« on: February 16, 2013, 02:30:33 PM »
I have a puromax system.  Had the same unit in two different houses now.  Was affordable, and reliable, but have no other reference.  Only complaint I have on it is that it only has a 1g tank and takes a while to replenish.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st round NHC results
« on: May 01, 2012, 01:24:16 PM »
Got my Philly sheets too.  Got a 40 in SHV for a Kona Oatmeal Stout and advanced to mBOS.  No place awarded so assuming I am not advancing.  Still happy with the score and it's consistency.  Got same score for same beer in local contest and won 1st there so was hoping for advancement, but the NHC is obviously the next level.

In regards to the entry debate.  Looking at the number of entries per entrants over the past 4 years as listed on the website, there's an average of 4 beers per entrant over that time.  So obviously for every person entering 30+ beers, there's many entering just one.  Seems like the easiest way to increase individual entrants is the idea of limiting entrants initially, but allowing additional beers to be added after a certain time period.  You're still going to have the same amount of entries with a cap per region, but at least this will give additional time for those not readily available to log on a chance to get in.

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