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Ingredients / Re: Brewtan B
« on: September 30, 2016, 03:25:16 PM »
Joe's interview will be on Episode 25 coming out on 10/12.  When we get the results of our experiment, he'll be back to discuss them.

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Ingredients / Re: Brewtan B
« on: September 30, 2016, 12:50:41 PM »
Sorry man, but nobody here is going to believe that you know what "it" is or that your friend can make "it" without research papers, backup data and triangle test.
On a different note, 30 min protein rest.

What if he types up his conclusions in a manner that makes it look like it was published in a peer-reviewed journal and insists he has data but doesn't publish it? Or does he need vague cites to actual research for the trifecta?
Anyone can write a paper that looks scientific...

https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/archive/scigen/
Maybe.. but when you actually try what said paper is talking about and it works, there's a very good chance it's legit.

or that it's confirmation bias.

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Ingredients / Re: Brewtan B
« on: September 30, 2016, 10:26:26 AM »
And wasn't that before dosage rates were correct as well?

Sure was.  When I mentioned it to Joe he said it ought to help anyway and it seemed to.  We're interviewing him for the podcast in about 3 hours.

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Ingredients / Re: Brewtan B
« on: September 30, 2016, 09:45:42 AM »
Or wait until the experiment is concluded to see if it's all just confirmation bias and magic fairy dust.

THIS^^^^  Like I said in the last podcast, I've actually been wrong before....



I'm looking forward to the results, regardless. I haven't done my double batch yet (hoping to do it fairly soon, an APA with some of Ted H's hops) to see what people notice or don't. I notice improvement but that's anecdotal at this point. I've been wrong before.

The back to back batches I did were markedly different.  But that's only a single test so I'm not drawing any definitive conclusions from it.

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Ingredients / Re: Brewtan B
« on: September 30, 2016, 09:28:08 AM »
Or wait until the experiment is concluded to see if it's all just confirmation bias and magic fairy dust.

THIS^^^^  Like I said in the last podcast, I've actually been wrong before....

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Ingredients / Re: Brewtan B
« on: September 30, 2016, 08:59:06 AM »
Apparently I have somehow been entirely ignorant and perhaps noticeably absent regarding all this talk about deoxygenated water and Brewtan, etc.

Until today.  Today I wasted hours reading up on all this sh!t.  And that is my tentative conclusion: it is sh!t.

The pseudo science and recommended practice of a 30 minute protein rest killed it for me, not to mention that a friend of mine can achieve "it" with a single infusion and nothing special other than using continental malt, hops, and the right yeast.

Yes, I know what "it" is, and I love and crave "it".  I think maybe I even can get close to "it" in my own beers.  However this all also leads me to believe that there's little if any need to futz with this secretive fake sciency LODO and Brewtan stuff.

I will let you guys run these experiments while I continue to play with "regular" decoction and efficiency.  Results coming soon/eventually on my triangles.

Dave, I'm 99% certain Brewtan improved my beers with minimal effort.  That's why we have 15 brewers lined up to do an experiment with it.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: How long is your brew day?
« on: September 30, 2016, 08:57:31 AM »
I had a 7 hour lauter the other day on a Rye Imperial Stout .... oh lort! It sucked!

Something makes me think your batch sizes are a bit bigger than pours!

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Equipment and Software / Re: Brew Guru App.
« on: September 29, 2016, 01:02:11 PM »
Does anyone know how the Deals Used function under profile works? Or the started/completed collections? I show 0 deals used, but I have used my AHA deals numerous times this year. Is this a future capability?

I bet it only tracks deals used with the app.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Three brews today
« on: September 29, 2016, 10:32:59 AM »
Whoa!  Good on ya!  2 in a day is my record and I don't do that often!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: bjcp scoring question
« on: September 29, 2016, 09:05:43 AM »
I'll say the magic word again that pisses some people off:

Crapshoot.

If you don't realize that going in, then you shouldn't be entering.  And it's usually not that bad.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Brew Guru App.
« on: September 29, 2016, 09:05:01 AM »
My AHA membership has been expired since July (I'm still unemployed).  But I asked for and got a gift card for my birthday yesterday, with which I have now renewed my membership.  The app is still showing it expired, and there does not appear to be a way to update it apart from buying another year. 

Any fix besides waiting?

Steve, contact either Matt or Duncan @brewersassociation.org

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Yeah, that's gonna be cheap....

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I used popcorn many years ago.  It worked pretty well as I recall.  You need to use a large grocery bag full IIRC to equal the weight of unpopped.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: bjcp scoring question
« on: September 29, 2016, 08:59:55 AM »
Training to be a non-BJCP judge, I have a question about scoring homebrews in the BJCP system: say homebrew X gets scored M in round one, and homebrew Y gets scored N in round one, and M is higher than N. And then X and Y are compared in round two, and Y is deemed "better" than X. Is the score of Y adapted to make it higher than X?

Or do things work in a completely different way?

Usually not.  The second round is the second round and what happened in the first round is past.  I'm not saying your scenario doesn't happen, but I don't recall ever seeing it.  Now, within the the same round a beer's score may change relative to toher beers.  But I don't think I've ever seen it happen in different rounds.

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Ingredients / Re: Too much caramel malt
« on: September 28, 2016, 02:03:01 PM »
One needs to consider the final beer character and how to get there. The Crystal Police always say no more than 5%. I think that comes from IPA, where the sweetness and dark fruit of some crystal clash with the hops. I did a dark Czech lager for NHC. I did get some criticism from the masses, more on how the accent on Lezak should have had the upside down carrot. Some had studied in the Czech Republic, so they knew the language. Then I would ask about the beer, and they would say it was really representative. It had 15% Weyeramann Carabohemian. I had that style of beer, a Kozel at the PU brewery, and I said dang that beer was really close!

Think about the final beer, the ingredients, and the process that will get you there.

Wise words.

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